Deadric Princes vs Marvel demons

The Deadric Princes thanks to a stupid Nigh Omnipotent mortal are teleported with their full powers granted while inside their realms into Marvel verse and start to create Havoc and destruction.

Mehrunes Dagon start changing the laws of reality and creating natural disasters.

Molag Bal start enslaving incalculable ammounts of mortals.

Hearmenus Mora start killing people and stealing knowlodge for his library.

And the list goes on.

Whomever at a certain point, The Deadric Princes messes up with many demons from Marvel verse (such as Blackhearth and Surtur) and they start battling.

Battle happens outside everyone realms.

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@frocharocha: if TES daedra are at full power I am backing them here

Yes full power. The demons are also at full power. Otherwise the Deadra would destroy everything.

Daedra should win here.

Who the f--k drew that picture of Molag Bal? It looks like a demented fish with bull horns sticking out of his cheeks

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@frocharocha: who is that female demon i don't recognize her ?

@ownagepants: That's fanart of Nocturnal. Now, we have like 8 Marvel Demons against 17 Daedric Princes. I wonder who has the advantage.

Marvel demons win. The Daedra aren't in oblivion, so they are not at full power.

@106me: OP says they are

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If Shuma is a demon, then they stomp.

The Deadric Princes.

@cjdavis103: Frocharocha said that the battle is happening "outside everyone realms." (?) So, yeah, the Daedrea win if it's in their own realm, but not if they are anywhere else.

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Mephisto should stomp if everyone is outside their realm. The princes are only beating him with a significant advantage.

Wish I could say BLackheart too, but Marvel has NOT treated him too well. He should still be stronger than most Daedric Princes.

Isn't Mephisto just universal?(correct me if wrong) The Deadra are far above that just through sheer size alone.

dang I forgot about the daedra wank

Marvel demons without any trouble.

@jirou: what wank?

Throughout the ES we consistently see the lore and mythos behind the Nine and the Daedra are overblown and exaggerated. In fact, that's actually the point of many of the Elder Scrolls story is to show the difference between Lore and reality.

Morrowind, for example, is about proving that the Tribunal were actually false gods. Over and above that we find out that arguably one of the most powerful weapons in all of ES history is far from omnipotent or even instantaneous in its means of destruction. It is a weapon that could take months or years to conquer the planet with. And that's in the hands of a being powerful enough to rival the Tribunal; who were powerful enough to overthrow the daedra and the elder gods of the Chimer.

We also know, according to modern lore, that another being who was less powerful than the tribunal was able to contend and overthrow a Daedra prince in their home realm. And this isn't even the first time that has happened. There are multiple instances where we see Daedra princes at their full power, and they fall to what amounts to an extremely powerful warrior of legend; who just isn't on the level to defeat armies under their own power.

Realistically speaking, these guys are high mid tier or low high tier reality warpers in their realms. Again, the Elder Scrolls lore may say differently; but we have found out in all of the Elder Scrolls games that the lore is a flat out lie and exaggeration created to amass more followers. That is the central plot to most of the main quest lines or several major quests throughout the games.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: when did the Tribunal beat a deadra at full power?

Who beat a daedric prince on their own realm?

@clavicus69: The Tribunal didn't beat a daedra. The Vestige did, and he's far from the only one to defeat a Daedra in Oblivion. The Hero of Kvatch defeated Sheogorath to release his curse in his own realm as well. A half dozen more were defeated outside their realm as well.

The Tribunal pulled power away from Azura which caused the curse that turned the Chimer into the Dunmer. Which later lost their power after the tools were destroyed and brought power back to Azura, Boethia, and Mephala.

And it should be noted that Sheogorath, Boethia, Azura, and Mephala all took it personally at the very appearance of the Tribunal, and all of them made attempts against them. Baar Dur (not sure I spelled that correctly) is thought to have been sent by Sheogorath; but was stopped by Vivec. And later held in place by a dying Vivec who was losing power. And later, when his power diminished further, was held in place by an artifact crafted by mortals.

But all of that pales in comparison to the idea that the 3 false gods who the Daedra were fearful against were stopped by a single being empowered by a Dwemer artifact. Which is not the only artifact in existence created by mortals that had the power to challenge the Daedra, nor was it the most powerful.

Again, the very plot of Morrowind and Oblivion alone reveals on multiple occasions that the Daedra Princes, Tribunal, and the Nine often lie about their power in order to inspire followers. That's pretty much the plot of the former, and a factor in the latter.

Thanks for reading,

FLoopay

@floopay: you seem to ignore the fact that Vestige had the amulet of kings(gives you the power of a god) and the help of Merida to even beat Molag bal and he wasn't really defeated otherwise his realm would have collapsed.

The Hero of Kavatch mantled Sheogorath as in he became sheogorath and gained his power, hence why he was able to beat em.

None of the daedra are fear the tribunal(maybe Vivec because of Chim) and all the feats in Nirn aren't reflections of the daedras true power, why? Because their are defenses in place specifically so that they can't manifest their true power in Mundus as a whole.

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Molag Bal was defeated, he just wasn't killed. And the power of a god still barely beats Vivec. And even at full power the Tribunal (which includes Vivec) still couldn't rival Dagoth Ur, and had to rely on Nerevar to defeat him; whom they then poisoned. Even during their second battle when their followers had increased, and they still had their divine powers the 3 together couldn't rival Dagoth Ur.

Which is important because the power of Dagoth Ur was nothing compared to the power of Akulakhan, which was said to be equal to Numidum. Which is important because the power of Numidum was something that could rival Tiber Septim and allowed him to finally conquest against the Altmer; which he was unable to do even with a power that was said to rival Vivec; who is often compared to the Nine and Daedra.

Basically, a 1,000 foot construct is still enough to rival some of the most powerful beings in the Elder Scrolls. Most of what we know of the Daedra comes from lore books throughout the games, and we find most of them are just myths written and manipulated by greater powers to make them into more than they actually are.

I love the Elder Scrolls and have played all of them except ESO. But the thing I love most about them is they oftentimes draw that line between myth and reality. Which adds an incredible layer of depth to an already deep lore and well flushed out social-political system and it's various religions.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

The Daedra maybe.

@floopay: Vivec is trrriy inconsistent in terms of power because again he has chim(makes you stronger than all gods below anu), using him as a bench mark isn't fair.

That he is compared doesn't make them equals at least not always.

Numidium is incredibly strong specially when it's powered by the heart of Lorkhan and it can literally brake all possible time lines and merge them all into a single one across all of Mundus(multiverse)....I don't see how this is an anti-feat.

Like wise thanks for reading

@clavicus69: All of the gods are inconsistent, that's the point. What their lore says they do and can do is different from their actual showings. Nothing Vivec has done couldn't be replicated by a mortal artifact of moderate power. This is proven by the Ingenium (is that what it was called?) during his hiatus, which replicated what is easily his greatest feat.

Numidium barely gave Tiber Septim the power to conquer the Isles, who were not assisted by any of the Daedra or the Nine. That's why it's an anti-feat. We have an artifact made by mortals (Dwemer) with the power to rival the gods; but the reality of it's power is that it can be rivaled by mortal magic. This is a concept that is consistent with ALL of the Elder Scrolls. It is fear and intimidation spread through false lore to keep the masses at their worship. The exact same tactic that drove the Tribunal to assassinate Nerevar and Dagoth Ur.

And the Heart of Lorkhan was used in Akulakhan IIRC, they used a powerful soulstone to power Numidium.

I'm not saying the Daedra aren't powerful; but they are high tier level reality warpers by feats. All of their strongest abilities are based on lore that has been consistently proven false. Molag Bal was defeated with the use of a couple artifacts that are at best mid tier. Tiber Septim lacked the power to push back the Altmer with the Amulet of Kings; but it gave a powerful hero the power to drive back a Daedra Prince in his home realm.

Again, this is what happens when we compare lore and mythos in Elder Scrolls to the actual showings of the Nine and the Daedra Princes. It's a central theme throughout the Elder Scrolls; particularly Morrowind, but the theme exists in every other game to some degree as well.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: the Deadra are fairly consistent, you might think they are not because they get beat in Nirn but again that's not a representation of their power, and the times they get beat fair and square is by beings at their level or the heroes get a massive power up to god status.

Numidium at it's best can't be riveld by mortal magic that's just false.

What has been proven false concerning the power of the Daedra? On panel we see their realms have stars and galaxies within it, they are stated to easily destroy other realms or dimensions, the celestials can easily destroy minds and they are weaker than the daedra, Daedras true from is infinite in size and mass.....so on and so forth what are the anti-feats.

Yes the amulete of kings just gives power depending on the cevery of the threat, otherwise it's power would easily be abused by the septims.

Most of the feats I mention are not Myths this is legit stated as a fact.

@floopay: the lore is not a flat out lie

Its clear you never played morrowind.

Most of the Daedra solo low diff