Defeat Wally West (Speedforce)--a challenge
it's come to our attention that this character in the speed force wins alot of the battle threads, well now, you have to beat him, BUT, YOU ARE NOT ALOUD TO USE ZOOM OR ANY OTHER PERSON IN THE FLASH FAMILY, i hope i made myself clear, defeat Wally in a city area whilst in the speed force, and try and pick a character less powerful as possible, no overpowering like hell, just try and use the least powerful character you can......go
Deadman. Or Cloak.
Since they're both intangible, Wally can't do all that much, and then the two can, eventually, either possess him or envelop him inside his cloak.
Wow...no speedsters and no demi god like types....?
Prep time at all? Or just dropped into the city?
This is hard.
lol.
" @Silver2467 said:Because morals are off for Flash. He runs in, kills Sidious, and Sidious's Essence leaves his body. There is nothing Wally can do to Sidious's Essence/spirit. At best, he could stalemate him. On top of that, purely as an Essence, Sidious has traveled between planets, such as from Endor to Byss or from Da Soocha V to Byss. Endor is literally half way across the galaxy from Byss, and it only took a year for Sidious to reach it. FTL travel over numerous lightyears and maneuverability as he taunted Luke once suggest he may be able to possess Wally. Flash may or may not be able to see him, if Sidious so chooses."Sidious can stalemate him and very possibly defeat him also. "
How? "
Stalemate or possession for the win.
(Just for the record, Sidious has relativistic operational speeds. Although, considering Wally can steal speed and move FTL, it makes no difference anyway.)
" @jasraj said:" @Silver2467 said:Because morals are off for Flash. He runs in, kills Sidious, and Sidious's Essence leaves his body. There is nothing Wally can do to Sidious's Essence/spirit. At best, he could stalemate him. On top of that, purely as an Essence, Sidious has traveled between planets, such as from Endor to Byss or from Da Soocha V to Byss. Endor is literally half way across the galaxy from Byss, and it only took a year for Sidious to reach it. FTL travel over numerous lightyears and maneuverability as he taunted Luke once suggest he may be able to possess Wally. Flash may or may not be able to see him, if Sidious so chooses. Stalemate or possession for the win. (Just for the record, Sidious has relativistic operational speeds. Although, considering Wally can steal speed and move FTL, it makes no difference anyway.) ""Sidious can stalemate him and very possibly defeat him also. "
How? "
what's the difference if Morals are on?
" @Silver2467 said:Nothing, really. The only difference is that Essence Transfer would be a failsafe instead of Sidious's only means of victory. As I said, Sidious has light speed operational speed. Understanding that, he could hold out if Wally's morals apply. He could keep up with Flash and attack him with his lightsaber, apply his super strength to land blows on him (possibly but not guaranteed), use Telekinesis, use Force Drain (suck the life energies out of Flash), use Mind Control (although you banned telepathy), etc. If all else fails, Wally defeats Sidious, and he projects his Essence into Flash or any inanimate object in the immediate vicinity. Regardless, once again, it ends in either a stalemate or possession for the win." @jasraj said:" @Silver2467 said:Because morals are off for Flash. He runs in, kills Sidious, and Sidious's Essence leaves his body. There is nothing Wally can do to Sidious's Essence/spirit. At best, he could stalemate him. On top of that, purely as an Essence, Sidious has traveled between planets, such as from Endor to Byss or from Da Soocha V to Byss. Endor is literally half way across the galaxy from Byss, and it only took a year for Sidious to reach it. FTL travel over numerous lightyears and maneuverability as he taunted Luke once suggest he may be able to possess Wally. Flash may or may not be able to see him, if Sidious so chooses. Stalemate or possession for the win. (Just for the record, Sidious has relativistic operational speeds. Although, considering Wally can steal speed and move FTL, it makes no difference anyway.) ""Sidious can stalemate him and very possibly defeat him also. "
How? "
what's the difference if Morals are on? "
@SlimJ87D said:
"Martian Manhunter via Telepathy. "
I once read a user here post that Flash has been able to overcome/resist some type of telepathy by speeding up his thoughts.
I can't validate that, but ask someone who really knows everything Flash is capable of whether telepathy will always work on him.
" Martian Manhunter or Vision. MM can use his telepathy like he did before and Vision can increase the density of Wally. "no wally can accelerate his brain to the point telepathy has no effect.
Bloodlusted MM won't even know the fight has started by the time he gets KOed and has he's speed stolen.
"Um i would say Ice man or Aspen matthews can stalemate him.
@jasraj: why don't you make all these new rules in the OP so everyone who enters the thread knows about it... "
I don't think Ice Man is touching him, not sure about Aspen, and alot of people ignore the OP and post straight away, so i thought i would just re-post new rules, it doesn't really matter
Squirrel Girl. Her Jobber Aura would disrupt the Speed Force and trip up Wally so he slides the entire circumference of the planet on his face.
" @difficlus said:i said stalemate for ice man not a win, as with aspen. and even fewer people bother reading through a thread before posting..."Um i would say Ice man or Aspen matthews can stalemate him.
@jasraj: why don't you make all these new rules in the OP so everyone who enters the thread knows about it... "
I don't think Ice Man is touching him, not sure about Aspen, and alot of people ignore the OP and post straight away, so i thought i would just re-post new rules, it doesn't really matter "
Can Star Man open a massive black hole?
" Can Star Man open a massive black hole? "He would have to do that before Wally kills him.
" @Jake Fury said:" Can Star Man open a massive black hole? "He would have to do that before Wally kills him. "
Curses. Damn speedsters.
The problem with fighting Wally is his operational speed is too high. You need someone with relativistic combat speed to even have a chance. Either that, or simply exist in a state in which Wally can never harm you (i.e., Deadman).
Hmmmmmmm........what if he simultaneously protects himself by altering the gravity in the area to slow down Wally and does it?
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