Debaters Rating Thread

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@frozen:

If he's ego is fueled and you're both 2-2 - go for a 5th CAV!

lol, oh we will. we do them periodically. we have a Steve Rogers VS. Gambit one planned nexty, and the next installment of our "brick themed" series as well. right @serrure?

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#1502  Edited By serrure

@frozen: we have plans for a Gambit vs Captain America CaV soon

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@cosmicallyaware1: didnt see you comment... lol i pretty much said the same thing except i did forget our brick themed... you still havent beaten the Thing

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@serrure said:

@cosmicallyaware1: didnt see you comment... lol i pretty much said the same thing except i did forget our brick themed... you still havent beaten the Thing

pffft, Ben Grimm. I'll get him one of these days, not too worried. I do wanna represent Jen next though......

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@cosmicallyaware1: well we all know Ben stomps Jen... ill try to find someone weaker...

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@serrure said:

@cosmicallyaware1: well we all know Ben stomps Jen... ill try to find someone weaker...

yeah, I do agree that Ben beats Jen. I can smell your smugness from here lol.....

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@higorm: I would like to know where I stand. I know I have weak points but I'm not sure what they are

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#1508 HigorM  Moderator

@deerock313: Do you have links from battles you have participated?

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#1509  Edited By thedailybagel  Moderator

Could I have a rate using these two battles please? (I'm looking for things I need to improve so a no hold barred critique would be great).

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/cav-hulk-tdb-vs-sophia89-sentry-1612163/

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/cav-serrure-vs-thedailybagel-1614839/

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I give myself a 2/10.

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I'd like to think I was pretty good back when I was a regular, but I was away for a while. I've been struggling to keep up to date on comics the last year or two and now my character knowledge really isn't what it once was.

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#1515 HigorM  Moderator

@kaang_the_watcher: I feel the same way man. We could do a CaV to test ourselves, what do you think?

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@higorm said:

@kaang_the_watcher: I feel the same way man. We could do a CaV to test ourselves, what do you think?

I've done two CaVs since coming back, but both of them died.

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#1517 HigorM  Moderator

@kaang_the_watcher: Died because of you or the others?

Anyway, it's up to you, I have plenty time right now so..

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@higorm: The others. They just stopped replying eventually. It was disappointing.

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#1520 HigorM  Moderator

@kaang_the_watcher: Yeah I'd imagined.. So let's do it or not?

@claymore1998: Stop saying staaph!! It annoys me!! XD

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#1521  Edited By Primez0ne

I have had a lot of debates by now so I want to see what people honestly think of my debating ability overall. I know Tparks gave me a very positive rating but I want a few more. These are the two debates I think I did the best in

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/gt-r1-primez0ne-vs-darkraiden-voting-1619389/#41

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/wt-2-0-sovereign-vs-primez0ne-vote-1592902/#53

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@higorm: Yeah dude. I tagged you in a post in the CaV thread.

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@higorm said:

@claymore1998: Stop saying staaph!! It annoys me!! XD

If it's annoying you, i shall take that as enough evidence to proclaim victory ^_^

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#1526 HigorM  Moderator

@claymore1998: Ok you won!

As a reward, you got yourself a rating ticket!

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Nice thread.

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I would like to get a rating

Anyone got one?

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I rate myself 65/100!

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#1530  Edited By PacPanda

I may have killed this thread.

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Oh yes please someone who can rate my debating skills would be much appreciated ^_^

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@higorm: I'll try and rate some people tomorrow, glad you consider me an "Official Rater" here :)

Users I Plan To Rate

I'll try and have a rating up for you three within the next 24 hours.

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@thetruebarryallen: Thanks mate! You seemed like the best option and most qualified for this honorable position :P

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@frisky4: 665/666

Not just any motherf*cker can pick up Thor's ham, you gotta be strong

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@claymore1998: too old to debate!

Nope you are too much of a kid to understand my matured debating style >_>

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Detailed Analysis: @claymore1998

Here I will judge you on the areas that I judge myself & others while debating.

  1. Formatting
  2. Introduction Post
  3. Rebuttals
  4. Character Knowledge [ For + Against ]
  5. Overall Attitude

Formatting: B

I'm looking at your debate with HTTK (Loki vs Dr.Strange CAV) and it seems like you've gotten a decent formatting setup. I would; however, suggest that you might highlight key points of the debate such as making a section for comments regarding the Blinding Spell you've mentioned, a section for Doctor Strange's telepathic feats, a section for the Bands of C argument, etc.

I do this (as can be seen in my battle w/Beatboks1) to highlight each and every one of the main debate points, and this way when people read the argument they can clearly see each section and read your arguments for them.

What you're currently doing isn't bad, it's better than many of the newer (I say newer since you're still a 'Greenhorn' in the Battle Forums) users have done, but I figured I'd give you my feedback on it.

Introductory/Introduction Post: B+

I personally don't know all that much about Doctor Strange, so it would've been nice to see a little bit of background on the character in your introduction post, you sort of jumped right into the debate and posted some feats, but it's always nice to get a short recap on the character and some of his/her powers abilities before the fight begins.

Regardless; looking at the argument you presented you brought up a variety of good/interesting points but didn't use EVERYTHING in Doctor Strange's arsenal to put HTTK on the ropes. It's good to save some backup arguments for later posts, and it seems you've grasped that.

Rebuttals: B+

You address everything your opponent posts; and you have fairly good answers for them backed up with scans & whatnot.

I might suggest that you use slightly LESS scans in your argument and focus more on wordsmithing, not because scans are terrible, but given the 3 scan rule it'll always be a huge benefit to be able to explain a series of scans than to just try and post the highlights of what you're trying to explain.

I'd also suggest citing issues if you can, I'm always impressed when someone cites a specific instance and they can give what issue it came from as well. That way users know where they can find the specific feat in question should they ever want to do some fact checking of their own.

Character Knowledge: B

I personally don't know much about your character knowledge. From what I've seen you have a decent grasp on Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange, and Ultron; however, versatility is incredibly important when it comes to debating.

I know there are several users who stick to a specific tier (Street, City, Planet, Herald, etc) and that's perfectly fine, it's just good to be able to debate a variety of characters. It also helps in case you're debating against those characters because then you'll be able to use your own knowledge of that character to support your arguments.

Attitude: A

You've got a great attitude about the whole debate thing; it's supposed to be a learning experience. Users like Cosmicallyaware1 and Killemall had some of the best attitudes on the site when it came to debating, and if you keep on your current path then I can see you following in their footsteps in being pleasant to interact with regardless if you're debating against them or alongside them.

Overall Ranking: B+

You're new here, but from what I've seen you have a lot of potential should you take criticisms as an opportunity to grow. I myself have only been a user here for a year and a half; however, I got voted into the Hall of Fame and built a decent reputation and have made many friends here on the Battle Forums.

You can do the same if you stick with it, expand your character roster, build your own unique debating style, and just have fun with it. That's the most important advice I can give, debating here is for fun and too many people take it too seriously.

I look forward to your growth as a debater here on the site, if you have any specific questions about my review of you or just about debating in general feel free to PM me. I know I don't know you all that well but I'm always willing to give my input (whatever that means to people) if someone wants it.

Keep up the good work :)

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#1546  Edited By MonsterStomp

@thetruebarryallen: I've actually read a few of your debates supporting Deadshot and I must say you're very impressive. Your formatting/layout is easy to follow, you're very knowledgeable on your characters, you bring up solid points and cases as well as providing evidence accordingly and your attitude keeps a neutral tone. I'd class you in the 'A' category!

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@thetruebarryallen: I've actually read a few of your debates supporting Deadshot and I must say you're very impressive. Your formatting/layout is easy to follow, you're very knowledgeable on your characters, you bring up solid points and cases as well as providing evidence accordingly and your attitude keeps a neutral tone. I'd class you in the 'A' category!

Thanks a bunch, MonsterStomp :)

Glad you know you've liked reading my debates; especially the ones with one of my favorite characters!

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@thetruebarryallen: thank you for the rating I appreciate it ^_^

You're welcome; if any of it was written oddly or not clear I'd be glad to address it. I wrote this at 3AM and sometimes my sleepiness takes over my typing haha

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