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#2 Posted by The Rascal King (14 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate to say it, but I think Deadpool. His healing factors is just better than Wolverine's.

#3 Posted by speed (550 posts) - - Show Bio

deadpool

#4 Posted by The Rascal King (14 posts) - - Show Bio

That's one of the problems with the battle format here! I wish it would just throw random people together rather than just in categories. Like Deadpool vs. Hawkman. Or Flash vs. Iron Man.

#5 Posted by Prodigal Son (3472 posts) - - Show Bio

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#6 Posted by Fourpower (R.I.P) (2021 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine would win, but if you disagree, I don't feel like arguing, so we can agree to disagree.

#7 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

I vote Deadpool.

In the comics, Deadpool has a 3-1 win over Wolverine, and Wolverine only won the one time because Deadpool didn't want to fight anymore.

But we have to take a their most noticable abilities into consideration.

Wolverine Pros:


Healing Factor - Wolverine can recover from almost any infliction in moments, depending on the severity.


Mutant Might - The combination of adamantium weight and healing gives him near peak-human strength.


Relentless Fighter - Wolverine's healing ability gives him incredible stamina.


Adamantium Skeleton - Wolverine's skeleton provides him with unbreakable bones.


Enhanced Senses - His smell and hearing are superior to a normal human's.


Adamantium Claws - His claws can slash at any surface without breaking.


Old Soul - Wolverine possesses over 100 years of experience.


Berzerker Rage - Wolverine overwhelms his opponents, relying on his healing factor to keep him going.

Wolverine Cons:


Limited Regeneration: Wolverine doesn't heal as fast as he does in the movies, and he can't regrow limbs.


Adamantium Weight - Wolverine requires greater exertion to move with his very heavy skeleton.


Sensory Stress - Great smells and sounds can disorient Wolverine, even cause him to black out.


Attacking Blind - Wolverine rarely uses his fighting experience, going purely on instinct in battle.

Deadpool Pros:


Hyper Regeneration - Deadpool can recover from vitually any infliction and regrow limbs in seconds, depending on the severity.


Enhanced Strength - The combination of healing and further experimentation gives him border-line super-human strength.


Restless Spirit - Deadpool's healing ability gives him incredible stamina.


Calloused Skin - His skin is constantly dying and re-growing, making Deadpool immune to conventional pain and injury.


Immortalility - Most fatal wounds will not incapacitate Deadpool, allowing him to fight as he heals.


Enhanced Abilities - Deadpool's speed and agility exceed that of even the finest human athlete.


Indescrimitory Tactics - Deadpool uses everything in his ability, on his person, or around his environment to win.


Mind Games - Deadpool's an expert of psychological combat.

Deadpool Cons:


Emotional Healing - His healing is affected by his emotions, making him heal slower if sad/depressed or faster when happy/angry.


Mental Instability - Deadpool's psychosis makes him unpredictable, but can also hinder his own abilities.


Post Edited:2007-02-24 20:48:58

#8 Posted by Csir (90 posts) - - Show Bio

Prurience Man says:

"Wolverine would win, simply because of Marvel's editorial staff. 'Nuff said."

DEADPOOL says:

"In the comics, Deadpool has a 3-1 win over Wolverine, and Wolverine only won the one time because Deadpool didn't want to fight anymore.

Pwned

I just wanted to see what people thought and they're reasons why but this isn't really fair because wolverine would win just because he's more known.. props for deadpool on that information i didn't alot of the things you posted
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#9 Posted by G-Man (30625 posts) - - Show Bio

I do like Deadpool but get annoyed with him very easily. What does he have besides guns and swords? I think Wolverine is a better hand to hand fighter. He's also gone up against some bigger foes. In a serious fight, I'd go with Wolverine. Deadpool is just good for comic relief.

That's the way I see it. Agree or not, I've just never been overly impressed with Deadpool's fighting.

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#10 Posted by -000 (226 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll go with Wolverine.

#11 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Well the only person who has ever beaten Deadpool in a straight-up fight was Shen Kuei, Shang Chi's rival. Shen Kuei even admitted that he may not survive another encounter with Deadpool. And for those that aren't aware, Shang Chi's the greatest fighter in Marvel comics.

And currently, yes. Deadpool really only is good for comic relief. But before Cable & Deadpool came out, there was a time when... well... I think this does the talking.

#12 Posted by G-Man (30625 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me guess, that's from an issue of Deadpool?

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#13 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope, it's from an issue of Wolverine.

#14 Posted by Prodigal Son (3472 posts) - - Show Bio

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#15 Posted by Csir (90 posts) - - Show Bio

Prurience Man says:

"OK, you got me. But I still say that in a fight to the death (real death) where the loser would be dead and buried in the ground, never to appear in the Marvel Universe again other than in flashback, the powers that be would kill off ol' Deadpool.I do like Deadpool, however. When he's written correctly, he's hilarious. I'm so glad he grew beyond the crappy Liefield character of yesteryear."

Immortal: Deadpool has actually met and established a relationship with the personification of Death in the Marvel universe and as a result has been cursed by T-Ray, at the behest of Thanos to be unable to die.

Sorce: http://www.marveldatabase.com/Deadpool

#16 Posted by Prodigal Son (3472 posts) - - Show Bio

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#17 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Haha, no one dies in comics. Bucky and Jason Todd are even back.


But I get what you're saying; you're saying that if only one was allowed to be in the Marvel universe, they'd keep Wolverine so they can keep using him as a cash-cow and throw Deadpool into the gutter. But that isn't the topic.

#18 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Deadpool just because he would use a variety of weapons, not just claws. He is also the most likely to back down once it starts, due to the fact that he has the attention span of a six year old on a sugar high. Marvel would never let either of them die for more than twelve seconds as they both make to much money.

#19 Posted by Erg (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Deadpool would win in a fight just because it's hard to counter his moves. If somebody already knows his fighting style he will change it up on them like he did with the Taskmaster.

#20 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

Prurience Man says:

"OK, you got me. But I still say that in a fight to the death (real death) where the loser would be dead and buried in the ground, never to appear in the Marvel Universe again other than in flashback, the powers that be would kill off ol' Deadpool. I do like Deadpool, however. When he's written correctly, he's hilarious. I'm so glad he grew beyond the crappy Liefield character of yesteryear."

I would have to agree

#21 Posted by G-Man (30625 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah I prefer the original character, Deathstroke the Terminator.

I think here, Wolive's talking about a bowel movement.

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#22 Posted by Fourpower (R.I.P) (2021 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Deathstroke more too, he's got style.

#23 Posted by G-Man (30625 posts) - - Show Bio

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#24 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Ahh, Deathstroke. DC's anti-Captain America.

#25 Posted by G-Man (30625 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade Wilson, Wade Wilson...wonder if they were supposed to be brothers?

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#26 Posted by fesak (7031 posts) - - Show Bio

DEADPOOL says:

"Well the only person who has ever beaten Deadpool in a straight-up fight was Shen Kuei, "

And Squirrel Girl.

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#27 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel-Girl basically kicked Deadpool while he was down. He used a bomb at point-blank to beat the Great Lakes Champions, and was blown out of their... umm... "base" into the street, where Squirrel-Girl started attacking him before his healing factor could recover from his severe injuries (he was missing his stomach!).


But I'm a little confused about the Great Lakes Champions' survival of the blast. They were as close, if not closer than Deadpool was when it went off.

G-Man says:

"Slade Wilson, Wade Wilson...wonder if they were supposed to be brothers?"

Deadpool started off as a parody of Deathstroke, but quickly became his own unique character when the fans started to take a liking to him.

But personally, I really think Deathstroke is DC's evil Captain America. They both have scale-mail armor, flaired gloves, fold-over boots, have those sleeve-looking things on their arms, and are a sport'n a midrift-look. Not only that, but they're both soldiers that were given a serum by their government that enhanced their physical and mental abilities to peak-human.

#28 Posted by G-Man (30625 posts) - - Show Bio

SO what's your opinion on Rob Liefeld?

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#29 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I think his art is... odd, actually; also I hear he likes to screw people over. I thank him for creating Cable & Deadpool, but that's about it.

#30 Posted by Dr_Gee (83 posts) - - Show Bio

A very debatable battle..but I would have to give this one to Wolverine. Hes practically immortal..notice the fact that Nitro burned him to a crisp? So taking his organs isn't good enough. The mans had his heart exploded and survived. Deadpools healing factor is unstable and has been shown to fluctiate over the years depending on the circumstances...but I could be wrong on that either way having unlimited healing factor would make just make him a boring character. But Wolverines not unkillable I'm sure there are ways to kill him. HOWEVER according to Wolverine Civil War, it seems that even if he is dead, his body will keep cellulary regenerating so he can't "really" be dead but by that point he'd technically would be. Deadpool has skills but he wouldn't be able to take Wolverine down. Im not impressed by the wins he has over Logan because Logans healing factor was not working at the time. Im sure if it was the other way around Logan would have ripped Deadpools ass apart. Deadpool is mostly played for laughs though he sometimes annoys me. But I don't really care who would win either way Wolverine kicks ass!

#31 Posted by G-Man (30625 posts) - - Show Bio

DEADPOOL says:

"Well I think his art is... odd, actually; also I hear he likes to screw people over. I thank him for creating Cable & Deadpool, but that's about it."

I just kinda have a problem with the whole angle of Liefeld actually "creating" a character that wasn't completely original. Deadpool's humor seems to have become more a part of him the further he got from Liefeld.

I also agree with Dr. Gee that the fights they had weren't entirely fair. Boo hoo, right? It just seems Wolverine tolerates him to an extent. Deadpool's no slouch but Wolverine has the years of experience, skills, and stable mind to out match Deadpool. Deadpool has no disclipline. He also doesn't have much honor. We may never agree but I just see Wolverine as the better fighter. Or at least based on his history, he should be the better fighter. But it all comes down to the writer and editorial direction. No one wants to see Wolverine win all the time. He'd get stale kinda like Superman can at times.

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#32 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr_Gee says:

"A very debatable battle..but I would have to give this one to Wolverine. Hes practically immortal..notice the fact that Nitro burned him to a crisp? So taking his organs isn't good enough. The mans had his heart exploded and survived. Deadpools healing factor is unstable and has been shown to fluctiate over the years depending on the circumstances.Deadpool has skills but he wouldn't be able to take Wolverine down. Im not impressed by the wins he has over Logan because Logans healing factor was not working at the time. Im sure if it was the other way around Logan would have ripped Deadpools ass apart. Deadpool is mostly played for laughs though he sometimes annoys me. But I don't really care who would win either way Wolverine kicks ass!"

I remember before Civil War when Wolverine was reduced to a skeleton... he was dead-dead. Generally everyone agrees that him healing from a skeleton in Civil War was B.S. writing.

Deadpool's healing isn't unstable, it's mentally driven to an extent. If he's sad/depressed, it goes slower than normal; but if he's happy/angry, it goes faster than normal.


But if you want to bring up "unstable healing," I remember a time when it would take Wolverine a few hours or even a day to recover from serious wounds. But in the last 10 years, he has been healing like Deadpool.

Out of the times that I know they fought, Wolverine's healing was only out of service one time. Deadpool just usually out-classes Wolverine.


And if Wolverine is such an awesome fighter, should Deadpool's healing be the only thing stopping Wolverine from winning? Think of all the people Wolverine has fought and defeated over the years that are physically more powerful than Deadpool... did Wolverine only win because of his healing and adamantium claws?

G-Man says:

"It just seems Wolverine *tolerates* him to an extent. Deadpool's no slouch but Wolverine has the years of experience, skills, and stable mind to out match Deadpool. Deadpool has no disclipline."

Actually, I get the feeling that Wolverine respects Deadpool. And as for Deadpool's discipline and honor, that's his key edge. He has the skills, but he's a street fighter, he does what it takes to win... and thanks to his healing factor, he'll be a complete and utter masochist just to win.

Infact, Wolverine's tactic with Nitro was actually a page out of Deadpool's book. Wow, first Wolverine's starting to heal like Deadpool, then he starts thinking like Deadpool. Soon, Wolverine will be "the best at what he does... with a mouth." Haha!


Post Edited:2007-02-27 09:28:49

#33 Posted by Dr_Gee (83 posts) - - Show Bio

DEADPOOL says:

"Dr_Gee says:
"Deadpool's healing isn't unstable, it's mentally driven to an extent. If he's sad/depressed, it goes slower than normal; but if he's happy/angry, it goes faster than normal.
But if you want to bring up "unstable healing," I remember a time when it would take Wolverine a few hours or even a day to recover from serious wounds. But in the last 10 years, he has been healing like Deadpool.Infact, Wolverine's tactic with Nitro was actually a page out of Deadpool's book. Wow, first Wolverine's starting to heal like Deadpool, then he starts thinking like Deadpool. Soon, Wolverine will be "the best at what he does... with a mouth." Haha!
Post Edited:2007-02-27 09:28:49"

Like I said I could be wrong either way i think that makes deadpool a boring character..and yes i remember when it took Wolverine a long time to recover i actually enjoyed that but overall hes better than deadpool i couldn't care less who would win and i don't like it that they are exaggerating wolverines healing he was better how he was before and he has more guts getting into fights than deadpool since hes immortal and has good healing..boring..

#34 Posted by Dr_Gee (83 posts) - - Show Bio

and if wolverine ever started thinking like deadpool or even acting like him then wolverine would be dead to me.. i still like wolverine but he has gotten to the bottom of my list ever since they started messing with his healing factor..making him survive things he couldn't possibly survive before and DEADPOOL was right maybe wolverine didn't need the healing to beat deadpool hes beaten tougher and stronger foes but who knows. but im still not impressed by deadpool..i enjoy characters that actually take risks though i always wondered what would happen if someone dropped deadpool into the sun and he could not teleport..maybe thats a way to get rid of him

#35 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool still gets seriously injured, and is a tragic and dynamic character... when Fabian Nicieza isn't writing him, lol.


Deadpool doesn't save the day, he doesn't get the girl, and he doesn't walk off into the sunset. Infact, he's usually worst off at the end of the book than when it started. Life keeps kicking him in the ribs and it just won't stop. He's horribly scarred, both on the outside and the inside. He has a severe lack of self-esteem and has poor social skills; he covers both of these with sarcasm and humor (dark humor when Fabian Nicieza isn't writing him).


Post Edited:2007-02-27 16:27:31

#36 Posted by Dr_Gee (83 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool doesn't feel pain so if he gets injured it doesn't really matter he'll heal and doesn't feel a thing..but i get what you mean he does have it tough and really has some issues i didn't mean to sound like i hate Deadpool cause thats not the case just not that big of a fan but i do think itd be really cool if he some how makes an appearance in the new wolverine movie coming up

#37 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool feels pain, but only really non-conventional pain because he has a layer of thick dead skin covering his body, so he doesn't really feel: scrapes, bumps, and small flesh wounds. Other than that, he has a high tolerance until his healing factor makes him feel better.

I'd like him to appear in the Wolverine movie too. I think he could support his own movie, but with all the movies Marvel is working on, they may not just have time for a solo Deadpool movie.


I hear the Wolverine movie is going to have Wolverine digging into the Weapon-X thing, and may run into other Weapon-X members (like Sabretooth). Deadpool could probably become an ally of Wolverine during the movie.


Post Edited:2007-02-27 20:53:54

#38 Posted by Dr_Gee (83 posts) - - Show Bio

I take it your Deadpools #1 fan..i actually heard from someone that he didn't feel pain didn't really look into it myself and i have heard that about the movie i really can't wait to watch it also looking forward to spider man 3

#39 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, I did like Deadpool before I ever even knew who he was... really. I used to collect Marvel trading cards, and there was Deadpool. Just something about him appealed to me.

#40 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

HMMM deadpol only won because they wanted him tooo.....the writers

yeah i think its a rip off that wolverine healings is not the same as dps or the other way around.

Some things should really jus be look at....wolverine has fought charcthers that would floor dp or have floored dp.. and he just loses to wade..

if you look at all the advantage wolverine has, years of killing, being made a weapon, more killing, feral..(a human illgellent feral), and a bereker rage

wade may heal but wolverine would crave him as fast as he grows

wade feels pains, when he fougt shen kuel, its shown, i would love to see shen kuel wolverine

#41 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

question though teh only way, i can see wolverine healer improving is because it can and would, the man heals himself his whole body, so i could see his healing factor increasing with age or the need and adparting.. that may not be want others want to hear , but its the only way i see it, if the human body can do amazing things and adapt than what can a super healing mutant do?

hate the healing factor or love it

#42 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool has fought and defeated: Wolverine, Sabretooth, Garrison Kane, Kraven the Hunter, Rhino, Cable, DareDevil, Generation-X, Hulk, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Batroc the Leaper, Punisher, Captain America, Taskmaster, Constrictor, Titania, Iron Fist, Falcon, Goliath, Citizen V, and about 50 others.


He didn't do it with adamantium claws that can cut through damn-near everything, over-glorified temper-tantrums, or fanboyistic writing; he did it with skill, strategy, and anything at his disposal.


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#43 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

And jokes.

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#44 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, and jokes.

#45 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm i used the dp vs hulk one, on a post,, due to jokes and i say he may just be better

jokes= cool

no jokes = not cool..lol

#46 Posted by Christy Lovell (15 posts) - - Show Bio

I would have to go with Wolverine because he may not be able to regenerate as fast, but he did break the guy's, who could regrow limbs, back by kicking him in the nuts really hard.

#47 Posted by Christy Lovell (15 posts) - - Show Bio

DEADPOOL says:

"Deadpool has fought and defeated: Wolverine, Sabretooth, Garrison Kane, Kraven the Hunter, Rhino, Cable, DareDevil, Generation-X, Hulk, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Batroc the Leaper, Punisher, Captain America, Taskmaster, Constrictor, Titania, Iron Fist, Falcon, Goliath, Citizen V, and about 50 others.
He didn't do it with adamantium claws that can cut through damn-near everything, over-glorified temper-tantrums, or fanboyistic writing; he did it with skill, strategy, and anything at his disposal.
Post Edited:2007-03-15 11:45:51"

Wolverine has the ability to learn from his opponets so if they were to fight again, I think that Wolverine might win.

#48 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

Christy Lovell says:

"I would have to go with Wolverine because he may not be able to regenerate as fast, but he did break the guy's, who could regrow limbs, back by kicking him in the nuts really hard."

Wolverine didn't break the dude's back by kicking him in the nuts, that snapping motion is just a reflex that happens when a guy gets hit in the nuts.


Other things that happen is an inability to walk, maybe crying, sometimes coughing, and potential vomitting. Trust me when I say that if a guy gets hit in the nuts hard enough, it feels like every organ in his body shrivels up and it's as if every nerve sends a signal to the brain saying "YOU'RE GONNA DIE!"

Besides, that was a movie... and another page out of Deadpool's book, double whammy.

Christy Lovell says:

Wolverine has the ability to learn from his opponets so if they were to fight again, I think that Wolverine might win."

Deadpool has shown the same ability, such as the first time he fought Taskmaster. Taskmaster was kicking Deadpool's butt with Deadpool's own moves, so Deadpool changed his fighting style... and kicked Taskmaster's butt doing weird dances!

But Wolverine wouldn't be able to learn Deadpool's patterns anyway, because Deadpool is unorthodox and unpredictable.

::NOTE:: Taskmaster has the power to perfectly memorize and mimic any technique he sees, as long as it's within the ability of a normal human.

http://pics.livejournal.com/kassandra05/pic/00007w3b


Post Edited:2007-03-15 13:37:18

#49 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked the Udon Taskmaster thing. It was the only time I really thought he was cool.

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#50 Posted by DEADPOOL (2702 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree. Udon's looked more modern and professional, very cool.