Deathstroke & Black Manta vs Captain Cold & Bane

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#1  Edited By bigcimmerian

- All are current versions, but you can use Pre Flashpoint feats for Cold and he's without ice powers

- 3 days prep, full info about opponents, in character

- It's been a while since I made battle thread and I missed it lol, who wins and why?

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I don't see how Deathstroke or Manta could get through the Cold Field - even with prep.

Currently my vote is for Team 2 - but maybe someone can surprise me.

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Cold can solo.

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#5  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@thetruebarryallen said:

I don't see how Deathstroke or Manta could get through the Cold Field - even with prep.

Currently my vote is for Team 2 - but maybe someone can surprise me.

...the OP said "without ice powers" for Captain Cold. I don't know specifically if that means no gear or not but if so...I say Team 1 stomps...if not, Cold solos. Though I don't even know why CC would be in a battle without his ice powers.

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Cold solos

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@thetruebarryallen said:

I don't see how Deathstroke or Manta could get through the Cold Field - even with prep.

Currently my vote is for Team 2 - but maybe someone can surprise me.

...the OP said "without ice powers" for Captain Cold.

With that little nugget...I say Team 1 stomps...if not, Cold solos. Though I don't even know why CC would be in a battle without his ice powers.

He still has his Cold Gun - the Ice Powers are referring to his New 52 Form in which he had spliced his DNA with the weapon; however, Deathstorm of the Crime Syndicate reversed that & currently Cold is without his Ice Powers.

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#8  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@thetruebarryallen: Yeah I edited my post after I realize what he was probably talked about.

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Cold solos.

He isn't street level.

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Cold is still soloing.

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#11  Edited By bigcimmerian

@fallschirmjager: He has his standard gear, but no new 52 powers.

Cold is really that powerful eh?

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Cold solos. Bane is a non-factor.

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I'm confused, I thought I was missing something at first, but this is rather a mismatch.

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Four of my favorites used in a single match doe.

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@fallschirmjager: He has his standard gear, but no new 52 powers.

Cold is really that powerful eh?

Cold's gun fires beams of absolute zero - the coldest possible temperature that results in the stopping of all particle motion.

He also has a field of Absolute Zero around him to prevent him from being hit by projectiles or blitzed by Flash.

There isn't a way for anyone on Team 1 to get past it.

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#18  Edited By nickthedevil

@bigcimmerian said:

@fallschirmjager: He has his standard gear, but no new 52 powers.

Cold is really that powerful eh?

lol, you thought the was street level?

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#19  Edited By ZhuRong

You giving prep to a Flash villain? Lol

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#21  Edited By nickthedevil

@zhurong said:

You giving prep to a Flash villain? Lol

Took him five minutes to build a cold gun out of a refrigerator.

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Team 2. Captain Cold can freeze Black Manta while Bane breaks Deathstroke's joints. I'm pretty sure Slade's armor doesn't cover his joints so he can move

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Team 2. Captain Cold can freeze Black Manta while Bane breaks Deathstroke's joints. I'm pretty sure Slade's armor doesn't cover his joints so he can move

Bane is in no way, shape, or form, Deathstroke's superior.

You were right until your first period.

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Switch Cold out for someone else. Deathstroke and Black Manta can easily dispatch Bane.

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@ninjawarrior268 said:

Team 2. Captain Cold can freeze Black Manta while Bane breaks Deathstroke's joints. I'm pretty sure Slade's armor doesn't cover his joints so he can move

Bane is in no way, shape, or form, Deathstroke's superior.

You were right until your first period.

Current Bane is definetely above Slade in physicals.

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Team 2,Cold solos.

Switch Cold out for someone else. Deathstroke and Black Manta can easily dispatch Bane.

Bane would wreck current Manta.

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@entropy_aegis: Bane wrecking Manta? You're gonna hafta explain that one to me.

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@entropy_aegis: Bane wrecking Manta? You're gonna hafta explain that one to me.

The only weapon Manta has in his arsenal that allows him to damage Aquaman is his energy blast,other than that Manta is actually a low level street level character,Bane would flatten him if they got too close.

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Low level? Definitely not.

That doesn't make sense still because Manta has taken hits from Aquaman. Since when can Bane replicate that kind of strength? Also Manta's heat blasts have burned through Aquaman's armor which has taken explosions aplenty. One of those would incinerate Bane. Or he could just electrocute him or mutilate him.

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@blackwind said:

Low level? Definitely not.

That doesn't make sense still because Manta has taken hits from Aquaman. Since when can Bane replicate that kind of strength? Also Manta's heat blasts have burned through Aquaman's armor which has taken explosions aplenty. One of those would incinerate Bane. Or he could just electrocute him or mutilate him.

He also got punked by the that Others character in the early issues of Aquaman even though that person was unarmed and unprepared. His weapons consist of blades and harpoons,none of which are doing anything to Bane. The heat blasts can be dodged,I've seen nothing from Manta that indicates great reflexes or aim.Bane can handle electricity as well.

Bane gets close and snaps his neck,or tears off his limbs.

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Deathstroke and Manta win imo

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Deathstroke and Manta win imo

How can they get passed CC's Cold field and avoid him freezing them?

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#35  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@entropy_aegis said:

@blackwind said:

Low level? Definitely not.

That doesn't make sense still because Manta has taken hits from Aquaman. Since when can Bane replicate that kind of strength? Also Manta's heat blasts have burned through Aquaman's armor which has taken explosions aplenty. One of those would incinerate Bane. Or he could just electrocute him or mutilate him.

He also got punked by the that Others character in the early issues of Aquaman even though that person was unarmed and unprepared. His weapons consist of blades and harpoons,none of which are doing anything to Bane. The heat blasts can be dodged,I've seen nothing from Manta that indicates great reflexes or aim.Bane can handle electricity as well.

Bane gets close and snaps his neck,or tears off his limbs.

Manta didn't really get punked by the Prisoner of War. He almost killed him and POW managed to escape. He also killed Vostok and destroyed a cave with the Dead King's sceptor. And the POW isn't a human, he's a low-meta who has the power of all of his dead comrades in battle as well as the Manacles of Atlantis which allows him to create powerful force fields (he's held back tidal waves and avalanches)

And his electricity temporarily stunned Mera. who also isn't even close to human.

While I agree, Manta is not physically powerful as people too often try to claim he is (simply because he "fights" Aquaman), you're woefully downplaying Manta here.

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@entropy_aegis said:

@blackwind said:

Low level? Definitely not.

That doesn't make sense still because Manta has taken hits from Aquaman. Since when can Bane replicate that kind of strength? Also Manta's heat blasts have burned through Aquaman's armor which has taken explosions aplenty. One of those would incinerate Bane. Or he could just electrocute him or mutilate him.

He also got punked by the that Others character in the early issues of Aquaman even though that person was unarmed and unprepared. His weapons consist of blades and harpoons,none of which are doing anything to Bane. The heat blasts can be dodged,I've seen nothing from Manta that indicates great reflexes or aim.Bane can handle electricity as well.

Bane gets close and snaps his neck,or tears off his limbs.

Manta didn't really get punked by the Prisoner of War. He almost killed him and POW managed to escape. He also killed Vostok and destroyed a cave with the Dead King's sceptor. And the POW isn't a human, he's a low-meta who has the power of all of his dead comrades in battle as well as the Manacles of Atlantis which allows him to create powerful force fields (he's held back tidal waves and avalanches)

And his electricity temporarily stunned Mera. who also isn't even close to human.

While I agree, Manta is not physically powerful as people too often try to claim he is (simply because he "fights" Aquaman), you're woefully downplaying Manta here.

I didn't see any superhuman power displayed when made his escape(after he was ambushed too no less) and the sceptor isn't standard equipment for him.

Eh on the electric attack,I would have more faith if it weren't written by Johns I mean Ocean Masters lightning had the same effects on Batman as it did on Supes and Diana.

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@entropy_aegis: POW has way more showings throughtout the book and in the Aquaman and the Other's title.

If you don't want to read it, just go listen to Dan Jurgen's interview posted on the site at comic con. He describes the POW in the same way I did.

And seriously? Come on dude. Those are two completely separate instances. Ocean Master used ightening bolts generated by a magical staff to KO the league and Manta used a technology charged suit he designed to combat Aquaman.

Very different circumstances on different characters.

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I could say cold solos and bane can distract them or outsmart them so team 2

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Team 1 should basically stomp here, but Cold solos because of BS.

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Cap cold could prolly freeze bm & slade BUT bm has heat vision dats hotter den lava so idk also i feel bane is da weakest link here so team 1 could double team cold

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Captain Cold solo's.

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Snart solos

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Cold slaughter-freezes and solos them with 3 days prep.