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#1 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

RULES

Morals off, bloodlust on.

You get the chance to have 1 team.

5 characters maximum

Your team must last for 3 hours

You can use Darkseid and anyone under his level or at par/stalemate with him. (If you want me to move this higher, just say so)

You can use anyone, villian, hero, anti-hero, etc. Just follow what my above post says.

3 hours prep.

Original equipment

mild BFR.

LOCATION

My Character:

Ka'kmaruk's tower.

or 2nd form:

Powers:

Master Dark magic and sorcerery: The Lich King can do multiple things with his sorcery, such as freeze an entire continet, influence events supernaturally, use his voice as a form of Mind control, blood rituals etc. The reason he could only freeze half a part of a continet called The Old Lands is because the big 4 dragons, Abraxas, Dracul, Suihou and Pythois wouldn't let him go any further then the northern part. When a Sightan (air elf) named Lord Fintro sealed the Dragon's powers, he looked at plans in attacking future locations: The Desert, The Jungles, and the Volcano aeras, along with the floating island. He uses his sorcery in this. He can even use his Dark Magic to make someone's head explode, just by him pointing his staff at them. He can also use his sorcery to blow up small stars. His sorcery, however, is limited. He can not curse someone who is blessed by the Mother Tree , neither can he control the minds of those who are protected by the Flames of Suihou, the chills of Abraxas, the clouds of Pythois or the boulders of Dracul. He can also create immense beings of evil.

Teleportation: He can teleport within 2 seconds. However once he teleports 10% of his energy is used, although it normally would do nothing to him in a duel, Teleportation isn't always his first decision in a battle.

Super-human like reflexes: While he's amped with his dark magic he has super-human like reflexes, E.X.: Being able to react to a bullet, or a critical thunderclap from someone like Hulk, or a strike from Superman in the gut. He can also react to the speed of Superman, Wonder woman or the Green Laterns

Shield: He has a shield raised around him at all times, it's invisible. His shield can do good against magical attacks and white magic. His shield can also stop bullets like they would hit a wall, but there is no wall infront of him. If something like a tomahawk missle hit the Lich, his shield would absorb most of the damage but the Lich would be flung back and out of balance. But it'd only take him 1 second to get back up due to his reflexes.

Corruption: This is an element of his sorcery. He can corrupt powerful entities and mold them to dust, corrupt plantlife with a gesture, perhaps corrupt an entire city while moving his staff. Engulfing the city buildings into mold, dirt, rust, crumbling streets, etc.

Mind control: He has the ability to enter someone's mind and control it. He would most likely fail against beings like Martian Manhunter to control his mind, but he could bypass all the anger in Hulk's mind, absorb it into energy for the Lich, then end Hulk very swiftly. His voice can also be used as a form of mind control. If he speaks a word, someone would go under his sorcery and do his bidding. It would take a powerful Wizard to prevent the Lich from killing the Wizard's group when they come to defeat him. Why? The Lich can tap into the minds of others simutaneously as he's fighting and summoning and make them kill themselves, or corrupt them into his minions. A strong magical being can prevent this from happening.

Telepathy: He is a skilled and master telepath. If someone were to try to invade his mind, they'd get attacked with swarms of 10,000 little voices, including darkness that would enter their body and go to their soul and attempt to corrupt it. It is possible for someone to pull out before the Lich's mental defenses kill them. This would be the same if someone tried to peer into his mind.

Possession: The Lich has the abilities to possess someone. Even if they have strong willpower, if they let him in too long he could try to corrupt their soul. If their souls are taken by the Lich, that person will be abused as a Lich minion. The Lich will have full control whatsoever. The Lich has possessed warlocks, witches, snakes, Pigs, Tigers, lions, etc to all do his bidding. He could possess a warlock to summon thousands of demons into an aera and kill everyone, not that he can't do it himself.

Prophecy: He is guarded by a prophecy. It says no mere mortal shall kill Ka'kmaruk. However, superbeings like Superman and Wonder Women are not mere mortals, so there is an exclusion for everyone above street level.

Soul stealing: As I mentioned, he has the ability to steal someone's soul.

Soul protection/immortality: His souls are scattered in multiple Phylacteries all across the real world and in the Underverse (we'll get to that in a moment). As long as these remain the Lich is immortal. If one were to try to destroy his Phylacteries, they'd meet his soul-stealing Zombies and multiple fallen angels that guard them. He'd eventually also show himself. His Phylacteries also provide protection for his soul. If someone tries to corrupt the Lich the magic from the Phylacteries prevent it. If someone destroys his Phylacteries, then they can surely defeat and KILL the Lich. Example, if Omega Beams were to hit him, they'd do nothing more but burn him. One of his phylacteries would be weakened, but he's soul would be safe and protected.

Dimensional creation: He has the ability to create dimensions. However he has only done this ONE time. When he got his Lich form he, for 10 years, shifted through his books of sorcery, gathered together spells and did multiple prep rituals and created the Underverse. He gained full power over it and everyone IN it. That drained him, and it took 100 years for him to regain such energy. He recently just regained all his energy he used to create his domain. No one can erase the Underverse, no one.

Elemental mastery: The Lich has mastered all elements, Water, wind, Earth and fire. But he also has mastered Blood magic and shadowmancy. He can easily manipulate the blood in one's body with a gesture and bend them to his will.

Dark scream: He can use some dark essence from a curse to let out a binding scream that can shatter 100,000 glass windows on multiple buildings simutanelously. This scream can corrupt someone's body due to the essence, and can make them deaf. If he did a direct shot with his essence the target would crumble once hit, into little charcol pieces.

Anti-magic resistence: While he's amped with his sorceries, he is resistant to any anti-magic weapons/techniques.

Immortality: The Lich is an immortal being.

Army of the Undead: His Army is vast and can be risen second by second. They are more agile, durable and stronger then regular human armies. About 30 undead could solo an army of 1,000 U.S. military troops, due to their regeneration factor.

Negation: He can negate any type of magic that comes to him and convert it into a power source for himself.

Blood magic: He can manipulate the blood vessels, drown someone's organs with their own blood, bend someone's blood to make them bow down to his will, etc.

Drain life: He can drain someone's life force, drain the life of a large aera expanding 900 miles, drain life from half of a planet, from a human, etc.

FULL FORM

In his full form, he has the ability to destroy planets by razing and draining all life from the surface. He also has the ability to stalemate a fully-fed Galactus in his full form. He is truly a cosmic threat in this form.

Weaknesses

The only entities he has fought would be: The Mother Tree, the big 4 dragons (who are god-like entites), and the forgotten King. He corrupted the Mother Tree to the point of near death for her and her children. She eventually got up her darkness wards and scared him and his armies away. As for the Dragons they were resistent to Telepathic assaults, mind control and possession. Their smaller dragons weren't, but the dragons themselves were. These entites nearly killed him, and sometimes it was to a stalemate. If he's against really strong entities, he will need serious amping.

But enough creativity and insight into a meaningful character that I took tons of time on.

I've given you a summary, criticism welcome, you may now begin.

#2 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

Thoughts?

#3 Posted by DangerousLoki (729 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

Thoughts?

Much better. The character's powers aren't trarget specific and all make sense in the context of it's power set. A team of five that can take someone on his level? I would have to think on it. Especially someone Darkseid's level or below. A legitimate defined character and with a challenge actually present. I'll let you know if I get a team in mind. The only character that immediately pops into my mind is the next to featless Lady of Light.

#4 Posted by The_Imperator (2092 posts) - - Show Bio

portable Anti-magic field generator + a shield from blitz balls, and Dr. Insano. Without magic, the Litch is as good as dead, as are his forces. And Insano has the Neutro robot and power enhancing gloves. Along with all his other tech.

#5 Posted by jamesbyng188 (245 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Darkseid. Thanos. Dr. Doom. Reed Richards. Dr. Strange

#6 Posted by DangerousLoki (729 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Imperator said:

portable Anti-magic field generator + a shield from blitz balls, and Dr. Insano. Without magic, the Litch is as good as dead, as are his forces. And Insano has the Neutro robot and power enhancing gloves. Along with all his other tech.

Haha. Dr. Insano. That's awesome refrencing right there

#7 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3296 posts) - - Show Bio

John Constantine, Dr Doom, Reed Richards, Dr Who and Batman.

#8 Posted by The_Imperator (2092 posts) - - Show Bio

@DangerousLoki: It was either him, or Grandfather Paradox. I needed a hax character, and I posted Grandfather in that Mother Tree thread, so I went with Dr Insano this time :D :)

#9 Posted by NeonGameWave (10933 posts) - - Show Bio
Doom by Olivier Coipel
Frieza
#10 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Who's the second guy?

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#11 Posted by wbr17 (891 posts) - - Show Bio

Dracul, Mother Tree, The Forgotten King, Abraxas

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#12 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Imperator said:

portable Anti-magic field generator + a shield from blitz balls, and Dr. Insano. Without magic, the Litch is as good as dead, as are his forces. And Insano has the Neutro robot and power enhancing gloves. Along with all his other tech.

Without magic he still has his soul boxes which are hidden in the underverse (he has complete control and dominance over it), and he can still possess others.

#13 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

John Constantine, Dr Doom, Reed Richards, Dr Who and Batman.

Doom is the only thing that would bring this team to a victory. I sware, Batman would get one shotted by the Lich's telepathy, a curse or blood magic before he can even react.

#14 Posted by NeonGameWave (10933 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: Pyron from Darkstalkers.

#15 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: k.. what does he do?

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#16 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@wbr17 said:

Dracul, Mother Tree, The Forgotten King, Abraxas

If he's going against all of them at once, it'd be a problem. Thing is, with a gesture he can end the Forgotten King. The Forgotten King is a demi-god, and can be destroyed with the utter of the Lich's voice. The forgotten king can make people do things/command things with a word, but he has no power over the Lich and his magic. So he gets utterstomped with a gesture. The Lich would summon his army to fight the Mother Tree and destroy her, of course she could defend but y'know.. The Lich would turn Abraxas and Dracul against themself and have them fight, and eventually scorch Abraxas in fire.

Dracul it's a stalemate, so he'd eventually retreat.

#17 Edited by NeonGameWave (10933 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: He`s one of the main villains of the series and is an alien composed of energy from the planet Hellstorm at full power he would be Galactus level but even in his lowest form he can still be very formidable.

http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Pyron

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#18 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@jamesbyng188 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Darkseid. Thanos. Dr. Doom. Reed Richards. Dr. Strange

Darkseid wouldn't be able to TOUCH Ka'kmaruk. The Omega Beams would simply bounce off the Shield, if it did hit him the Beams would need to get past the powerful magic of the soul boxes, which are sealed.

#19 Posted by MFrenzy11 (623 posts) - - Show Bio

CIOE Anti Monitor and PC Darkseid

#20 Posted by DangerousLoki (729 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@jamesbyng188 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Darkseid. Thanos. Dr. Doom. Reed Richards. Dr. Strange

Darkseid wouldn't be able to TOUCH Ka'kmaruk. The Omega Beams would simply bounce off the Shield, if it did hit him the Beams would need to get past the powerful magic of the soul boxes, which are sealed.

Eh. Dr Doom and Strange working together are two of the most powerful sorcerers in the omniverse and I'm using that to cover all realities. If they're combining their efforts. They can probably find a way to counter, defeat or overcome every bit of magic he has. Reed, Doom, and Thanos are prep gods and their inventions and abilities are astounding. Dooms and Thanos' mystical knowledge would not only allow them to harness magic and technology in ways that I shudder to think about. Really. Darkseid is a moot point here. But he has the raw power and force to buy the rest of the team time to break down his defenses that they need and to crush him down once the defenses are down. He can also decimate the army. No one short of the heavy is opposing him. This team takes the majority. With the prep of Richards, Doom, and Thanos (Strange is no slouch either but not quite on par), the power of Thanos and Darkseid (Doom is nothing to sneeze at in power), and the magick of Doom and Strange? There's nothing here to suggest they won't win here. And win a lot.

#21 Posted by Dextersinister (7350 posts) - - Show Bio

=Magnus Hainsley from Angel stomps, look into the face of defeat.

#22 Edited by The_Imperator (2092 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@The_Imperator said:

portable Anti-magic field generator + a shield from blitz balls, and Dr. Insano. Without magic, the Litch is as good as dead, as are his forces. And Insano has the Neutro robot and power enhancing gloves. Along with all his other tech.

Without magic he still has his soul boxes which are hidden in the underverse (he has complete control and dominance over it), and he can still possess others.

How can he possess others? That would be magic, no? And magic would no longer function.

Another group that could defeat him. Three Faction Paradox Loa with sufficient shadow weapons.

#23 Posted by afueikawa (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

She will say : PAIN

They just won't die, unless your character knows some sealing techniques.

#24 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Imperator said:

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@The_Imperator said:

portable Anti-magic field generator + a shield from blitz balls, and Dr. Insano. Without magic, the Litch is as good as dead, as are his forces. And Insano has the Neutro robot and power enhancing gloves. Along with all his other tech.

Without magic he still has his soul boxes which are hidden in the underverse (he has complete control and dominance over it), and he can still possess others.

How can he possess others? That would be magic, no? And magic would no longer function.

Another group that could defeat him. Three Faction Paradox Loa with sufficient shadow weapons.

Possession isn't magic, it's mysticism.

#25 Edited by The_Imperator (2092 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Really? i thought magic was anything that is not science. By default, spiritual/soul possession would equal a form of magic.

#26 Posted by wbr17 (891 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: He can do it in less than 3 hours?

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#27 Posted by DangerousLoki (729 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Imperator: Eh it's debatable. Some people consider everything not science magic but in comics most super powers aren't scientific. Telepathy for instance doesn't exist in science but isn't magic. Cyclops optic blasts. Kitty's phasing. Ghosts exist in marvel and DC and while they're usually involved in mystic events, they're not suggested to be magic on their own. They just are. So generally speaking Spirituality/Etheral forces are considered a subgenre of Mysticism which includes sorcerey but isn't the same thing so it's hard to say if something that effects magic would affect it in the same way manner. You can't just hit a wraith with a counterspell. You have to have a spell to combat them. And most magic for deflecting other magic doesn't stop spirits. It could also be argued that his possession is an offshoot of telepathy as we've seen that powerset before.

#28 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

@afueikawa said:

She will say : PAIN

They just won't die, unless your character knows some sealing techniques.

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#29 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@afueikawa said:

She will say : PAIN

They just won't die, unless your character knows some sealing techniques.

Depends, with his sorcery he cast a curse that prohibited all humans from having/regaining magic, basically turning a race of Forerunners (immortal humans) into puny mortals.

#30 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Well, none of those guys use magic..

@afueikawa: Why not use edo sage? he created jutsu, so it's safe to assume he knows them all.. and he has all releases, and rinnegan techs, and his sage weapons.. plus he was a super jinchuriki.. I'd give him even more chance..

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#31 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Here's one:

Sage of Six paths: Creator/master of ninjutsu, has about every plot weapon required to win lol. A shield that reflects everything limitlessly, a sword that seals everything on touch, a gourd which seals if you say/think of the word you've said most, God. crazy.

Martian Manhunter: Mainly for defensive telepathy.

Dark shneider: Magical Defense and offense. He's anime version of Dr. strange, but darker, and maybe has much more one hit kills..

Doctor who: The best prep there is..

What do you think?

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#32 Posted by jamesbyng188 (245 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Let's look at each of his powers and why my team will counter them

Master Dark magic and sorcerery: The Lich King can do multiple things with his sorcery, such as freeze an entire continet, influence events supernaturally, use his voice as a form of Mind control, blood rituals etc. The reason he could only freeze half a part of a continet called The Old Lands is because the big 4 dragons, Abraxas, Dracul, Suihou and Pythois wouldn't let him go any further then the northern part. When a Sightan (air elf) named Lord Fintro sealed the Dragon's powers, he looked at plans in attacking future locations: The Desert, The Jungles, and the Volcano aeras, along with the floating island. He uses his sorcery in this. He can even use his Dark Magic to make someone's head explode, just by him pointing his staff at them. He can also use his sorcery to blow up small stars. His sorcery, however, is limited. He can not curse someone who is blessed by the Mother Tree , neither can he control the minds of those who are protected by the Flames of Suihou, the chills of Abraxas, the clouds of Pythois or the boulders of Dracul. He can also create immense beings of evil.

Dr. Doom and Dr. Strange have much better feats with magic and with there 3 hour prep his magic won't do anything.

Teleportation: He can teleport within 2 seconds. However once he teleports 10% of his energy is used, although it normally would do nothing to him in a duel, Teleportation isn't always his first decision in a battle.

2 Seconds is a long time against these ones. And since it is not his first decision they could catch him off guard. Also Thanos can teleport much faster. Not sure about Doom and Strange with teleporting.

Super-human like reflexes: While he's amped with his dark magic he has super-human like reflexes, E.X.: Being able to react to a bullet, or a critical thunderclap from someone like Hulk, or a strike from Superman in the gut. He can also react to the speed of Superman, Wonder woman or the Green Laterns

Many of my teams attacks would knock Superman, Wonder Woman or a Green Lantern of gaurd. The Omega Beams are too fast for any of the people there and when they do react it's mostly PIS. So the team has above average attacks at him.

Shield: He has a shield raised around him at all times, it's invisible. His shield can do good against magical attacks and white magic. His shield can also stop bullets like they would hit a wall, but there is no wall infront of him. If something like a tomahawk missle hit the Lich, his shield would absorb most of the damage but the Lich would be flung back and out of balance. But it'd only take him 1 second to get back up due to his reflexes.

Now here we get to the interesting part. Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom's magic has been shown to do many amazing things with it so with their mastery I believe even his shields will fall. Reed Richards has many different weapons including a cosmic teaser like thing that can stop Galactus and Silver Surfer so there's that. Thanos has many high end blast with his energy including being able to knock Galactus across what seems like a whole planet. And being able to hurt Hulk, Thor, and many other with it as well. Darkseid has his Omega Beams which you have said wont do anything but i disagree. You see his beams have beaten magical shields, a little of their power made superman tremble and he needed help to escape. Also they can teleport things in space and time along with wipe them from existance.

Corruption: This is an element of his sorcery. He can corrupt powerful entities and mold them to dust, corrupt plantlife with a gesture, perhaps corrupt an entire city while moving his staff. Engulfing the city buildings into mold, dirt, rust, crumbling streets, etc.

Since it is an element of Sorcery Doom and Strange can easily counter it and protect their team. But i'm not sure that he can even courrpt Thanos or Darkseid.

Mind control: He has the ability to enter someone's mind and control it. He would most likely fail against beings like Martian Manhunter to control his mind, but he could bypass all the anger in Hulk's mind, absorb it into energy for the Lich, then end Hulk very swiftly. His voice can also be used as a form of mind control. If he speaks a word, someone would go under his sorcery and do his bidding. It would take a powerful Wizard to prevent the Lich from killing the Wizard's group when they come to defeat him. Why? The Lich can tap into the minds of others simutaneously as he's fighting and summoning and make them kill themselves, or corrupt them into his minions. A strong magical being can prevent this from happening.

Thanos is a skilled telepath in his own right and Doom, Strange, and Darkseid have resisted mind control before. Richards would be the only one but with his prep he can counter it.

Telepathy: He is a skilled and master telepath. If someone were to try to invade his mind, they'd get attacked with swarms of 10,000 little voices, including darkness that would enter their body and go to their soul and attempt to corrupt it. It is possible for someone to pull out before the Lich's mental defenses kill them. This would be the same if someone tried to peer into his mind.

Yeah carry over everything I just said.

Possession: The Lich has the abilities to possess someone. Even if they have strong willpower, if they let him in too long he could try to corrupt their soul. If their souls are taken by the Lich, that person will be abused as a Lich minion. The Lich will have full control whatsoever. The Lich has possessed warlocks, witches, snakes, Pigs, Tigers, lions, etc to all do his bidding. He could possess a warlock to summon thousands of demons into an aera and kill everyone, not that he can't do it himself.

Doom and Strange can counter this and I don't even think it will work on Thanos or Darkseid. You can't corrupt these kind of people.

Prophecy: He is guarded by a prophecy. It says no mere mortal shall kill Ka'kmaruk. However, superbeings like Superman and Wonder Women are not mere mortals, so there is an exclusion for everyone above street level.

All are above street level.

Soul stealing: As I mentioned, he has the ability to steal someone's soul.

Strange has the Soul Gem.

Soul protection/immortality: His souls are scattered in multiple Phylacteries all across the real world and in the Underverse (we'll get to that in a moment). As long as these remain the Lich is immortal. If one were to try to destroy his Phylacteries, they'd meet his soul-stealing Zombies and multiple fallen angels that guard them. He'd eventually also show himself. His Phylacteries also provide protection for his soul. If someone tries to corrupt the Lich the magic from the Phylacteries prevent it. If someone destroys his Phylacteries, then they can surely defeat and KILL the Lich.

Again Strange has the Soul gem. Darkseid has beaten regular angels so has Thanos. Doom and Strange could do the same. Reed with prep can counter the zombies and angels.

Dimensional creation: He has the ability to create dimensions. However he has only done this ONE time. When he got his Lich form he, for 10 years, shifted through his books of sorcery, gathered together spells and did multiple prep rituals and created the Underverse. He gained full power over it and everyone IN it. That drained him, and it took 100 years for him to regain such energy. He recently just regained all his energy he used to create his domain.

Doom and Strange with prep could destroy the dimension from the outside/

Elemental mastery: The Lich has mastered all elements, Water, wind, Earth and fire. But he also has mastered Blood magic and shadowmancy. He can easily manipulate the blood in one's body with a gesture and bend them to his will.

This would only be a problem to Reed. The others could easily resist the blood with magic or tech that they have. And even reed would have tech against it.

Dark scream: He can use some dark essence from a curse to let out a binding scream that can shatter 100,000 glass windows on multiple buildings simutanelously. This scream can corrupt someone's body due to the essence, and can make them deaf. If he did a direct shot with his essence the target would crumble once hit, into little charcol pieces.

Magic Shields would defend from this. And the scream would not even effect Thanos or Darkseid for they won't be croupted by magic, there beings of pure evil.

Weaknesses: The only entities he has fought would be: The Mother Tree, the big 4 dragons (who are god-like entites), and the forgotten King. He corrupted the Mother Tree to the point of near death for her and her children. She eventually got up her darkness wards and scared him and his armies away. As for the Dragons they were resistent to Telepathic assaults, mind control and possession. Their smaller dragons weren't, but the dragons themselves were. These entites nearly killed him, and sometimes it was to a stalemate. If he's against really strong entities, he will need serious amping.

Dragons: Dracul is the Dragon of earth, Suihou the dragon of Fire, Pythois the Dragon of Air, and Abraxas Dragon of Water. One time the Lich had filled Suihou's mouth with water, nearly suffocated him, and then turned the water into mold, mildew, and waste and sent it down Suihou's bloodstream, nearly killing him. Once Suihou used the last of his energy to create a protective shield of flames around himself that the Lich couldn't hinder, the Lich went back for a victory dance in his tower, even though he didn't kill Suihou but he drastically weakened and damaged him. He spawned fire centaurs, fire worms and giant fire snakes onto Abraxas, they consumed a massive part of his insides, but the Water he has defeated the Fire attacks and sent Abraxas retreating. He EASILY handled Pythois by suffocating her with her own air and molding her heart, killing her.

The only dragon he failed to kill was Dracul. The great Dragon of Earth was strong enough to withstand his fire attacks, withstand his molding with regeneration factor, and withstand most of his sorcery. He nearly died to the freezing spell the Lich cast onto him, though. He surronded himself in bolders and regenerated himself fully. Dracul then left the Lich and the Lich left, angered that it was a stalemate.

Not sure how to respond to these last ones.

#33 Posted by DangerousLoki (729 posts) - - Show Bio

@jamesbyng188 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Let's look at each of his powers and why my team will counter them

Master Dark magic and sorcerery: The Lich King can do multiple things with his sorcery, such as freeze an entire continet, influence events supernaturally, use his voice as a form of Mind control, blood rituals etc. The reason he could only freeze half a part of a continet called The Old Lands is because the big 4 dragons, Abraxas, Dracul, Suihou and Pythois wouldn't let him go any further then the northern part. When a Sightan (air elf) named Lord Fintro sealed the Dragon's powers, he looked at plans in attacking future locations: The Desert, The Jungles, and the Volcano aeras, along with the floating island. He uses his sorcery in this. He can even use his Dark Magic to make someone's head explode, just by him pointing his staff at them. He can also use his sorcery to blow up small stars. His sorcery, however, is limited. He can not curse someone who is blessed by the Mother Tree , neither can he control the minds of those who are protected by the Flames of Suihou, the chills of Abraxas, the clouds of Pythois or the boulders of Dracul. He can also create immense beings of evil.

Dr. Doom and Dr. Strange have much better feats with magic and with there 3 hour prep his magic won't do anything.

Teleportation: He can teleport within 2 seconds. However once he teleports 10% of his energy is used, although it normally would do nothing to him in a duel, Teleportation isn't always his first decision in a battle.

2 Seconds is a long time against these ones. And since it is not his first decision they could catch him off guard. Also Thanos can teleport much faster. Not sure about Doom and Strange with teleporting.

Super-human like reflexes: While he's amped with his dark magic he has super-human like reflexes, E.X.: Being able to react to a bullet, or a critical thunderclap from someone like Hulk, or a strike from Superman in the gut. He can also react to the speed of Superman, Wonder woman or the Green Laterns

Many of my teams attacks would knock Superman, Wonder Woman or a Green Lantern of gaurd. The Omega Beams are too fast for any of the people there and when they do react it's mostly PIS. So the team has above average attacks at him.

Shield: He has a shield raised around him at all times, it's invisible. His shield can do good against magical attacks and white magic. His shield can also stop bullets like they would hit a wall, but there is no wall infront of him. If something like a tomahawk missle hit the Lich, his shield would absorb most of the damage but the Lich would be flung back and out of balance. But it'd only take him 1 second to get back up due to his reflexes.

Now here we get to the interesting part. Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom's magic has been shown to do many amazing things with it so with their mastery I believe even his shields will fall. Reed Richards has many different weapons including a cosmic teaser like thing that can stop Galactus and Silver Surfer so there's that. Thanos has many high end blast with his energy including being able to knock Galactus across what seems like a whole planet. And being able to hurt Hulk, Thor, and many other with it as well. Darkseid has his Omega Beams which you have said wont do anything but i disagree. You see his beams have beaten magical shields, a little of their power made superman tremble and he needed help to escape. Also they can teleport things in space and time along with wipe them from existance.

Corruption: This is an element of his sorcery. He can corrupt powerful entities and mold them to dust, corrupt plantlife with a gesture, perhaps corrupt an entire city while moving his staff. Engulfing the city buildings into mold, dirt, rust, crumbling streets, etc.

Since it is an element of Sorcery Doom and Strange can easily counter it and protect their team. But i'm not sure that he can even courrpt Thanos or Darkseid.

Mind control: He has the ability to enter someone's mind and control it. He would most likely fail against beings like Martian Manhunter to control his mind, but he could bypass all the anger in Hulk's mind, absorb it into energy for the Lich, then end Hulk very swiftly. His voice can also be used as a form of mind control. If he speaks a word, someone would go under his sorcery and do his bidding. It would take a powerful Wizard to prevent the Lich from killing the Wizard's group when they come to defeat him. Why? The Lich can tap into the minds of others simutaneously as he's fighting and summoning and make them kill themselves, or corrupt them into his minions. A strong magical being can prevent this from happening.

Thanos is a skilled telepath in his own right and Doom, Strange, and Darkseid have resisted mind control before. Richards would be the only one but with his prep he can counter it.

Telepathy: He is a skilled and master telepath. If someone were to try to invade his mind, they'd get attacked with swarms of 10,000 little voices, including darkness that would enter their body and go to their soul and attempt to corrupt it. It is possible for someone to pull out before the Lich's mental defenses kill them. This would be the same if someone tried to peer into his mind.

Yeah carry over everything I just said.

Possession: The Lich has the abilities to possess someone. Even if they have strong willpower, if they let him in too long he could try to corrupt their soul. If their souls are taken by the Lich, that person will be abused as a Lich minion. The Lich will have full control whatsoever. The Lich has possessed warlocks, witches, snakes, Pigs, Tigers, lions, etc to all do his bidding. He could possess a warlock to summon thousands of demons into an aera and kill everyone, not that he can't do it himself.

Doom and Strange can counter this and I don't even think it will work on Thanos or Darkseid. You can't corrupt these kind of people.

Prophecy: He is guarded by a prophecy. It says no mere mortal shall kill Ka'kmaruk. However, superbeings like Superman and Wonder Women are not mere mortals, so there is an exclusion for everyone above street level.

All are above street level.

Soul stealing: As I mentioned, he has the ability to steal someone's soul.

Strange has the Soul Gem.

Soul protection/immortality: His souls are scattered in multiple Phylacteries all across the real world and in the Underverse (we'll get to that in a moment). As long as these remain the Lich is immortal. If one were to try to destroy his Phylacteries, they'd meet his soul-stealing Zombies and multiple fallen angels that guard them. He'd eventually also show himself. His Phylacteries also provide protection for his soul. If someone tries to corrupt the Lich the magic from the Phylacteries prevent it. If someone destroys his Phylacteries, then they can surely defeat and KILL the Lich.

Again Strange has the Soul gem. Darkseid has beaten regular angels so has Thanos. Doom and Strange could do the same. Reed with prep can counter the zombies and angels.

Dimensional creation: He has the ability to create dimensions. However he has only done this ONE time. When he got his Lich form he, for 10 years, shifted through his books of sorcery, gathered together spells and did multiple prep rituals and created the Underverse. He gained full power over it and everyone IN it. That drained him, and it took 100 years for him to regain such energy. He recently just regained all his energy he used to create his domain.

Doom and Strange with prep could destroy the dimension from the outside/

Elemental mastery: The Lich has mastered all elements, Water, wind, Earth and fire. But he also has mastered Blood magic and shadowmancy. He can easily manipulate the blood in one's body with a gesture and bend them to his will.

This would only be a problem to Reed. The others could easily resist the blood with magic or tech that they have. And even reed would have tech against it.

Dark scream: He can use some dark essence from a curse to let out a binding scream that can shatter 100,000 glass windows on multiple buildings simutanelously. This scream can corrupt someone's body due to the essence, and can make them deaf. If he did a direct shot with his essence the target would crumble once hit, into little charcol pieces.

Magic Shields would defend from this. And the scream would not even effect Thanos or Darkseid for they won't be croupted by magic, there beings of pure evil.

Weaknesses: The only entities he has fought would be: The Mother Tree, the big 4 dragons (who are god-like entites), and the forgotten King. He corrupted the Mother Tree to the point of near death for her and her children. She eventually got up her darkness wards and scared him and his armies away. As for the Dragons they were resistent to Telepathic assaults, mind control and possession. Their smaller dragons weren't, but the dragons themselves were. These entites nearly killed him, and sometimes it was to a stalemate. If he's against really strong entities, he will need serious amping.

Dragons: Dracul is the Dragon of earth, Suihou the dragon of Fire, Pythois the Dragon of Air, and Abraxas Dragon of Water. One time the Lich had filled Suihou's mouth with water, nearly suffocated him, and then turned the water into mold, mildew, and waste and sent it down Suihou's bloodstream, nearly killing him. Once Suihou used the last of his energy to create a protective shield of flames around himself that the Lich couldn't hinder, the Lich went back for a victory dance in his tower, even though he didn't kill Suihou but he drastically weakened and damaged him. He spawned fire centaurs, fire worms and giant fire snakes onto Abraxas, they consumed a massive part of his insides, but the Water he has defeated the Fire attacks and sent Abraxas retreating. He EASILY handled Pythois by suffocating her with her own air and molding her heart, killing her.

The only dragon he failed to kill was Dracul. The great Dragon of Earth was strong enough to withstand his fire attacks, withstand his molding with regeneration factor, and withstand most of his sorcery. He nearly died to the freezing spell the Lich cast onto him, though. He surronded himself in bolders and regenerated himself fully. Dracul then left the Lich and the Lich left, angered that it was a stalemate.

Not sure how to respond to these last ones.

I agree with all of this. This team is certainly more then capable of dealing with this challenge. I give you a gold star.

#34 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@DangerousLoki said:

@jamesbyng188 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Let's look at each of his powers and why my team will counter them

Master Dark magic and sorcerery: The Lich King can do multiple things with his sorcery, such as freeze an entire continet, influence events supernaturally, use his voice as a form of Mind control, blood rituals etc. The reason he could only freeze half a part of a continet called The Old Lands is because the big 4 dragons, Abraxas, Dracul, Suihou and Pythois wouldn't let him go any further then the northern part. When a Sightan (air elf) named Lord Fintro sealed the Dragon's powers, he looked at plans in attacking future locations: The Desert, The Jungles, and the Volcano aeras, along with the floating island. He uses his sorcery in this. He can even use his Dark Magic to make someone's head explode, just by him pointing his staff at them. He can also use his sorcery to blow up small stars. His sorcery, however, is limited. He can not curse someone who is blessed by the Mother Tree , neither can he control the minds of those who are protected by the Flames of Suihou, the chills of Abraxas, the clouds of Pythois or the boulders of Dracul. He can also create immense beings of evil.

Dr. Doom and Dr. Strange have much better feats with magic and with there 3 hour prep his magic won't do anything.

Teleportation: He can teleport within 2 seconds. However once he teleports 10% of his energy is used, although it normally would do nothing to him in a duel, Teleportation isn't always his first decision in a battle.

2 Seconds is a long time against these ones. And since it is not his first decision they could catch him off guard. Also Thanos can teleport much faster. Not sure about Doom and Strange with teleporting.

Super-human like reflexes: While he's amped with his dark magic he has super-human like reflexes, E.X.: Being able to react to a bullet, or a critical thunderclap from someone like Hulk, or a strike from Superman in the gut. He can also react to the speed of Superman, Wonder woman or the Green Laterns

Many of my teams attacks would knock Superman, Wonder Woman or a Green Lantern of gaurd. The Omega Beams are too fast for any of the people there and when they do react it's mostly PIS. So the team has above average attacks at him.

Shield: He has a shield raised around him at all times, it's invisible. His shield can do good against magical attacks and white magic. His shield can also stop bullets like they would hit a wall, but there is no wall infront of him. If something like a tomahawk missle hit the Lich, his shield would absorb most of the damage but the Lich would be flung back and out of balance. But it'd only take him 1 second to get back up due to his reflexes.

Now here we get to the interesting part. Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom's magic has been shown to do many amazing things with it so with their mastery I believe even his shields will fall. Reed Richards has many different weapons including a cosmic teaser like thing that can stop Galactus and Silver Surfer so there's that. Thanos has many high end blast with his energy including being able to knock Galactus across what seems like a whole planet. And being able to hurt Hulk, Thor, and many other with it as well. Darkseid has his Omega Beams which you have said wont do anything but i disagree. You see his beams have beaten magical shields, a little of their power made superman tremble and he needed help to escape. Also they can teleport things in space and time along with wipe them from existance.

Corruption: This is an element of his sorcery. He can corrupt powerful entities and mold them to dust, corrupt plantlife with a gesture, perhaps corrupt an entire city while moving his staff. Engulfing the city buildings into mold, dirt, rust, crumbling streets, etc.

Since it is an element of Sorcery Doom and Strange can easily counter it and protect their team. But i'm not sure that he can even courrpt Thanos or Darkseid.

Mind control: He has the ability to enter someone's mind and control it. He would most likely fail against beings like Martian Manhunter to control his mind, but he could bypass all the anger in Hulk's mind, absorb it into energy for the Lich, then end Hulk very swiftly. His voice can also be used as a form of mind control. If he speaks a word, someone would go under his sorcery and do his bidding. It would take a powerful Wizard to prevent the Lich from killing the Wizard's group when they come to defeat him. Why? The Lich can tap into the minds of others simutaneously as he's fighting and summoning and make them kill themselves, or corrupt them into his minions. A strong magical being can prevent this from happening.

Thanos is a skilled telepath in his own right and Doom, Strange, and Darkseid have resisted mind control before. Richards would be the only one but with his prep he can counter it.

Telepathy: He is a skilled and master telepath. If someone were to try to invade his mind, they'd get attacked with swarms of 10,000 little voices, including darkness that would enter their body and go to their soul and attempt to corrupt it. It is possible for someone to pull out before the Lich's mental defenses kill them. This would be the same if someone tried to peer into his mind.

Yeah carry over everything I just said.

Possession: The Lich has the abilities to possess someone. Even if they have strong willpower, if they let him in too long he could try to corrupt their soul. If their souls are taken by the Lich, that person will be abused as a Lich minion. The Lich will have full control whatsoever. The Lich has possessed warlocks, witches, snakes, Pigs, Tigers, lions, etc to all do his bidding. He could possess a warlock to summon thousands of demons into an aera and kill everyone, not that he can't do it himself.

Doom and Strange can counter this and I don't even think it will work on Thanos or Darkseid. You can't corrupt these kind of people.

Prophecy: He is guarded by a prophecy. It says no mere mortal shall kill Ka'kmaruk. However, superbeings like Superman and Wonder Women are not mere mortals, so there is an exclusion for everyone above street level.

All are above street level.

Soul stealing: As I mentioned, he has the ability to steal someone's soul.

Strange has the Soul Gem.

Soul protection/immortality: His souls are scattered in multiple Phylacteries all across the real world and in the Underverse (we'll get to that in a moment). As long as these remain the Lich is immortal. If one were to try to destroy his Phylacteries, they'd meet his soul-stealing Zombies and multiple fallen angels that guard them. He'd eventually also show himself. His Phylacteries also provide protection for his soul. If someone tries to corrupt the Lich the magic from the Phylacteries prevent it. If someone destroys his Phylacteries, then they can surely defeat and KILL the Lich.

Again Strange has the Soul gem. Darkseid has beaten regular angels so has Thanos. Doom and Strange could do the same. Reed with prep can counter the zombies and angels.

Dimensional creation: He has the ability to create dimensions. However he has only done this ONE time. When he got his Lich form he, for 10 years, shifted through his books of sorcery, gathered together spells and did multiple prep rituals and created the Underverse. He gained full power over it and everyone IN it. That drained him, and it took 100 years for him to regain such energy. He recently just regained all his energy he used to create his domain.

Doom and Strange with prep could destroy the dimension from the outside/

Elemental mastery: The Lich has mastered all elements, Water, wind, Earth and fire. But he also has mastered Blood magic and shadowmancy. He can easily manipulate the blood in one's body with a gesture and bend them to his will.

This would only be a problem to Reed. The others could easily resist the blood with magic or tech that they have. And even reed would have tech against it.

Dark scream: He can use some dark essence from a curse to let out a binding scream that can shatter 100,000 glass windows on multiple buildings simutanelously. This scream can corrupt someone's body due to the essence, and can make them deaf. If he did a direct shot with his essence the target would crumble once hit, into little charcol pieces.

Magic Shields would defend from this. And the scream would not even effect Thanos or Darkseid for they won't be croupted by magic, there beings of pure evil.

Weaknesses: The only entities he has fought would be: The Mother Tree, the big 4 dragons (who are god-like entites), and the forgotten King. He corrupted the Mother Tree to the point of near death for her and her children. She eventually got up her darkness wards and scared him and his armies away. As for the Dragons they were resistent to Telepathic assaults, mind control and possession. Their smaller dragons weren't, but the dragons themselves were. These entites nearly killed him, and sometimes it was to a stalemate. If he's against really strong entities, he will need serious amping.

Dragons: Dracul is the Dragon of earth, Suihou the dragon of Fire, Pythois the Dragon of Air, and Abraxas Dragon of Water. One time the Lich had filled Suihou's mouth with water, nearly suffocated him, and then turned the water into mold, mildew, and waste and sent it down Suihou's bloodstream, nearly killing him. Once Suihou used the last of his energy to create a protective shield of flames around himself that the Lich couldn't hinder, the Lich went back for a victory dance in his tower, even though he didn't kill Suihou but he drastically weakened and damaged him. He spawned fire centaurs, fire worms and giant fire snakes onto Abraxas, they consumed a massive part of his insides, but the Water he has defeated the Fire attacks and sent Abraxas retreating. He EASILY handled Pythois by suffocating her with her own air and molding her heart, killing her.

The only dragon he failed to kill was Dracul. The great Dragon of Earth was strong enough to withstand his fire attacks, withstand his molding with regeneration factor, and withstand most of his sorcery. He nearly died to the freezing spell the Lich cast onto him, though. He surronded himself in bolders and regenerated himself fully. Dracul then left the Lich and the Lich left, angered that it was a stalemate.

Not sure how to respond to these last ones.

I agree with all of this. This team is certainly more then capable of dealing with this challenge. I give you a gold star.

Alright, you win. But unless Darkseid can locate all 20 of his soul boxes, the Lich isn't dying. He'll just be defeated

#35 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@wbr17 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: He can do it in less than 3 hours?

He can do it in less then 3 minutes.

#36 Posted by jamesbyng188 (245 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: You forget that he has a mad titan, a prep god, the sorcerer supreme, his runner up, and he himself has a whole planet to his dissposel, and he's anti god. Not to mention we only see darkseid as his avatar, his true form beat the source and if we use that has darkseids power cap I could have many more beings but I used the more well known. oh and even if the sorcerer supreme can't find them, they can destroy the universe ending it all.

#37 Posted by DireDrill (2483 posts) - - Show Bio

Magik Stomps.

#38 Posted by The_Imperator (2092 posts) - - Show Bio

@DangerousLoki: Good Point. Then I say Insano with a telepathy doodad (I'm sure he has one:P ) + Nuetro + anti-magic field generator.

#39 Posted by DangerousLoki (729 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Imperator: I don't think he has one on standby. I don't think he's had to face a telepath yet. Team him up with Richards or Doom. Both are likely to have that in their arsenal.

#40 Posted by The_Imperator (2092 posts) - - Show Bio

@DangerousLoki: You misunderstood me. Hypertime remote + goal = solution. Infinite Insanos all with telepathy protecting helmets. :P

#41 Posted by robertloucksjr (1927 posts) - - Show Bio

Maxima, Loki with Norn Stones, Ghost Rider, Kuurth Juggernaut, Classic Dr. Strange

All pretty much TP proof. Two pretty much can't be hurt. The other three to have force fields. Two of them are master magicians. Loki and Dr. Strange are great preppers.

#42 Posted by lolcattz (93 posts) - - Show Bio

Thats a VERY cool villian, wheres the fanfic link o:

#43 Posted by afueikawa (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@afueikawa said:

She will say : PAIN

They just won't die, unless your character knows some sealing techniques.

Depends, with his sorcery he cast a curse that prohibited all humans from having/regaining magic, basically turning a race of Forerunners (immortal humans) into puny mortals.

The only way to stop Edo Tensei is to either seal them or make the caster stop the technique.

And Jane's power I think can solo? IMO that is.

Pain, and you'll char would experience it. Was just wondering if she would say pleasure to someone. LOL

#44 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

@afueikawa said:

Pain, and you'll char would experience it. Was just wondering if she would say pleasure to someone. LOL

Oohhh...

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#45 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#46 Posted by batkevin74 (12337 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Hmmm let's see Dr Strange and Dr Fate to combat your guy magically, Mr Majestic for the raw strength plus he has psychic powers and he's a genius and gadget builder, also Martian Manhunter for strength psychics invisibility etc and finally Buffy the Vampire Slayer who has vast experience dealing with all kinds of undead, magic and usually wins her fights with fatal results for her opponents.

I think you're Big Bad Evil skeleton is going down!

#47 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2260 posts) - - Show Bio

@batkevin74: He'd sense MMH. Most likely would have an intangible entity summoned to deal with him.

What's stopping him from simutaneously mind-raping/draining Buffy while combating Dr Strange? I can see him lasting against Strange and Fate for 20 minutes.

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