Debater VS Debater Joygirl VS jeanroygrant

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SHAZAM! Chances are good that Black Adam can take this match by himself! Sure, Bizarro isn't all that smart -- but neither of these hammer-weilding goons are geniuses either, certainly not good enough at manipulating people to make the Thing of Steel a non-factor. Bizarro has NO WEAKNESSES except against blue kryptonite -- so the magical edge that would give the Thorettes an edge against Superman will no nothing against Bizzy. He's gonna be stronger, far faster, and he's completely invulnerable to harm. This guy beat Zoom in a race and thrashed Wonder Woman. With Black Adam as a guiding hand he will be devestating... not to mention Adam himself, who is likely even more powerful than Bizarro, considering his feats in WW3.

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Are spectators like myself allowed to sideline cheer? :P

@ToO_RaW said:

Are spectators like myself allowed to sideline cheer? :P

I'm not waiting for an answer.

GO JOYGIRL! *does a cartwheel*

Sincerely,

Mhmm, I hear ya, nanoseconds and planet busting and all that fun stuff. :P As for the Zoom thing, I saw a scan of Zoom and Bizarro cruising around earth. They were keeping perfect time, except that Zoom was going straight and Bizarro is zig-zagging. ^_^ It has been agreed on many occasions that Thor would defeat Superman. I have acknowledged that. However, the REASON behind it is not because Thor is stronger, faster, smarter, or better in any way. The reason is because he comes close enough that his magical nature can take advantage of Superman's vulnerability. Bizarro is IMMUNE TO MAGIC! Thor calls down lightning or tries using his fancy tricks, Bizzy's gonna laugh it off and rip Thor's head off. Much as you said BRB is a morals-off Thor, Bizarro is morals-off Superman, with flame breath and ice vision, capable of bringing down demigods like Wonder Woman. Black Adam on the other hand, is as you said, clearly shown to be the most powerful member of any Marvel family, perhaps possibly Isis, though I have never seen her prove it. Black Adam was capable of taking on, and defeating, the JLA and JSA together, by himself. When he told Power Girl to get the f*** out of his country, she turned tail and did exactly that. As a Power Girl fan I am deeply aware that she wouldn't run without a fight unless she had a damn good reason for it.

*grabs chair* I will wait in the corner, this will get interesting.

Sorry just thought i would intervene as both seems a little confused to what happened in regards to Bizzar vs Zoom.

Bizzaro raced Zoom in Action Comics 831, and the context was Zoom wanted Bizzaro to join his Society of Super villians, and Zoom was specifically sent there by Lex Luthor to convince him to join them. Bizzaro asked for a race and if he won he would join the society.

Its not because Bizzaro was just as fast or faster than Zoom, but rather Zoom always wanted to make it close to Bizzaro would join them and the race was made such that it would please Bizzaro.

@Killemall: Ah, so Zoom threw the match. Alright, thanks -- saw the scans, apparently they were out of context.

Bizarro is, however, still at Superman-levels of speed. I.e. faster than Thor.

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@jeanroygrant: So BRB rushes Bizarro with planet busting attacks. *nods* Smash, smash, smash, with dat big 'ol hammer.

Except that it does absolutely nothing at all, because one of Bizarro's powers is "Invulnerability". Not high durability. Invulnerability. I've never seen Bizarro actually get harmed by anything, he has no vulnerability to magic and I'm pretty sure BRB doesn't have blue kryptonite or any sort of energy replication. This occurs:

With BRB in place of Diana.

Bizarro has Superman's strength, without holding back. Which is what, like 40 octillion tons or something ludicrous like that? A single hit from Bizarro, at full-force, is probably going to decapitate Beta Ray Bill.

Thor has drawn the short stick, however. He gets to tangle something worse than Bizarro -- Black Adam. With Captain Marvel being approximately on par with Superman, and Black Adam being significantly more powerful than Billy, he was actually a global threat during the 52 story arc. Hal, John, and Kyle together fled when he showed up and said "stop that". Power Girl turned tail and ran when he showed up and said "stop that". None of DC's great heroes dare piss him off because he is exactly that badass. Black Adam has immense levels of power, in speed and strength both, and he's going to show Thor what getting struck by thunder really feels like when he calls down a Shazam bolt and incinerates him.

@jeanroygrant:

Black Adam defeating the entire Doom Patrol by himself.

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@jeanroygrant: Black Adam's lightning is not real lightning. It is pure (and immensely powerful, considering Shazam battled the Spectre, who as Ralph Dibny stated is the most powerful entity on DC earth) magic.

And Superman (and by association, Bizarro) can also destroy planets. Supes does it here with his HEAT VISION.

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Also, actually, i think supes is flying into the planet there. The red streak isn't HV, it is him as a red blur.

Superman (by extension, Bizarro) survives being crushed between two planets.

GO GO POWER RANGERS!!! *shakes pom-poms*

Superman survives a supernova.

Oh, also, if Biz is allowed to leave the arena he can find a blue sun and sundip.

In which case he solos.

Blue sundipped Bizarro > Yellow sundipped Superman.

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@jeanroygrant: Just throwing out general durability feats. Bizarro's powers are that he is Superman, simply with a few reversed powers such as flame breath and ice vision.

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@jeanroygrant: Alright then. I generally think of them as identical Thors anyway. Still doesn't mean either one can or will defeat Bizarro, since they won't.

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whered u find those little sprite pics of those heroes and villains?

Is it to late to pic sides...

Im on Joygirls side...

*Go sits in her corner*

Go JG!

Dont hurt me..

@jeanroygrant: What would BRB's answer to freeze vision be?

Bizarro trashes WW yet again, proving he is her forever superior.

@18hunt said:

whered u find those little sprite pics of those heroes and villains?

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/

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@jeanroygrant: Yeah, I am popular. :P

How would it absorb it? It absorbs energy?

Black Adam curbstomps Martian Manhunter.

@jeanroygrant said:

@Joygirl said:

@jeanroygrant: So BRB rushes Bizarro with planet busting attacks. *nods* Smash, smash, smash, with dat big 'ol hammer.

Except that it does absolutely nothing at all, because one of Bizarro's powers is "Invulnerability". Not high durability. Invulnerability. I've never seen Bizarro actually get harmed by anything, he has no vulnerability to magic and I'm pretty sure BRB doesn't have blue kryptonite or any sort of energy replication. This occurs:

Just to point out, that scan is non-cannon. Wonder-Woman has held her own against a Blood-lusted Superman who thought she was Doomsday, so I don't think Bizzaro would Roflstomp her like people say.

@Jokergeist said:

GO GO POWER RANGERS!!! *shakes pom-poms*

You forgot your signature ;-D.

@Joygirl said:

Bizarro trashes WW yet again, proving he is her forever superior.

Also Non-Cannon.

@laflux: Well, doesn't matter, since I just posted another where he beats her once more.

@laflux: Dammit, ninja'd, also where is all this non-canon stuff coming from?

@Joygirl: Sorry I didn't that one, but its also Non-Cannon as well.

But please, continue :)

Black Adam vs. all of the Teen Titans. Black Adam wins, slaughtering Terra in the process and ripping Frankenstein's arms off.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588351-racerx_wwiiib3_p14_15.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588354-racerx_wwiiib3_p16.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588355-racerx_wwiiib3_p17.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588356-racerx_wwiiib3_p18.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588341-ba_vs_tt_1.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588342-ba_vs_tt_2.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588343-ba_vs_tt_3.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/125513/2588344-ba_vs_tt_4.jpg

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Hah we just posted the same scan. XD So yeah, Thor can react to him. So could Martian Manhunter, but it didn't stop Adam from Shazaming him down.

@jeanroygrant: The scan I showed was ww3, which was in 2006 I believe. From the scan you showed it was a good bit older, so more recent takes precedence I do believe. He was very strong in that arc.

And PIS or not, those fights happened. he defeated the entire TT at once and was beating down a multitude of powerful heroes, and stomped MMH in 1-on-1. These scans are consistent with what he was doing at the time.

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They specifically say there are people stronger and faster than him. It is his ferocity and his willingness to destroy that made him such a threat. I don't really think it's possible to wave off an entire event helmed by four different writers as PIS -- and we don't know the context behind the Atom Smasher thing. Who knows what could have happened before or after it.

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