Deathstroke/Deadshot vs Ult. Captain America/Winter Soldier

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Winner by KO, incapacitation or death

random encounter

composite Post Crisis and New 52 DC team

Pre Original Sin Winter Soldier

Opponents are 25 feet from each other with plenty of cover

fight takes place at an unpopulated city setting at night

Who'd win? For what reasons?

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Ult. Cap & Wintersoldier.

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Deathstroke & Deadshot.

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@impervious: Slade & Floyd are faster, have greater destructive capacity (Floyd's leveled buildings), Slade is comparable to Cap in strength, both are better marksmen than Bucky, Slade's just as skilled H2H, & I think that covers it.

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team 1

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Floyed is a non factor, Ultimate Cap beats DS. Team Marvel handily.

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ultimates win

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Ultimate Cap and Bucky.

Deathstroke skates by in most fights because of the fact 616 Cap plays nice. This Cap tanks hits from Abomination and Hulk consistently and kills pretty much anybody who engages with him. He's also stomped Ultimate Hawkeye who is likely as good or better a shot then Deadshot. DC guys are simply outmatched here.

Bucky should be able to hold his own with Deadshot until he gets an assist.

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Team 1

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@risingbean:

This Cap tanks hits from Abomination and Hulk consistently

He tanks kitten scratches from these guys. They could both paste him with a hit if they wanted to.

He's also stomped Ultimate Hawkeye who is likely as good or better a shot then Deadshot.

Is this referring to that one panel where he just charges at him shooting willy nilly with tranqs?

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@risingbean:

This Cap tanks hits from Abomination and Hulk consistently

He tanks kitten scratches from these guys. They could both paste him with a hit if they wanted to.

He's also stomped Ultimate Hawkeye who is likely as good or better a shot then Deadshot.

Is this referring to that one panel where he just charges at him shooting willy nilly with tranqs?

Yet Cap got right back up and beat the Colonel after this. I wouldn't call that a kitten scratch.

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Yeah, I'm talking of the time Cap deflected tranq darts back at Clint. I wouldn't call his shooting willy nilly. Clint shot in a burst hoping to hit him with something. Clint's shots are all pretty much dead on. Steve was just too fast in deflecting with his shield. A nice skill to have when dealing with shooters of Ultimate Hawkeye, or say Deadshot's skill level.

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Ultimate Cap and Bucky.

Deathstroke skates by in most fights because of the fact 616 Cap plays nice. This Cap tanks hits from Abomination and Hulk consistently and kills pretty much anybody who engages with him. He's also stomped Ultimate Hawkeye who is likely as good or better a shot then Deadshot. DC guys are simply outmatched here.

Bucky should be able to hold his own with Deadshot until he gets an assist.

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@risingbean: Well he did say "all yours" which implies he was holding back. And Ult. Hulk isn't nearly as powerful as his 616 counterpart. Still decent blunt damage showing though.

Clint's shots are all pretty much dead on. Steve was just too fast in deflecting with his shield. A nice skill to have when dealing with shooters of Ultimate Hawkeye, or say Deadshot's skill level.

Sure except Deadshot most likely won't just charge his opponent down. He also has large explosives to throw off cap and keep up the pressure.

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#18  Edited By SirBaronOBeefdip

Deathstroke and deadshot. Deadshot would probably die towards the end of the fight but Slade has enough to finish both of them.

That Deathstroke picture is also my phone background. Since everyone was totally interested.

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@eisenfauste: I took it to imply that Abomination was moving on, leaving his boss to deal with his grudge. Cap's a known superman in this universe. The fight where Hulk was beating on him was caught on film and sold very well. As a matter of Stark notes it sold 15 million DVD's in the next issue. Abomination would know Cap is super durable having tanked Hulk punches and have no reason to hold back.

As far as explosives, Cap also uses guns and explosives and can beat feet. With a 25 foot starting distance there is a good chance Cap overruns Deadshot with a quickness and one shots him. If Cap does meet up with Slade, then he's probably not going to chuck bombs. And lets not forget Bucky. Dudes no slouch.

If I had money on either side, I'd run with the good guys here.

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@risingbean:

I took it to imply that Abomination was moving on, leaving his boss to deal with his grudge. Cap's a known superman in this universe. The fight where Hulk was beating on him was caught on film and sold very well. As a matter of Stark notes it sold 15 million DVD's in the next issue. Abomination would know Cap is super durable having tanked Hulk punches and have no reason to hold back.

He's durable but no way can he survive hits from a class 100 going all out. I believe in the same universe he faced a 10-20 tonner? And was getting the sh*t kicked out of him in only a few blows. That may be the 616 verse not positive so don't quote me on it. But yeah he hasn't shown the durability to practically no sell, he wasn't even bloodied, a class 100 punch or punches.

With a 25 foot starting distance there is a good chance Cap overruns Deadshot with a quickness and one shots him

The only problem is that Deadshot has heightened perception enough to see a hummingbird's wing beats in slow motion. He should be able to dodge Cap and put some shots in his feet and alternate between high and low. But yeah he could still be taken out.

The main problem here is Slade is composite which depending on this he could have his bo-staff and Nth metal armor. Even if he doesn't he should be fast enough to kill bucky and move on to Ult. Cap.

Honestly I don't want to take sides on this fight though I do believe deadshot is a weak link, Slade's sheer speed, durability, and skill could outweigh that.