Death Seed Sentry vs Pre 52 Superman

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Death seed sentry stomps

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#352  Edited By Hulkman123

@huey_freeman34 said:

@hulkman123 said:

@huey_freeman34 said:

Superman stomps Bob. He has better feats and many, many more of them to boot.

No.

Yes. Prove me wrong.

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@huey_freeman34: No he doesn't, there is nothing Superman can do to beat DS Sentry.

Sentry wins via beating him physically or TP'ing him.

DS Sentry stomps, this is not even close.

How, pray tell, does Bob physically defeat his physical superior? And Superman has taken on TP'ers before...and won. Sentry's TP was impressive enough to stop Thor's hammer so that automatically qualifies it to be powerful enough to put Kal down? Whaaat?!

Completely owning humiliating Thor twice, puts him above Superman.

In fact he two shotted Thor, while holding back, and Thor has taken shots from Skyfathers and Celestials, shots that can easily destroy planets.

Stopping Exitar's foot when Rogue with the power of every hero on Earth couldn't, puts him above Superman.

Sentry stomps.

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#353  Edited By Kingant27

@huey_freeman34: I'm not sure whether you are serious or not?

DS Sentry is a whole different level, normal Sentry could beat Superman; DS Sentry would absolutely stomp him.

Read a DS Sentry respect thread or read his scans, there is nothing Superman can do that would give him the edge in order to win; DS Sentry cannot die and would physically overpower him or TP him if bored; not to mention he has already shown matter manipulation and created giant sand monsters, however that would effect this battle.

DS Sentry would even beat the best versions of Superman arguably.

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@hulkman123: Well put, I was going to say something similar along those lines; but there is no reason to as Superman has no hope in this battle.

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@addikhabbo: your clearly using ABC logic. Thor is weaker than superman, but can beat superman because of his magic. sentry has no even ability too magic so he can win against Thor. this is a clear example of why ABC logic is useless.

not saying superman wins, just that your argument should improve.

The only advantage Superman has over Thor is his speed.

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@huey_freeman34: I'm not sure whether you are serious or not?

Why wouldn't I be?

DS Sentry is a whole different level, normal Sentry could beat Superman; DS Sentry would absolutely stomp him.

WTF...Base Sentry couldn't beat Clark without without a plot device or the Void present. Are you being serious right now??

Read a DS Sentry respect thread or read his scans, there is nothing Superman can do that would give him the edge in order to win; DS Sentry cannot die and would physically overpower him or TP him if bored; not to mention he has already shown matter manipulation and created giant sand monsters, however that would effect this battle.

Well I'm pretty well versed in his feats but I'll give the respect thread(s) a look-see before I debate any further. Do you happen to have the link(s) on you?

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@huey_freeman34 said:

@hulkman123 said:

@huey_freeman34 said:

Superman stomps Bob. He has better feats and many, many more of them to boot.

No.

Yes. Prove me wrong.

@kingant27 said:

@huey_freeman34: No he doesn't, there is nothing Superman can do to beat DS Sentry.

Sentry wins via beating him physically or TP'ing him.

DS Sentry stomps, this is not even close.

How, pray tell, does Bob physically defeat his physical superior? And Superman has taken on TP'ers before...and won. Sentry's TP was impressive enough to stop Thor's hammer so that automatically qualifies it to be powerful enough to put Kal down? Whaaat?!

Completely owning humiliating Thor twice, puts him above Superman.

How so? Bc Thor is stronger than Superman (which he is)? That's a decent argument but the fact of the matter is that Superman took on and defeated foes more powerful than DS Sentry (hence the many more, better feats).

In fact he two shotted Thor, while holding back, and Thor has taken shots from Skyfathers and Celestials, shots that can easily destroy planets.

You got me here. All of this is true except I'm sure about the context of these claims? Weren't the Celestials holding back?

@killemall@mr_ingenuity: would either of y'all care to provide the context of these claims bc I'm not so sure.

Stopping Exitar's foot when Rogue with the power of every hero on Earth couldn't, puts him above Superman.

@killemall@mr_ingenuity: And this one too?

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@huey_freeman34: Neither of the two feat mentioned has a context, although i suppose it would be prudent to think Celestials werent trying to kill Thor, after all, few issues earlier it was established that Arishem firepower alone was infinitely more powerful the combined might of Odin , Zeus and Vishnu together, and they were nothing more than mere flies compared to him. Thor tanking a blast from them hardly makes sense but he did.. coz comics.

The second one is genuine too, and happened fairly recently.

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@huey_freeman34: Neither of the two feat mentioned has a context, although i suppose it would be prudent to think Celestials werent trying to kill Thor, after all, few issues earlier it was established that Arishem firepower alone was infinitely more powerful the combined might of Odin , Zeus and Vishnu together, and they were nothing more than mere flies compared to him. Thor tanking a blast from them hardly makes sense but he did.. coz comics.

The second one is genuine too, and happened fairly recently.

Okay thanks.

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@hulkman123: Nvm you win, I concede. DS Sentry wins but base Sentry would still lose without the Void.

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@huey_freeman34: Normal Sentry can beat Superman, via TP or match him physically; only non knowledgable people think that only the Void can win; it his alter ego, despite having some better feats, they still are one of the same characters @killemall: also it stated the combined attack of Odin, Zues and Vishnu was enough destroyed a galaxy.

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#362  Edited By Huey_Freeman34

@huey_freeman34: Normal Sentry can beat Superman, via TP or match him physically; only non knowledgable people think that only the Void can win; it his alter ego, despite having some better feats, they still are one of the same characters @killemall: also it stated the combined attack of Odin, Zues and Vishnu was enough destroyed a galaxy.

No he can't. Base Sentry was inconsistent throughout his run and hardly ever used his full power-set. He did nothing to suggest that he could bypass Superman's durability or withstand the versatility of his powers. Only non-knowledgeable ppl think otherwise...see? I can do that too..

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@huey_freeman34: He still utilised TP, and was stated to be the best Telepath on Marvel Earth, and had some high TP feats, he can TP him.

Sentry has way more powers to his disposal, and duarability is definitely on par with Superman's.

Sentry haters or Superman fans need to understand and break away from the fact that Sentry is not a Superman clone, and his abilities/ power set are completely different, and he has much more ways of dealing with superman and can beat him, via TP.

Sentry is more like MMH:

Both have Alter egos

Both have top TP

Both have Superman type abilities.

Etc

People need to get out of there head that the Sentry is a replica; because there are much more characters in Marvel that closely resemble Superman, e.g. Hyperion, Gladiator.

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@adamtrmm: I disagree. I think Superman has a lot of chance. Have you seen a mega solar-powered Superman? That guy was exploding with solar energy! Essentially, I think we should compare Death Seed Sentry to a Sun-Dipped Superman.

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#365  Edited By Sy8000

Well...Superman might stand a chance if he's smart with his speed. That's really it.

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#366  Edited By X_insignia1

DS Sentry.

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#367  Edited By Hollow_Point

Sentry wrecks supes with or without death seed or void

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#368  Edited By dondave

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Sentry wrecks supes with or without death seed or void

Not true. Base Sentry would get rocked.

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#371  Edited By Eisenfauste

DS sentry. Regular sentry would get wrecked by superman.

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DS Sentry

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You know the saying, "Copies never beat the original?", well/

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DS Sentry would take this fight. Any "Sentry" is immortal, he just can't die.

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I disagree. I think Superman has a lot of chance. Have you seen a mega solar-powered Superman? That guy was exploding with solar energy! Essentially, I think we should compare Death Seed Sentry to a Sun-Dipped Superman.

Ok, tell me then how SD Superman will defeat DSS.

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@adamtrmm: by destroying everything he has before he has a chance to regenerate?

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#381  Edited By Hulkman123

@hulkman123: Hmm.

Really?
Really?

That's sundipped Superman and DS Sentry would still beat him.

Just so you know, even a non Deathseed Sentry has been totally destroyed and he reformed easily.

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And here he states that he regenerated from a single atom over and over again.

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Sentry still stomps.

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@hulkman123: Hmm.

Ok.
Ok.

That's Superman Prime One Million who has been sundipped for 15 thousand years.

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@hulkman123: Dude I said ok. Even Superman Prime One Million can't beat Sentry is what you're trying to say, right?

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@hulkman123: Dude I said ok. Even Superman Prime One Million can't beat Sentry is what you're trying to say, right?

Prime One Million probably can.

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#386  Edited By addikhabbo
Suck it!
Suck it!

@hulkman123: And I quote: Prime One Million probably can.

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Suck it!
Suck it!

@hulkman123: And I quote: Prime One Million probably can.

But that's irrelevant, SPOM isn't in this fight.

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@hulkman123: Wrong! It's Death Seed Sentry vs Pre 52 Superman! Know the difference!

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#391  Edited By Hulkman123

@addikhabbo said:

@hulkman123: Wrong! It's Death Seed Sentry vs Pre 52 Superman! Know the difference!

And DS Sentry is regular Sentry, but he's amped up even further.

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#392  Edited By addikhabbo
You've just been PARADOXED!!!
You've just been PARADOXED!!!

@hulkman123: So is Superman Prime One Million!

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#393  Edited By Hulkman123

@addikhabbo said:
You've just been PARADOXED!!!
You've just been PARADOXED!!!

@hulkman123: So is Superman Prime One Million!

Except Superman Prime One Million is the amped one in that case. If SPOM was in this fight you would be allowed to use any feats from any less sundipped Superman, because it would only be logical that he would be able to do anything they can.

By the way, your paradox makes no sense.

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#394  Edited By addikhabbo

@hulkman123: Even so, I was just suggesting how Sun-Dipped Superman could destroy Death Seed Sentry.

So I'll ask you again, can Sun-Dipped Superman destroy Sentry before he regenerates? And consider Superman Prime One Million as a Sun-Dipped Superman.

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#395  Edited By Hulkman123

@hulkman123: Even so, I was just suggesting how Sun-Dipped Superman could destroy Death Seed Sentry.

So I'll ask you again, can Sun-Dipped Superman destroy Sentry before he regenerates? And consider Superman Prime One Million as a Sun-Dipped Superman.

Depends on how sundipped Superman is, if he is sundipped to the level of SPOM, then probably yes.

Again, this is irrelevant.

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@hulkman123: Just asking if Sun-Dipped Superman can destroy Death Seed Sentry is all. Oh, and by the way-

Suck it!
Suck it!

@hulkman123: And I quote: Prime One Million probably can.

-Peace! I'm out!

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#397  Edited By Marvelous_3212

Sentry stomps the featless man

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Sentry wins.

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@hulkman123: Did you just say that? sentry stomps superman with one hand and one leg tied? wow, just wow. It says bloodlusted, do you know how fast bloodlusted pre-52 supes was? 10x (probably 11x or 12x, didn't have the time to do the math correctly)

He took darkseid's omega beams to the face and continued as if nothing really happened.

He survived the explosion of apocolips and another planet collide and explode, plus all of the hellsphores on apocolips being able to destroy a planet making it as if it it was three planets exploding.

He destroyed an asteroid with ease, do you know how big asteroids usually are? Not only that, but he quickly flew back.

Another scan where he survives an explosion powerful enough to destroy an entire planet and he didn't even get knocked out.

I could keep on going, but it's really not necesary.