Deathstroke vs Flash(CW Versions)

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Deathstroke

• On mirakuru
• Morals off, with intent to kill.
• Has his suit, with standard equipment.(Guns and a sword.)

Flash

• In character, morals on, with intent to subdue Slade without killing.
• Has his suit.

Rules

1. Random encounter.
2. Barry cannot leave more than 20m away from the battlefield.
3. No BFR.
4. Battle takes place in a dark alley of the streets of Gotham.

Who takes this battle?

Barry can´t put down Slade. Slade wins he will eventually tag Barry.

This is ironic because in the comic world people constantly bring up ''Deathstroke beating Flash''.

Anyway Flash wins.

Well the only thing I think that Barry could use is the super sonic punch.

Flash

Flash.

From the fight I saw yesterday vs Arrow, Barry has absolutely zero chance here.

Maybe later in the show.

Right now, he punched 50 times Oliver in a couple of sec, without any damage...

Is CW Flash really this weak?

That was PIS. Barry has already punched harder than that.

@ordinaryalan: yes.

You may dislike it. I understand that for you it didn't make any sense.

But it was Flash, bloodlusted and really trying to hurt Oliver. It did happen. You can't call it PIS, ignore it and then speculate that Barry could handle Slate.

For the moment, Deathstroke wins.

@bullpr: It can be called PIS. The 50 punch thing makes little sense.

It was for the plot. I can point you out Barry punching stronger than that, and that also happened. So why does the feat with Oliver has more validity than the others feats that the Flash has punching harder than that?

Flash loses, he had trouble taking down a guy who could turn into metal, and the guy had no problem tagging Flash. Maybe later when the Flash gets more skilled with his powers he could beat Slade.

He was off his game mentally - we know mental state affects barry a lot.

Without plot, deathstroke is not tagging barry, ever.

But it happened.

I personally called PIS the moment where Barry was able to hurt "Colossus" while the simulation ran a few minutes earlier showed that his whole body would be disintegrated if he were to try to punch him at this speed. They spoke about striking a particular point, with a precise angle, to avoid that. But never explained how to find it and how Barry was able to touch it.

What is consistent for the moment is Barry being very weak in H2H, having no striking strength and he should lose, badly against Deathstroke.

The 50 punches with no affect is totally consistent with all the feats since the beginning of the show. Except this one Punch at suprasonic velocity, that came from nowhere, and without a good explanation.

I disagree with the analysis calling PIS the fight vs Arrow while it's clearly in line with mostly all what he has done since the start of the season.

That's because of either joking or fanwanking. Flash wins there and he wins here.

He was very angry, yes. How do you know how anger is affecting his speed?

What we know for the moment is that when his power got a reboot in the previous episode, he needed to be emotionally challenged to be fully in control again.

To jump from that to "he got tagged by Oliver because he was angry" is pure speculation.

And Arrow didn't really tag him, he use his environment and the lack of Barry's experience.

Remember: Barry: "you missed". Oliver: "No I didn't".

Strategy at its most simple. Slade can do that or better.

The Flash loses for the moment.

No Actually the last episode he punched way harder than that. (Remember when he punched the boxing bag with Eddie behind and he broke the Boxing bag and hurted Eddie pretty bad) So it is not an isolated thing.

@bullpr:

He was very angry, yes. How do you know how anger is affecting his speed?

The fact that his mental state can completely shut his powers off. Or the fact that when he's at full power, everything is literally standing still for his perception, and oliver was still moving..

What we know for the moment is that when his power got a reboot in the previous episode, he needed to be emotionally challenged to be fully in control again.

Again, showing

To jump from that to "he got tagged by Oliver because he was angry" is pure speculation.

No, it isn't. By all means, explain why barry was not seeing oliver as standing still when he's quite capable of doing that since first few episodes.

And Arrow didn't really tag him, he use his environment and the lack of Barry's experience.

Remember: Barry: "you missed". Oliver: "No I didn't".

Strategy at its most simple. Slade can do that or better.

And how is he going to use the said strategy? When flash is not hindered by plot, he could literally kill slade before he even starts to move his arm.

The Flash loses for the moment.

If he's hindered by either plot or mental state. Otherwise, he stomps pretty casually.

@princearagorn1: Ok. I see your point. I have to think about it.

Good point.

Both @black_arrow and @princearagorn1: you probably made me change my mind.

I will watch this episode again with my kids this week end. If I think about it I'll come back to this thread with your inputs in my mind (punch too weak and people not standing)

Slade, Barry isn't trying to kill, and his reaction time is terrible, and he's a chump in h2h especially since Slade is wearing body armor.

Flash stomps hard without plot to back Deathstroke.

Slade catches Arrows as fast as Flash!

I was about to say that.

Slade shoots him in the head and kills him.

Depends on how smart Barry fights

Lol, no.

@comicace3: bro fist

Yes.

Barry

He's not going to hurt Slade. He has little physical strength it appears, and Slade is pretty well protected and is already durable.

He'll eventually get tired, and the moment he does, Slade slaughters.

Could go either way for me. Slade for skill, Barry for speed.

Slade.

Flash SHOULD win. But the writers wouldn't let him.

Slade

Those damn Flash writers obviously hate Flash with such a burning passion.

Flash, Arrow won because he had prep and detail information about Barry's power set something Slade doesn't have in this match.

He had about 1 minute of prep and Barry's super speed isn't that hard to figure out.

Flash loses via pis

Flash.

Slade

Slade curbstomps

Slade Wilstomp.

The assumption is Arrow tagged Flash so Slade can? This is basically Deadshot tagging speedsters, but that doesn't mean he would would beat a legit speedster on a battle thread.

Sort of like Spiderman beating Electro, that doesn't mean in a serious discussion he would come close to winning.

Flash Stomps.

Flash should win but with cw I wouldn't be surprised if Deathstroke one shotted him.

Remember super sonic punch?

Slade

the flash wins easily.