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#1 Edited by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

None of them have any weapons, Deathstroke doesn't have his enhancements or his armor. The fight takes place in an average residential street, middle of the night, no pedestrians walking in the street and no cars on the road (there are cars parking at the sides of the road though). Deathstroke wins if he kills both Rorschach and The Punisher and vice versa.

So we have a very good fighter (Rorschach) and a great fighter (Punisher) teamed up against an amazing fighter (Deathstroke). Who... Is... DEADLIEST?!

#2 Posted by Bronze_Surfer (2984 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by SheenLantern (6806 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke destroys them with both hands tied behind his back

#4 Posted by DeathSamurai (537 posts) - - Show Bio

team

#5 Edited by SheenLantern (6806 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Posted by RenaissanceMan (1096 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade wins

#7 Edited by nickthedevil (13264 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade in a stomp.

#8 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Edited by Nefarious (21316 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade curbstomp.

#10 Edited by DeathSamurai (537 posts) - - Show Bio

everyone always low balls punisher, so sad :(

#11 Posted by alternative_backup (647 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke would win, he is a better fighter than Rorschach and The Punisher.

#12 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorshach broke a toilet, putting his kicks at strong enough to one-shot Deathstroke.

#13 Posted by SheenLantern (6806 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathsamurai said:

everyone always low balls punisher, so sad :(

Exactly how could he possibly beat Slade on his own? Since Rorschach is a non-factor.

#14 Edited by nickzambuto (14152 posts) - - Show Bio

Something like this could potentially be a good idea, except Rorschach is just a little too unskilled and Deathstroke is just a little too enhanced.

#15 Edited by dondave (38586 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke ftw

#16 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade is a teambuster, these two teamed up will only play into his hand. That and he is way way way more skilled than either of them indvidually.

Slade FTW!

@thedarklordpandamonium Wait...what? Did I really see your post as saying...**cough cough** Rorschach could **cough cough** one shot **coughs up blood** Slade? I think I am gonna be sick.

#17 Posted by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

Something like this could potentially be a good idea, except Rorschach is just a little too unskilled and Deathstroke is just a little too enhanced.

Assume Slade doesn't have his special enhancements for this fight.

And Rorschach isn't THAT bad...

#18 Posted by ferventking (259 posts) - - Show Bio

Without enhancements and weapons, DS should still win here. Too skilled against Punisher who is average at h2h (compared to other heroes) and Rorshach.

#19 Edited by nickzambuto (14152 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

Something like this could potentially be a good idea, except Rorschach is just a little too unskilled and Deathstroke is just a little too enhanced.

Assume Slade doesn't have his special enhancements for this fight.

And Rorschach isn't THAT bad...

Rorschach isn't necessarily bad, he just doesn't have feats to say he can tangle with big time comic book characters.

#20 Posted by OptimusPalm (1803 posts) - - Show Bio
@nerdork said:

Slade is a teambuster, these two teamed up will only play into his hand. That and he is way way way more skilled than either of them indvidually.

Slade FTW!

@thedarklordpandamonium Wait...what? Did I really see your post as saying...**cough cough** Rorschach could **cough cough** one shot **coughs up blood** Slade? I think I am gonna be sick.

I think we all know that in terms of durability, Toilet>Deathstroke....

#21 Posted by russellmania77 (15679 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: hahahahahaha XD so why couldn't he one shot ozy?

Deathstroke without physical enhancements is still skilled beyond these two

#22 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@optimuspalm: Oh yeah, I forgot that Deathstroke routinely gets destroyed by street levelers wielding instruments made from porcelain.

#23 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: ye.

But seriously, a toilet isn't easy to break, and Rorshach shattered it in one kick.

#24 Posted by RenaissanceMan (1096 posts) - - Show Bio

Well if he was fighting a toilet I'd give him the advantage here

#25 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: Okay, I can tell that you are not too well versed on Slade Wilson. No fault of yours. But, Spiderman wouldnt be able to one shot Deathstroke, unless he was fairly bloodlusted. Rorschach wouldnt even be able to pace Slade, let alone land one of those toilet shattering kicks. Slade's armor is also more durable than a toilet bowl. OP says no weapons, doesnt say anything about no armor. Even without his enhancements, Deathstroke is still on par, physically, with the likes of Batman.

#26 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: whaaaat

if there's armor I call nonsense because new 52 deathstroke's armor resisted punches from Lobo; no way either Punisher or Rorshach could faze him.

#27 Posted by OptimusPalm (1803 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: ye.

But seriously, a toilet isn't easy to break, and Rorshach shattered it in one kick.

A toilet isnt easy to break? LOL having done a lot of building work in the last 15 years, alot of which has been doing up Bathrooms, i can tell you that i could kick a toilet to pieces. Maybe i couldnt totally shatter it with just one kick. I dont think its an impressive feat for Rorshach, when it wouldnt really be an impressive feat for a normal human with zero fighting skills other than what i've used in the playground 20 years ago!

#28 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium said:

@nerdork: whaaaat

if there's armor I call nonsense because new 52 deathstroke's armor resisted punches from Lobo; no way either Punisher or Rorshach could faze him.

Partially my point for this being completely in Slade's favor.

#29 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@optimuspalm: Oh.

Damn google search. Unreliable af.

Not like it matters; Nth metal armor is op.

#30 Edited by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: looks like the game is back on. How durable is Slade, exactly, now?

#32 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: No one has armor? Slade still wins, not a complete crush, but still a good stomp.

#33 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: Durability has nothing to do with this. Seeing that neither Punisher or Rorschach are on par with top tier street levelers, Slade will beat them down pretty hard. Like I said, even without enhancements, armor or weapons, Slade is still a complete match for Batman and Captain America. Deathstroke absolutely outclasses Team mid-tier (Punisher) and low-tier (Rorschach).

Deathstroke FTW!!!

#34 Posted by Pokeysteve (8425 posts) - - Show Bio

Have we ever seen an enhancmentless Slade?

#35 Edited by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

Have we ever seen an enhancmentless Slade?

Yes, pretty sure we have.

#36 Posted by Dratini1331 (7028 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: In this scenario, Deathstroke is the spartan, the team is the ninja. Team gets face rolled.

#37 Posted by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: In this scenario, Deathstroke is the spartan, the team is the ninja. Team gets face rolled.

That episode was bullcrap if you ask me.

#38 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: **off topic** I agree, a ninja is not going to attack someone in broad daylight, out in the open, when the enemy knows they are coming. In a face to face fight...yes, a spartan wins, but a ninja in all reality would have been hiding in the trees and hit him in the neck with a poisoned dart...or something of the like.

**on topic** Slade wins

#39 Posted by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

@the_red_viper: **off topic** I agree, a ninja is not going to attack someone in broad daylight, out in the open, when the enemy knows they are coming. In a face to face fight...yes, a spartan wins, but a ninja in all reality would have been hiding in the trees and hit him in the neck with a poisoned dart...or something of the like.

**on topic** Slade wins

Exactly

#40 Posted by Dratini1331 (7028 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: Ninjas were not usually professionally trained, and the word ninja just means spy. Most were poor farmers and weren't properly trained for H2H which is what they really test (lord knows they can't test anything else, that program was not that sophisticated). In H2H, the spartan should've won by a huge margin. I mean, they used a ninjato, which isn't even a real thing =/ But yeah, every episode of that was bs, but it was extremely enjoyable bs. As a matter of fact, some of the "experts" have come out saying most of the show is scripted and that the producers just sort of pick a winner in some cases. They also clearly fudge some numbers.

I remember watching the Rangers vs N. Korea one. They gave the N. Koreans the edge in H2H, but at the end they showed the numbers and the rangers had a higher H2H number. They also suck at analyzing most of the stuff. It was still super entertaining though.

#41 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: But yeah, every episode of that was bs, but it was extremely enjoyable bs.

Well said! I heartily agree.

#42 Posted by _Cerberus_ (3448 posts) - - Show Bio

No enhancements?

Team 2 wins but barely.

#43 Posted by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: Ninjas were not usually professionally trained, and the word ninja just means spy. Most were poor farmers and weren't properly trained for H2H which is what they really test (lord knows they can't test anything else, that program was not that sophisticated). In H2H, the spartan should've won by a huge margin. I mean, they used a ninjato, which isn't even a real thing =/ But yeah, every episode of that was bs, but it was extremely enjoyable bs. As a matter of fact, some of the "experts" have come out saying most of the show is scripted and that the producers just sort of pick a winner in some cases. They also clearly fudge some numbers.

I remember watching the Rangers vs N. Korea one. They gave the N. Koreans the edge in H2H, but at the end they showed the numbers and the rangers had a higher H2H number. They also suck at analyzing most of the stuff. It was still super entertaining though.

The 3rd season isn't as BS-ish as the first two, and is my favorite season.

Anyhow, the ninja they tested in that episode wasn't the untrained farmer you speak of, but a classic, trained, killing-machine ninja. And I'm pretty sure ninjatos are real things, lol

But yeah, I really love that show :D

#44 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@_cerberus_: Please....without enhancements, Slade is still completely on par with the Bats (w/o gear) and Cap (w/o shield). His enhancements and gear are what put him over top tier street levelers, and makes him a high-level team buster. The team here is a mid-tier (Castle) and low-tier (Kovacs) street level duo, and that plays out perfectly for the way Slade fights. This will not be a complete stomp, but Slade wins handily.

#45 Edited by Dratini1331 (7028 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper:

Because of the lack of any physical evidence or antique swords from the Sengoku period to the Edo period (16th to 19th century) matching the description of the ninjatō,[1] the history of the weapon can only be reliably chronicled from the 20th century onwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjat%C5%8D

The ninjato is a terrible weapon. It's straight edge makes it flimsy, hard to draw quickly, and less lethal than the weapons it's modeled after. It was introduced in the 20th century by filmmakers as the "ninja weapon of choice" and it's been confused as an actual thing for a while now. The actual weapons they would've used in the ninjato's stead would've been a wakizashi, or short sword. Ninjatos are not real. Sorry to spoil it for you =(

#46 Posted by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

@_cerberus_: Please....without enhancements, Slade is still completely on par with the Bats (w/o gear) and Cap (w/o shield). His enhancements and gear are what put him over top tier street levelers, and makes him a high-level team buster. The team here is a mid-tier (Castle) and low-tier (Kovacs) street level duo, and that plays out perfectly for the way Slade fights. This will not be a complete stomp, but Slade wins handily.

Slade is on par with Bruce but Cap still beats him. He's genetically enhanced. Slade is clearly the better martial artist but Cap's enhancements give him an edge that an un-enhanced Slade can't beat IMO.

#47 Edited by The_Red_Viper (4167 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper:

Because of the lack of any physical evidence or antique swords from the Sengoku period to the Edo period (16th to 19th century) matching the description of the ninjatō,[1] the history of the weapon can only be reliably chronicled from the 20th century onwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjat%C5%8D

The ninjato is a terrible weapon. It's straight edge makes it flimsy, hard to draw quickly, and less lethal than the weapons it's modeled after. It was introduced in the 20th century by filmmakers as the "ninja weapon of choice" and it's been confused as an actual thing for a while now. The actual weapons they would've used in the ninjato's stead would've been a wakizashi, or short sword. Ninjatos are not real. Sorry to spoil it for you =(

Aww... :(

Still, the ninja they tested should have won =P

#48 Posted by Dratini1331 (7028 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: hehehe. I have evolved into dragonair, ruiner of hopes, crusher of dreams. lol

#49 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_viper: I agree that in 1v1 against Cap (no shield), and Slade w/o enhancements, that a majority goes to Capo; but, how much of a majority is going to be the debatable point. I hate to use ABC logic, but if Bats can hang with Cap, Slade should be able to as well. I would absolutely call a non-enhanced Slade a peak human.

#50 Edited by _Cerberus_ (3448 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: Nah Dead Stroke with out his enhancements is not stomping them, Punisher already has had experience with enhanced humans I'm sure a non enhanced human won't be too hard for him to beat.