@thenaughtytitan: I would disagree, Iron Fist has enough force to break Black Panthers Vibranium armor, and to destroy the helicarrier in a single punch etc... He is also fast enough to snatch multiple bullets out of the air, and his skill trumps Hawkman's exponentially. If Danny isn't holding back, neither on team one really stands a chance unless Slade plants an explosive on himself like he has done before, however, it is unlikely that tactic would take a majority.
The black panther feat is impressive but hawkman has ridiculous durability and one of the best current healing factors, I would say a bloodlusted wonder woman hits harder than Iron fist.
I would say this haymaker is more powerful then a punch from iron fist....
If danny manages to hurt him badly the nth metal will project fire in all directions to protect hawkman......
Speed is equalized so hawkman could just as easily lop his head off, I think the best chance team marvel has is if daken holds off hawkman while iron fist takes out deathstroke, though deathstroke could potentially take out danny but more likely it would end up Ironfist/daken vs hawkman...
Hawkman getting punched by Wonder Woman means absolutely nothing. Wonder Woman and Superman level hits send people out of the world, literally. The only thing Hawkman being hit by Wonder Woman proved was that she has the control to hold back or it's just PIS.
No it does not, first of all holding pandora's box is proven to make you rabid and bloodlusted, even captain marvel turned black. Most of the force from the hit is lost when hawkmans head snaps back, it still hurts him really badly but the force that would propel him backwards is partially gone. As seen on panel he does fly back but not as ridiculously as you proclaim. He could have easily used his powerful wins to catch himself so he does fly back so far. Just because he does not fly back does not mean she was not bloodlusted, maybe the comic just did not think about how far back he should go but it does not change that he took a hit from a bloodlusted wonder woman.
No it is not PIS, he has tanked hits from shaggy man and tanked multiple hits from aquaman, hawkman is just that durable.
You can deny the feat as much as you want but you are dead wrong, it shows it on panel and you are ridiculous to deny it.....
I deny the he can take a hit that would send him to the sun or even the moon. That is Wonder Woman's tier level of hitting and receiving. Show me where Hawkman consistently takes hits like that and I'll buy it.
FYI, Batman has taken hits from MM and Darkseid, I don't believe he's anywhere near their tier level.
Hawkman has been consistently OP in the new 52, he has tanked hits from more than one high tier and his limits have never been clearly defined.
Hawkman has tanked hits from aquaman whos strength is easily on par with diana's.
This is debatable but what it looks like in the scan is aquaman flash ko'd superman, superman is not out of the fight for long but to me it looks like he got flash ko'd.
Hawkman is shown to be grappling with wonder woman, hawkman is top tier nowadays and some people are too stuck in the pre 52 they cannot believe what is right in front of them.
Hawkman ko'd shazam, who took hits from superman. This is a partially due to Nth metal affecting magic but he does have enhanced strength.
Hawkman has a great healing factor(enough to regrow limbs) and durability to withstand shots from top tier characters, he has one shotted people who took hits from superman and is constantly getting more powerful.
Hawkman is not as powerful as people like wonder woman and aquaman but he can stand with them in a fight based off of durability and his healing factor.
Do you have any feats of him crumbling at hits from weaker people? He has been beaten up by people like deathstroke but that is due to speed and at the time he was completely new to his powers(which was stated). Hawkman can take hits from wonder woman, he did, it is canon. I proved he has taken shots from other people on wonder womans level.
Now lets get back to the thread at hand because you are not disproving the wonder woman feat.....
knocking Lobo back.
@thenaughtytitan: you are kind of reaching. just because Aquaman was able to knock Superman off his feet does not gauge his actual strength, nor does it mean Aquaman punched Hawkman as hard as he did Superman.
We already also know that Deathstroke who had nth metal (mixture) armor was able to outmaneuver and essentially manhandle Hawkman while making him bleed from his punches.
NO, if anything aquaman hit hawkman harder because superman is his teammate and friend, he did not want to hit superman but hawkman he had no quarrel with hitting. You are not disproving a damn thing by basically saying "well maybe he did not hit him as hard" you are the one who is reaching, he took hits from wonder woman, aquaman, lobo, shaggy man and more.
As I have explained to you multiple times when he fought deathstroke he was nowhere near his current power level. How does deathstroke being faster than him have a say in him taking hits from AQUAMAN AND WONDER WOMAN, who are both ridiculously strong and it is CANON that he tanked hits from them( and wonder woman was not holding back).
This says a lot about his strength, he wa able to break a brainiac horde ship and simon baz could not break one(SIMON IS A GREEN LANTERN)
He also recovers from the beam fired by the ship in the next scan which shows his healing factor in work.
The feat is legit, get over it and move on, stop derailing the thread with your pathetic attempts at trying to disprove this feat. You have not done a thing but show your lack of knowledge on hawkman.
@thenaughtytitan: his durability has nothing to do with being new to his powers. He also had shown to have deep knowledge of how Nth metal works, so his understanding of his powers wasn't "novice". The problem you are showing is you look at someone's best feat (like Aquaman punching superman) and then use abc logic to say that Hawkman was therefor punched that hard while completely ignoring plot/context evolved. Your argument is based on assumptions that aren't consistent.
How is it that he was able to be stabbed in the heart, had to regrow limbs etc... If he could withstand a full powered punch from wonderwoman? See the inconsistency with your claim?
I not once said aquaman punched him that hard but thank you very much for putting words in my mouth. He bled, that is literally all that happened, that does not disprove taking hits from BLOODLUSTED wonder woman, aquaman, lobo, shaggy man and blockbuster.
It was not a regular knife like you are insinuating(not a knife at all)....
he got his arm cut off by an alien with alien tech, lobo has tech that hurts supergirl and this knife is far more deadly then any regular earth knife, that is why it can cut him.
Also his feats are due to durability and largely due to healing factor, just like how wolverine can take hits from namor, hulk and more hawkman can tank hits from powerful people because he heals so fast.
Everything you posted just proves my point even further. Aquaman hits Superman 100s of feet away, Aquaman hits Hawkman and he doesn't even get knocked back whatsoever.
Thank you for proving my point.
That proves literally nothing you imbecile, all that proves is one writer wanted superman to go flying and another wanted Hawkman to continue battling. Again Hawkman could have easily used his wings to catch himself, the reason superman cannot catch himself with flight is because he is knocked out cold.
The aquaman feat supports him taking a full on hit from a bloodlusted wonder woman, he has taken hits from multiple top tiers and you keep ignoring that because of your ego. You cannot admit you have been beat thus you keep sinking deeper.
You mad bro? Seriously, calm down.
Going by logic like that, Batman's durability >>> Hawkman's durability
And Deathstroke beat the crap out of Batman. So I guess Deathstroke and Darkseid should be a good match, I wonder why no one has ever made that thread before.
All joking aside, no on here is taking your logic and reasoning seriously. Wonder Woman is in a whole other tier system than Hawkman.
She fights and deals with people that are capable of hitting at light speeds. Here she gets hit by a sun amped Superman from the sun to earth at FTL.
Here she gets kicked AROUND THE WORLD.
Unless you have similar feats of Hawkman, don't tell me that he's capable of taking Wonder Woman's hits without PIS involved. They're on a entirely different tier system.
All I ask for is proof he's capable of taking a punch which causes large amounts of collateral damage to backup the magnitude of the punch he has received. Comparing a punch from this
to this
Is not going to convince anyone with credibility around here.
@god_spawn can you please let this guy know we're not debating on a teenager website where we throw insults and call each other imbeciles?. Thanks.
Everything you posted just proves my point even further. Aquaman hits Superman 100s of feet away, Aquaman hits Hawkman and he doesn't even get knocked back whatsoever.
Thank you for proving my point.
That proves literally nothing you imbecile, all that proves is one writer wanted superman to go flying and another wanted Hawkman to continue battling. Again Hawkman could have easily used his wings to catch himself, the reason superman cannot catch himself with flight is because he is knocked out cold.
The aquaman feat supports him taking a full on hit from a bloodlusted wonder woman, he has taken hits from multiple top tiers and you keep ignoring that because of your ego. You cannot admit you have been beat thus you keep sinking deeper.
You mad bro? Seriously, calm down.
Going by logic like that, Batman's durability >>> Hawkman's durability
And Deathstroke beat the crap out of Batman. So I guess Deathstroke and Darkseid should be a good match, I wonder why no one has ever made that thread before.
All joking aside, no on here is taking your logic and reasoning seriously. Wonder Woman is in a whole other tier system than Hawkman.
She fights and deals with people that are capable of hitting at light speeds. Here she gets hit by a sun amped Superman from the sun to earth at FTL.
Here she gets kicked AROUND THE WORLD.
Unless you have similar feats of Hawkman, don't tell me that he's capable of taking Wonder Woman's hits without PIS involved. They're on a entirely different tier system.
All I ask for is proof he's capable of taking a punch which causes large amounts of collateral damage to backup the magnitude of the punch he has received. Comparing a punch from this
to this
Is not going to convince anyone with credibility around here.
@god_spawn can you please let this guy know we're not debating on a teenager website where we throw insults and call each other imbeciles?. Thanks.
HAHAHAHAHHAH, omfg this shit is hilarious, never said he and wonder woman are the same level but you claimed he could not take a hit from her when he has and he did, I showed you he has taken hits from multiple high tiers which proves the wonder woman feat is legit.
Are you serious right now, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE FEATS YOU ARE USING IS PRE 52, how the hell are you going to prove anything about new 52 wonder woman with pre 52 feats? Now I know for a fact you are a troll.
She outclasses him in a fight but that is not what we are talking about, she hit him and he tanked it, that is the feat we are talking about, you denied this feat and I have proven in with multiple other feats of him tanking hits from high tiers.
THIS IS LITERALLY THE MOST PATHETIC POST I HAVE EVER SEEN ON COMIC VINE, you take yourself so seriously but you are arguing about new 52 wonder woman AND USING FEATS OF PRE 52, are you joking? How mind mindbogglingly stupid do you have to be to need even know which version of a character you are debating?
The batman darkseid feat is horrible but it is nothing like the hawkman feat because I backed up that he has tanked hits from multiple other people including aquaman who is arguably as strong as diana.
If you are going to argue about a canon fear at least have a good argument because right now your argument is pathetic.
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