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#1 Edited by Fetts (4409 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules: 
-As stated, this is a H2H combat match. Thor is de-powered and is just as strong and durable as Slade.
-Morals off. 
-Random encounter. 
-Location: 

  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
vs 

#2 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Eh, if Thor is still class 100+ and has his regular durability there's not much point in it. Slade would break his hand trying to hurt him.
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#3 Posted by Afro_Warrior (1120 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fetts:

You should de-power Thor, to Deathstroke level physical abilities, otherwise Slade has no chance.

#4 Posted by Fetts (4409 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_: What if he did something intelligent like a nerve strike? Or would that even work?
#5 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

Poor poor Slade

#6 Posted by Fetts (4409 posts) - - Show Bio
@Afro_Warrior: Hhhmmm. Very well.
#7 Posted by Fetts (4409 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante@Morpheus_: I edited it. Better?
#8 Posted by SC (12698 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Thor have blood? If he does he can bleed. If he talks? He has a throat? If he has a throat? He can have it cut. Slade makes Thor choke on his own blood via throat slitting. Thor's only chance for victory is if he spits his own blood at Slade's one eye just like they do in porn. Then when Slade is trying to wipe the blood out of his eye Thor gives him an Asgardian Pile Driver. Except except Deathstroke can fight with his eye closed, so if he starts the fight with his eye closed he wins. Eye open he loses. As simple as that. 

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#9 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fetts said:
@Morpheus_: What if he did something intelligent like a nerve strike? Or would that even work?
I would imagine that for a nerve strike to work on Thor, the character attempting it would still require a degree of sufficient superhuman strength for the application of the strike to have an effect. And that kind of strength is something Slade severely lacks. He doesn't really use nerve strikes, either.
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#10 Posted by Joygirl (18505 posts) - - Show Bio

With depowered Thor I'll say Death Strokanoff.

#11 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Slade would now have a slight edge, but Thor is still a beast when it comes to h2h.

#12 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC said:
Thor's only chance for victory is if he spits his own blood at Slade's one eye just like they do in porn.

Now I know where Gail Simone ripped that move off.
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#13 Posted by yumyumbubblegum (618 posts) - - Show Bio

So you want Donald Blake to go up against Slade? WTH is this?

#14 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

@yumyumbubblegum: Thor is still a very capable warrior and would give Slade a very hard time.

#15 Posted by SC (12698 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
@SC said:
Thor's only chance for victory is if he spits his own blood at Slade's one eye just like they do in porn.

Now I know where Gail Simone ripped that move off.
 
  
Gail Simone is a very deviant minded person. I would not be surprised if all her comic book plots were ripped straight from the Best of Ron Jeremy Selection. Not that I disapprove. Its something I think we should all endorse as long as she stops playing favorites. 
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#16 Posted by Nefarious (18677 posts) - - Show Bio

Even when de-powered, Thor would be-head him with absolute ease.

#17 Posted by yumyumbubblegum (618 posts) - - Show Bio

@angryvigilante said:

@yumyumbubblegum: Thor is still a very capable warrior and would give Slade a very hard time.

Not if he's the crippled Don Blake.

#18 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still giving this to thor. I scanned some thor feats h2h in thor vs tony starks thread ... and I still think w/ 1000's of years of fighting and some of his h2h feats depowered he would be able to take deathstroke in a hard fought battle.

#19 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2174 posts) - - Show Bio

Thousands of years of combat experience can equal hand-to-hand capability despite the quantity of display, thus I give my vote to Thor, believing him to be the more prominent fighter.

#20 Edited by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke EASY, SLAUGHTERHOUSE, CURBSTOMP, OMGBBQWTFPWND

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#21 Posted by Afro_Warrior (1120 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fetts:

That's a better balance.

With that said i think Slade takes this, Thor is reasonable warrior, but i haven't seen him pull of any H2H feats that would constitute a win for him.

Slade it is.

#22 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

When h2h feats involve taking a few fodder thugs (street level 101) and thousands of years of experience involves overpowering dumb@ss monsters with a plot device hammer and superior stats, that doesn't equal superior h2h skills. Thor has done nothing to say he is better Slade at all in h2h combat.

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#23 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (764 posts) - - Show Bio

deathstoke's bones would shatter in so many places after hitting thor

#24 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fetts: Is slade keeping his powers?

#25 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (764 posts) - - Show Bio

People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet

#26 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn said:

When h2h feats involve taking a few fodder thugs (street level 101) and thousands of years of experience involves overpowering dumb@ss monsters with a plot device hammer and superior stats, that doesn't equal superior h2h skills. Thor has done nothing to say he is better Slade at all in h2h combat.

WE'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEEEEEARS.
#27 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

People are implying Thor is powered up when the OP says he is depowered to Slade's level.

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#28 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch: It's like people saying Ares is more skilled than Wolverine all over again.

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#29 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn: haha I know, I'm just waiting for someone to post that scan of a de-powered Thor fighting a bunch of zombie warriors (or whatever they are) and claim that's why he's so good in h2h. 
#30 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, and I forgot to post this: 

#31 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@god_spawn: haha I know, I'm just waiting for someone to post that scan of a de-powered Thor fighting a bunch of zombie warriors (or whatever they are) and claim that's why he's so good in h2h.

Or beating Sif in a sword fight from centuries ago. He has a hammer in that fight IRCC, so technically it would be moot lol.

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#32 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9438 posts) - - Show Bio

What fighting skill has Thor ever shown? 1000 years of experience is useless when he's never shown any skill to begin with

#33 Posted by SC (12698 posts) - - Show Bio

The thing with Thor and skills is that he's........ a fictional character.  
 
If writers emphasized his skill with accuracy instead of with the interest of balance they would literally rip the point of stories in two. I mean back when Thor didn't interact with many characters he had the type of accuracy to loop the tip of Washington Monument and settle it back in its place. Applies to all characters ever. The thing with skill is knowing when and how to apply it. Now Hercules has been depowered his skill feats have been slowly building up. Actual skill >> applied skill. This is why absence of evidence not being evidence of absence is laughed at in discussions where accuracy is preferred instead of easiness. So Thor's lack of is actually a mutually inclusive argument that works both ways. 

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#34 Posted by Fetts (4409 posts) - - Show Bio
@sandiego008: Yes.
#35 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fetts: Are all of Thor's stats on par with Slade or at least strength and durability?

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#36 Posted by PikminMania (4628 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supreme Cosmic said:

deathstoke's bones would shatter in so many places after hitting thor

@Supreme Cosmic said:

People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet

  1. Read the rules. Thor doesn't get his powers.
  2. Deathstroke could punch Thor in a nerve strike that is more deadly than a speeding bullet.
#37 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn said:

@Fetts: Are all of Thor's stats on par with Slade or at least strength and durability?

That's what the OP says. 
#38 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch: It just says strength, I figured they are anyway, it's just idk why people are still assuming Slade would break his hand on him when common sense should make it obvious. I just want a clarification.

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#39 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn: Because Thor fans refuse to accept the idea of a de-powered Thor.  
 
I remember an older thread where the OP clearly stated Thor was de-powered and could use his hammer only as a weapon, yet one guy was saying he always gets his powers from his hammer no matter what, so he would automatically win.  
 
Madness. 
#40 Posted by Mercy_ (92548 posts) - - Show Bio

Can you just specify one thing. When you say depowered to Slade's level, does that include his Asgardian durability and such?

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#41 Posted by Fetts (4409 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn: Yes in this thread Thor is de-powered so that his strength and durability are the same as Slade's. Sorry about that. I'll make that clearer. 
#42 Posted by SC (12698 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:
@god_spawn: Because Thor fans refuse to accept the idea of a de-powered Thor.   I remember an older thread where the OP clearly stated Thor was de-powered and could use his hammer only as a weapon, yet one guy was saying he always gets his powers from his hammer no matter what, so he would automatically win.   Madness. 
 
THB, i don't think thats Thor fans. That's a particular type of ALL fans. I remember that thread your talking about, and the OP was trying to create a balanced thread but some posters were more concerned about who would win and then reverse engineering the why and how lol 
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#43 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC: haha okay, maybe I shouldn't have singled out just Thor fans. By the way, Last Dragon avatar = AMAZING. 
#44 Posted by SC (12698 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:
@SC: haha okay, maybe I shouldn't have singled out just Thor fans. By the way, Last Dragon avatar = AMAZING. 
 
Cheers boss. Oh and I certainly empathize with you. Threads like these get tricky in my opinion, since some fans will view depowered as pretty different. That's how we ended up with that last poster who thought Thor with "no powers" was Thor with 100 class strength or whatever lol
 
Maybe its easier to pretend Slade's physical attributes are increased to match Thor's? Changing a characters powers would just generally screw with a characters head. Its like if a normal dude woke up tomorrow and had a baby's strength. 
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#45 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC: Hah I dunno, Slade with Thor's physical attributes is a terrifying concept to grasp. 
#46 Posted by SC (12698 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch:  Then the tricky part... would writers in such a story actually write him like he was as skilled as ever or would he start jobbing lol  
 
 
 
 
 
Anyway to thread I give this to Deathstroke. He relies on his skills and hand to hand abilities more, they are more refined and honed. He'll be in his element. Even if Thor was as skilled as him regardless of feats, you just took a 2000 year old plus character and weakened him in a way that is like taking a fully grown adult and depowering him to infant level strength and durability (relativity)  Deathstroke should win until like Thor has time to climatize to his new levels. (then it might be closer) DS majority. 
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#47 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (764 posts) - - Show Bio

@PikminMania said:

@Supreme Cosmic said:

deathstoke's bones would shatter in so many places after hitting thor

@Supreme Cosmic said:

People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet

  1. Read the rules. Thor doesn't get his powers.
  2. Deathstroke could punch Thor in a nerve strike that is more deadly than a speeding bullet.

I can see that it would have helped lol My bad fellows

#48 Posted by jashro44 (19594 posts) - - Show Bio
@PikminMania said:

@Supreme Cosmic said:

deathstoke's bones would shatter in so many places after hitting thor

@Supreme Cosmic said:

People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet

  1. Read the rules. Thor doesn't get his powers.
  2. Deathstroke could punch Thor in a nerve strike that is more deadly than a speeding bullet.
Not necessary if there in the same strength class deathstorke wont need nerve clusters. Deathstroke stomps him in this scenario.
#49 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fetts: With his powers thor loses quite badly ... I for whatever dumb reason assumed even grounds no precog .. Deathstroke does take this easily ... I was unclear on OP ...

@texasdeathmatch said:

Oh, and I forgot to post this:

Mantis wrecks thor ... moot point ... just because people don't know her doesn't mean she is IMO out of his league.

If you are going to depower an opponent in a battle I think one needs to be very precise on the battle rules as I tend to think battle is even. Which I was wrong here and in thor vs tony starks ... both beat thor as they are given a huge advantage ... but I assumed incorrectly on how the OP wanted the battle to go. I admit I was wrong on both accounts ... but I also thought they were on even fighting grounds ... both not true.

#50 Posted by entropy_aegis (14234 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supreme Cosmic said:

People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet

Batman hits as hard as a bazzoka.