" shuma gorath is officialy an elder god, demogorge eats elders gods, right? so who wins? "
He is not officially an Elder God. The Elder Gods were the first generation of Earth's gods. Shuma-Gorath is an extradimensional demon whose origins have nothing to do with the earth. He makes the Elder Gods look like chumps.
" shuma gorath is officialy an elder god, demogorge eats elders gods, right? so who wins? "
He is not officially an Elder God. The Elder Gods were the first generation of Earth's gods. Shuma-Gorath is an extradimensional demon whose origins have nothing to do with the earth. He makes the Elder Gods look like chumps. "
wel, im not an expert about these entities, i just wanna see the debate, but i read all Elder Gods except for Gaia, Cthon and Set were destroyed by the Demigorge million of years before the birth of humankind
i see Set, Chthon, Crom, nightmare and shuma they are elder gods "
And I also see D'Spayre on the upper left corner and the Dweller in Darkness on the lower right. They are Fear Lords along with Nightmare who is not an Elder God.
" shuma gorath is officialy an elder god, demogorge eats elders gods, right? so who wins? "
He is not officially an Elder God. The Elder Gods were the first generation of Earth's gods. Shuma-Gorath is an extradimensional demon whose origins have nothing to do with the earth. He makes the Elder Gods look like chumps. "
wel, im not an expert about these entities, i just wanna see the debate, but i read all Elder Gods except for Gaia, Cthon and Set were destroyed by the Demigorge million of years before the birth of humankind
i see Set, Chthon, Crom, nightmare and shumathey are elder gods "
Shuma Gorath is known as 'The Ancient One'. He is older than the Elder Gods. Also, he is trans-extradiminsional meaning there is only one Shuma Gorath that interacts with all of the realities in Marvel. Elder Gods have one per each name per different reality for example Elder God Gaea in the reality of 616 , 1610, 811, 295, 110 etc etc... One Shuma Gorath can exist in all of these realities at once.
The picture above also illustrates D'Sparye & Nighmare who are weaker than considered fear lords.
Shuma Gorath is equal to the Marvel Principality Extra Dimensional Deities like Raggadorr, Cyttorak and Seraphim, but one would argue the Shuma is even more powerful than they are...
Think about how hard it was for Mikaboshi to deal with Domogorge. He needed prep to catch it off guard before he could absorb it. Shuma can blink Demogorge out of every reality at once if it needed be.
Shuma Gorath could handle Thanos with Infinite Gauntlet pretty well too. (Shuma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Hunger)
SHuma does not exssit in every reality. there is no proof there is only one Shuma. there is only one seth, on Chthon etc. Shuma has never proven himself More powerful then Multi eternitey. Shuma has never proven himself more Powerful than the Hunger.
Because Hunger is the non magical version of of Shuma. Hunger lives through devouring realities, but unlike Shuma, his powers are not stackable. So even if Hunger devourers 100 universes, he would still be as powerful as a full feed Galactus. In contrary to Shuma Gorath, when Shuma devours more than one reality, he becomes trans-infinite and his powers stack like Protege.
Because Hunger is the non magical version of of Shuma. Hunger lives through devouring realities, but unlike Shuma, his powers are not stackable. So even if Hunger devourers 100 universes, he would still be as powerful as a full feed Galactus. In contrary to Shuma Gorath, when Shuma devours more than one reality, he becomes trans-infinite and his powers stack like Protege. "
Where did you get that from ? Galactus can't be fully fed. I've never seen Shuma devouring a reality, all it was a narration that he is a ruler of some dimensions. And that is probably because there was no one to oppose him and drive him back. While Strange opposed him and saved mainstream continuity.
" @Cypher's Gambit: SHuma does not exssit in every reality. there is no proof there is only one Shuma. there is only one seth, on Chthon etc. Shuma has never proven himself More powerful then Multi eternitey. Shuma has never proven himself more Powerful than the Hunger. it's actually more like Shuma=Chthon. and the Demogre is more powerful than Chthon. "
There is proof. Read Strange Tales. Shuma Devoured hundreds of realities similar to 616. He killed Dr. Strange thousands of time per reality and different time periods multiple times before. Shuma is trans-infinite and he existed in every reality before Genesis sealed him.
Shuma Gorath is waaaaay more powerful than Cthon, it's not even remotely close to being equal. Cthon is probably in par with Dormammu, but Dormammu worships Shuma Gorath.
Dormammu is a devote to the Principalities aka Cyttorak, Raggadorr, Seraphim, etc... Cyttorak is prabably = Shuma which in turns Cytorrak & Shuma are >>>>>> Chthon by a long shot.
Did you even know that Demogorge can barely beat Set???? Set was the only Elder God that Demogorge could not eat, but had to push him away. And Chthon, just runs and hides.
Shuma wins by feats of devouring hundreds of realities which Demogorge is a part of
" @Cypher's Gambit: SHuma does not exssit in every reality. there is no proof there is only one Shuma. there is only one seth, on Chthon etc. Shuma has never proven himself More powerful then Multi eternitey. Shuma has never proven himself more Powerful than the Hunger. it's actually more like Shuma=Chthon. and the Demogre is more powerful than Chthon. "
There is proof. Read Strange Tales. Shuma Devoured hundreds of realities similar to 616. He killed Dr. Strange thousands of time per reality and different time periods multiple times before. Shuma is trans-infinite and he existed in every reality before Genesis sealed him. Shuma Gorath is waaaaay more powerful than Cthon, it's not even remotely close to being equal. Cthon is probably in par with Dormammu, but Dormammu worships Shuma Gorath. Dormammu is a devote to the Principalities aka Cyttorak, Raggadorr, Seraphim, etc... Cyttorak is prabably = Shuma which in turns Cytorrak & Shuma are >>>>>> Chthon by a long shot. Did you even know that Demogorge can barely beat Set???? Set was the only Elder God that Demogorge could not eat, but had to push him away. And Chthon, just runs and hides. Shuma wins by feats of devouring hundreds of realities which Demogorge is a part of "
devouring hundreds of realities doesn't prove that. Dormamu envokes Chthon too and eternitey considers dormamu nothing to him. but admits that he would fall if Chthon ever re-entered the universe. Chthon>>>>>>>>>>>Dormmamu Set fled there first fight as well. the Hunger has also devoured thousands of realitys. if there is only one set one Gaea and One Chthon it stands to reason that there may only be one demogre too.
do you have a scan of Shuma devouring a reality or creating a universe as you've also claimed he has done? or something that puts him above multi eternitey.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
No I'm not exactly saying that but he could be. Definetly not multi eternitey though. "
Hmm... Strange things happen over the years, now gods are > abstracts, Chaos War is just beyond my comprehension. "
well think about it.
Eternitey is a universe. There are planety of Gods, Demons and extra dimensional being who are capable of Destroying entire universes, enslaving them, devouring them etc..
and Herc with Gaea's power re created 98% of the multiverse. which consists of nearly infinite universes so that would mean Hercules was recreating universal eteriteys. just not the multiversal one.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
No I'm not exactly saying that but he could be. Definetly not multi eternitey though. "
Hmm... Strange things happen over the years, now gods are > abstracts, Chaos War is just beyond my comprehension. "
Fully agree. But there is one user here (lord_or something, I don't remember his whole name), who already was posting scnas that proves that Elder Gods are multiversal. That is the point of Cyttorak and The Vishanti being multiversal too. They were for example able to summon LT.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
No I'm not exactly saying that but he could be. Definetly not multi eternitey though. "
Hmm... Strange things happen over the years, now gods are > abstracts, Chaos War is just beyond my comprehension. "
Fully agree. But there is one user here (lord_or something, I don't remember his whole name), who already was posting scnas that proves that Elder Gods are multiversal. That is the point of Cyttorak and The Vishanti being multiversal too. They were for example able to summon LT. "
that makes sense since one of the Vishanti is an elder goddess and one of the others is half Elder god.
" @Cypher's Gambit: SHuma does not exssit in every reality. there is no proof there is only one Shuma. there is only one seth, on Chthon etc. Shuma has never proven himself More powerful then Multi eternitey. Shuma has never proven himself more Powerful than the Hunger. it's actually more like Shuma=Chthon. and the Demogre is more powerful than Chthon. "
There is proof. Read Strange Tales. Shuma Devoured hundreds of realities similar to 616. He killed Dr. Strange thousands of time per reality and different time periods multiple times before. Shuma is trans-infinite and he existed in every reality before Genesis sealed him. Shuma Gorath is waaaaay more powerful than Cthon, it's not even remotely close to being equal. Cthon is probably in par with Dormammu, but Dormammu worships Shuma Gorath. Dormammu is a devote to the Principalities aka Cyttorak, Raggadorr, Seraphim, etc... Cyttorak is prabably = Shuma which in turns Cytorrak & Shuma are >>>>>> Chthon by a long shot. Did you even know that Demogorge can barely beat Set???? Set was the only Elder God that Demogorge could not eat, but had to push him away. And Chthon, just runs and hides. Shuma wins by feats of devouring hundreds of realities which Demogorge is a part of "
devouring hundreds of realities doesn't prove that. Dormamu envokes Chthon too and eternitey considers dormamu nothing to him. but admits that he would fall if Chthon ever re-entered the universe. Chthon>>>>>>>>>>>Dormmamu Set fled there first fight as well. the Hunger has also devoured thousands of realitys. if there is only one set one Gaea and One Chthon it stands to reason that there may only be one demogre too. do you have a scan of Shuma devouring a reality or creating a universe as you've also claimed he has done? or something that puts him above multi eternitey. "
Shuma is above Multi-Eternity because he continues to devour Eternity every time he enters a realm. Shuma doesn't have a mouth so it doesn't show him literally taking bites of reality. It just absorbs within in while he is present. In the Strange Tale arcs. The Living Tribunal was locked out from saving Eternity 616 of Multi-Eternity and the rest of the other universes it already consumed. All the cosmic order failed to stop Shuma since they were already consumed. But Shuma wanted to play with Earth because he remembers Dr. Strange and wanted to torture him alittle bit completely devouring 616. Turned Earth into a voodoo doll and started poking at it. After Strange defeated Shuma Gorath and turned everything back to normal, The Living Tribunal was in fear that Dr. Strange has become too powerful and had to be stopped. The Living Tribunal's attempts failed, but Dr. Strange later lost most of his powers after the War of the Principalities 7 Spheres. So if a Shuma merged Strange can ignore Living Tribunal and his attempts to stop Strange with no consequence then what makes of Chthon more powerful than Shuma?
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
No I'm not exactly saying that but he could be. Definetly not multi eternitey though. "
Hmm... Strange things happen over the years, now gods are > abstracts, Chaos War is just beyond my comprehension. "
Fully agree. But there is one user here (lord_or something, I don't remember his whole name), who already was posting scnas that proves that Elder Gods are multiversal. That is the point of Cyttorak and The Vishanti being multiversal too. They were for example able to summon LT. "
that makes sense since one of the Vishanti is an elder goddess and one of the others is half Elder god. "
Mostly, yes, but there are still accidents like Galactus winning with Agamotto. Or Sise-Neg banishing Shuma Gorath with remaking Universe.
" @Cypher's Gambit: SHuma does not exssit in every reality. there is no proof there is only one Shuma. there is only one seth, on Chthon etc. Shuma has never proven himself More powerful then Multi eternitey. Shuma has never proven himself more Powerful than the Hunger. it's actually more like Shuma=Chthon. and the Demogre is more powerful than Chthon. "
There is proof. Read Strange Tales. Shuma Devoured hundreds of realities similar to 616. He killed Dr. Strange thousands of time per reality and different time periods multiple times before. Shuma is trans-infinite and he existed in every reality before Genesis sealed him. Shuma Gorath is waaaaay more powerful than Cthon, it's not even remotely close to being equal. Cthon is probably in par with Dormammu, but Dormammu worships Shuma Gorath. Dormammu is a devote to the Principalities aka Cyttorak, Raggadorr, Seraphim, etc... Cyttorak is prabably = Shuma which in turns Cytorrak & Shuma are >>>>>> Chthon by a long shot. Did you even know that Demogorge can barely beat Set???? Set was the only Elder God that Demogorge could not eat, but had to push him away. And Chthon, just runs and hides. Shuma wins by feats of devouring hundreds of realities which Demogorge is a part of "
devouring hundreds of realities doesn't prove that. Dormamu envokes Chthon too and eternitey considers dormamu nothing to him. but admits that he would fall if Chthon ever re-entered the universe. Chthon>>>>>>>>>>>Dormmamu Set fled there first fight as well. the Hunger has also devoured thousands of realitys. if there is only one set one Gaea and One Chthon it stands to reason that there may only be one demogre too. do you have a scan of Shuma devouring a reality or creating a universe as you've also claimed he has done? or something that puts him above multi eternitey. "
Shuma is above Multi-Eternity because he continues to devour Eternity every time he enters a realm. Shuma doesn't have a mouth so it doesn't show him literally taking bites of reality. It just absorbs within in while he is present. In the Strange Tale arcs. The Living Tribunal was locked out from saving Eternity 616 of Multi-Eternity and the rest of the other universes it already consumed. All the cosmic order failed to stop Shuma since they were already consumed. But Shuma wanted to play with Earth because he remembers Dr. Strange and wanted to torture him alittle bit completely devouring 616. Turned Earth into a voodoo doll and started poking at it. After Strange defeated Shuma Gorath and turned everything back to normal, The Living Tribunal was in fear that Dr. Strange has become too powerful and had to be stopped. The Living Tribunal's attempts failed, but Dr. Strange later lost most of his powers after the War of the Principalities 7 Spheres. So if a Shuma merged Strange can ignore Living Tribunal and his attempts to stop Strange with no consequence then what makes of Chthon more powerful than Shuma? "
consuming realitys(if he's even done that) doesn't put him above multi eteritey. do you have scans of this? how does strange stop someone who you claim the LT can't?
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
No I'm not exactly saying that but he could be. Definetly not multi eternitey though. "
Hmm... Strange things happen over the years, now gods are > abstracts, Chaos War is just beyond my comprehension. "
Fully agree. But there is one user here (lord_or something, I don't remember his whole name), who already was posting scnas that proves that Elder Gods are multiversal. That is the point of Cyttorak and The Vishanti being multiversal too. They were for example able to summon LT. "
that makes sense since one of the Vishanti is an elder goddess and one of the others is half Elder god. "
Mostly, yes, but there are still accidents like Galactus winning with Agamotto. Or Sise-Neg banishing Shuma Gorath with remaking Universe. "
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
No I'm not exactly saying that but he could be. Definetly not multi eternitey though. "
Hmm... Strange things happen over the years, now gods are > abstracts, Chaos War is just beyond my comprehension. "
Fully agree. But there is one user here (lord_or something, I don't remember his whole name), who already was posting scnas that proves that Elder Gods are multiversal. That is the point of Cyttorak and The Vishanti being multiversal too. They were for example able to summon LT. "
that makes sense since one of the Vishanti is an elder goddess and one of the others is half Elder god. "
Hoggorth was a Principality while Ostur was an Elder God. Agamotto is half Principality and half Elder God. It was Ostur that formed the name Vishiani, but before then, Hoggorth was basically her mentor.
Oh, and one other thing, Agamotto defeated Set pretty easily by sealing him inside the Eye. In comparison to Demogorge vs Set; Set gave Demogorge a long fight. This basically means that the Vishianti are > Elder Gods like Set so that means the Vishani are more powerful than Demogorge....
However... The Vishianti are simply no match for Shuma Gorath whatsoever....
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
No I'm not exactly saying that but he could be. Definetly not multi eternitey though. "
Hmm... Strange things happen over the years, now gods are > abstracts, Chaos War is just beyond my comprehension. "
Fully agree. But there is one user here (lord_or something, I don't remember his whole name), who already was posting scnas that proves that Elder Gods are multiversal. That is the point of Cyttorak and The Vishanti being multiversal too. They were for example able to summon LT. "
that makes sense since one of the Vishanti is an elder goddess and one of the others is half Elder god. "
Mostly, yes, but there are still accidents like Galactus winning with Agamotto. Or Sise-Neg banishing Shuma Gorath with remaking Universe. "
Galactus would have lost if it were not for Hoggorth and Ostur telling Agamotto to let Galactus go.
" @Cypher's Gambit:Scans of Set vs Demogorge please. "
I can only find one right now. But Demogorge almost lost if not having to BFR Set.
"
One scan ? That's not a battle and Demogorge doesn't seem to lose here. "
Demogorge didn't loose. He was leading Set somewhere. But after the fight, Demogorge was severely injured that he reverted back to Atum and had to merge with the Sun to stay alive.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
no is not. he is still a fraction of multi etermitey,
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
no is not. he is still a fraction of multi etermitey, "
616 Eternity and Multi-Eternity are the same thing.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
Correct. "
No, MultiEterinty is being combined of all Eternities from whole Multiverse. That is why SG isn't above it. Multi-Abstracts can exist as a whole being only if there is a threat who must be defeated. Like Abraxas. Abraxas is pretty much multi-abstract, who is a threat to Multi-Eternity. To defeat Multi-Eternity, You have to destroy whole Multiverse.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
no is not. he is still a fraction of multi etermitey, "
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
Correct. "
No, MultiEterinty is being combined of all Eternities from whole Multiverse. That is why SG isn't above it. Multi-Abstracts can exist as a whole being only if there is a threat who must be defeated. Like Abraxas. Abraxas is pretty much multi-abstract, who is a threat to Multi-Eternity. To defeat Multi-Eternity, You have to destroy whole Multiverse. "
To destroy the whole multiverse you have to destroy 616.
" shuma gorath is officialy an elder god, demogorge eats elders gods, right? so who wins? "
He is not officially an Elder God. The Elder Gods were the first generation of Earth's gods. Shuma-Gorath is an extradimensional demon whose origins have nothing to do with the earth. He makes the Elder Gods look like chumps. "
wel, im not an expert about these entities, i just wanna see the debate, but i read all Elder Gods except for Gaia, Cthon and Set were destroyed by the Demigorge million of years before the birth of humankind
i see Set, Chthon, Crom, nightmare and shumathey are elder gods "
Shuma Gorath is known as 'The Ancient One'. He is older than the Elder Gods. Also, he is trans-extradiminsional meaning there is only one Shuma Gorath that interacts with all of the realities in Marvel. Elder Gods have one per each name per different reality for example Elder God Gaea in the reality of 616 , 1610, 811, 295, 110 etc etc... One Shuma Gorath can exist in all of these realities at once. The picture above also illustrates D'Sparye & Nighmare who are weaker than considered fear lords. Shuma Gorath >>> Multi-Eternity >>> Eternity > Elder Gods > Fear Lords > Sky Fathers > Hell Lords Shuma Gorath is equal to the Marvel Principality Extra Dimensional Deities like Raggadorr, Cyttorak and Seraphim, but one would argue the Shuma is even more powerful than they are... Shuma Gorath > Marvel Principality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demogorge/Atum Think about how hard it was for Mikaboshi to deal with Domogorge. He needed prep to catch it off guard before he could absorb it. Shuma can blink Demogorge out of every reality at once if it needed be. Shuma Gorath could handle Thanos with Infinite Gauntlet pretty well too. (Shuma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Hunger) "
Prove to me that Shuma is a megaversal entity
@Thor's hammmer said:
"@Cypher's Gambit: SHuma does not exssit in every reality. there is no proof there is only one Shuma. there is only one seth, on Chthon etc. Shuma has never proven himself More powerful then Multi eternitey. Shuma has never proven himself more Powerful than the Hunger. it's actually more like Shuma=Chthon. and the Demogre is more powerful than Chthon. "
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
Correct. "
No, MultiEterinty is being combined of all Eternities from whole Multiverse. That is why SG isn't above it. Multi-Abstracts can exist as a whole being only if there is a threat who must be defeated. Like Abraxas. Abraxas is pretty much multi-abstract, who is a threat to Multi-Eternity. To defeat Multi-Eternity, You have to destroy whole Multiverse. "
Multi-Eternity was a nickname given to 616 Eternity by Captain Universe so he could describe 616 Eternity in his totality. There are tons of proof to back up that 616 Eternity and Multi-Eternity are the same thing, such as:
Uatu stating that 616 Eternity's death would mean the death of all universes immediately afterward.
616 Eternity appeared in front of Doctor Strange holding multiple universes in one hand
Dormammu stating in the Defenders that 616 Eternity had the power to recreate all universes
And anyway on the very same page Captain Universe calls 616 Eternity "Multi Eternity" he refers to him simply as Eternity right afterward on the exact same page. Also, just to be clear, 616 Eternity is not the entire multiverse itself, rather it's the core of the multiverse.
" @Thor's hammmer:Wait... so Demogorge > Eternity now ? "
Demogorge is nowhere close to Eternity...Shuma-Gorath is not at 616 Eternity's power either, but he's demonstrated greater power than Demogorge by a long shot. "
616 Eternity is the mainstream Eternity so this Eternity is technically the Multi-Eternity since all realities branches of from 616. "
Correct. "
No, MultiEterinty is being combined of all Eternities from whole Multiverse. That is why SG isn't above it. Multi-Abstracts can exist as a whole being only if there is a threat who must be defeated. Like Abraxas. Abraxas is pretty much multi-abstract, who is a threat to Multi-Eternity. To defeat Multi-Eternity, You have to destroy whole Multiverse. "
Multi-Eternity was a nickname given to 616 Eternity by Captain Universe so he could describe 616 Eternity in his totality. There are tons of proof to back up that 616 Eternity and Multi-Eternity are the same thing, such as:
Uatu stating that 616 Eternity's death would mean the death of all universes immediately afterward.
616 Eternity appeared in front of Doctor Strange holding multiple universes in one hand
Dormammu stating in the Defenders that 616 Eternity had the power to recreate all universes
And anyway on the very same page Captain Universe calls 616 Eternity "Multi Eternity" he refers to him simply as Eternity right afterward on the exact same page. Also, just to be clear, 616 Eternity is not the entire multiverse itself, rather it's the core of the multiverse. "
Thats confusing, so its the same princinpal as why 616 Galactus is the main Galactus while the Galacti (Is that the plural) in other universes are just redundencies so that Abraxas can not be let into the Multiverse?
" @Cypher's Gambit: SHuma does not exssit in every reality. there is no proof there is only one Shuma. there is only one seth, on Chthon etc. Shuma has never proven himself More powerful then Multi eternitey. Shuma has never proven himself more Powerful than the Hunger. it's actually more like Shuma=Chthon. and the Demogre is more powerful than Chthon. "
There is proof. Read Strange Tales. Shuma Devoured hundreds of realities similar to 616. He killed Dr. Strange thousands of time per reality and different time periods multiple times before. Shuma is trans-infinite and he existed in every reality before Genesis sealed him. Shuma Gorath is waaaaay more powerful than Cthon, it's not even remotely close to being equal. Cthon is probably in par with Dormammu, but Dormammu worships Shuma Gorath. Dormammu is a devote to the Principalities aka Cyttorak, Raggadorr, Seraphim, etc... Cyttorak is prabably = Shuma which in turns Cytorrak & Shuma are >>>>>> Chthon by a long shot. Did you even know that Demogorge can barely beat Set???? Set was the only Elder God that Demogorge could not eat, but had to push him away. And Chthon, just runs and hides. Shuma wins by feats of devouring hundreds of realities which Demogorge is a part of "
O rly?
This is not what i remember.You seem to be putting things up just the way you like them.Well then Strange was pretty good overpowering Shuma and just chilling there with Cyttorak but what happened when he was aproaching Chthon?Oh yeah the guy was just dying from his pressence.Chthon was mentioned in the same sentence with TOAA for f sake.. don't bring him in some silly battles with your fanboyed characters just to make yourself feel better.Even fraction of his power did bigger feat than every feat of Shuma,Cyttorak and many more combined.
Oh and btw Shuma would be LUCKY to be called Elder God,mr CortSether.
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