Deadpool (0blivion) vs Albert Wesker (Progenitor)

Wesker doesn't really have the strength to truly knock out Deadpool, in the fights he has in Resident Evil 5 it take him a few hit to knock down a regular soldier. Deadpools healing factor would allow him to take whatever Wesker tries to disses out. The only problem I see is Wesker's speed (which is pretty fast) but Deadpool has once fought someone similar to Wesker before, now in the scan below you can see that Deadpool dodges the first two speed attacks Ajax tries to pull. Ajax is faster then Wesker, in the Marvel handbook Ajax is ranked 4 in speed which mean he has mach 1 (I'd like to put the scan into some context here, Deadpool had been hunted by Ajax for about a day and Deadpool was unarmed that's why he has a sharpened stick).

Now in this battle Deadpool has standard equipment which includes his twin swords. When Wesker tries to punch Deadpool, Deadpool inevitably will be able to dodge and counter attack he has the reflexes and agility to do so. I'd also like to point out that Wesker had trouble against poeple who only had military training, Deadpool is far superior to them is every way.

@nick_hero22: this is a debate for Progenitor and I only, it's for a tournament.

@nick_hero22 said:

@0blivion_ said:

@nick_hero22: this is a debate for Progenitor and I only, it's for a tournament.

Oh

Well I just wanted to throw that information out there.

That's cool.. just thought I'd let you know :)

To his credit I won't say that Deadpool has no chance just a snowballs chance in hell. Wesker in the scenario being Hell of course. He takes the cake.

@progenitor said:

Impressive as Deadpool's showcasing against Ajax may have been, Deadpool's durability has been inconsistent, to say the least. I've seen him go from being ripped in half by Stryfe, to having a near-stalemate of a fisticuffs match against Captain Rogers, to having him defeated by Squirrel Girl. Point being, Wesker's loss against the protagonists in Resident Evil 5 wasn't simply mano-a-mano, he had wrestled with and had RPG missiles explode point-blank in his face with little to no damage to show for it, until having it done a few times, in order for the protagonist to use a plot device involving self-controlled injections which keep Wesker's mutant abilities in check.

Being ripped apart by Stryfe was an alternate Deadpool, I'm going to be using Pre-Way Deadpool for the sake of this debate so we're not taking the fight between Captain America into account. And please Squirrel Girl? you wouldn't bring her up in an Thanos battle thread so don't bring it up here. I try to find the scene where Wesker took an RPG to the face but couldn't find it so can you please post it. Deadpool's durability has not been as inconsistent as people believe, most KO's were done by someone with Superhuman strength but even then Deadpool was court completely off guard but it is a fact that is extremely hard to KO with just physical force alone.

To clear this up, a rumor has been spread about Albert Wesker that the injections he took during Resident Evil 5 were the base of his powers; this is false information, the serum is actually named PG67A/W, and the purpose of the serum wasn't to amp Wesker, it was to stabilize him. It was a Progenitor-based serum which kept the actual viral component which made him a self-made mutant (developed by colleague and former fellow Umbrella researcher, William Birkin). In summation, the serum is to keep Wesker from mutating further from the virus, and taking too much of the serum resulted in it acting almost as a poison, which explains his symptoms of fatigue after being forcefully injected by Chris Redfield, otherwise, Chris, nor Sheva would have been able to lay a finger on him without him allowing it, as shown during the encounter between Chris and Jill.

Here's the thing about Wesker, his feats are against regular people who have had military train and their physical stats would barely be Olympic level. If you convert their feats to the Marvel or DC Universe, Chris Redfield wouldn't be able to compete with the like of Jason Todd, Punisher, Tim Drake and Moon Knight. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to down play anybody, Wesker would be able to take them down but you would agree that Wesker would have more difficulty defeating the characters I named then Chris Redfield right? Now think of this Deadpool is above them. Also the Durability of Chris Redfield, Sheva, Jill and others in the series are of regular human standard and it seems Weskers blows are seemly never enough to keep them down.

Daken technique would work on Wesker as well seeing how he takes his eyes of his opponent. IMO Daken is superior to both Deadpool and Wesker, he could take out Wesker in the same way he did Deadpool. And it's not Deadpool weakness, the technique would work on high tier MA from both DC And Marvel. Deadpool's reaction time was down played in Wolverine: Origins (by Daniel Way), consistently Deadpool's be able to react better then he did in the scans you post. I've posted scans below so you can get an idea of reflexes and agility.

Wesker, having the high ground, would be able to get the jump on Deadpool at the start of the encounter, and while I'm sure Deadpool would be tough to put down, he's definitely not impossible to incapacitate for a victory. Deadpool may have superior martial arts skill, but in this battle, he's outmatched in speed and strength, not to mention Wesker's durability and healing factor, which is, in itself, impressive. Deadpool's blades wouldn't have a lasting effect, nor would his guns, as not only shown by Wesker's durability, but his Teflon-meshed outfit.

Wesker having higher ground means nothing, their not Jedi's. Deadpool might be outmatched in speed but he can make up for that in reaction time and durability not only that but Deadpool's durability and healing factor are superior to Wesker. Deadpool's sword are what give him the edge in this battle as you will see in the scan below. Deadpool has a far better damage output then Wesker.

I'd also like to point out the fact that Wesker not only has training in special forces as captain of S.T.A.R.S. Alpha unit, but also was Head of the Security Division of Umbrella, after having been a scientific researcher. He also spent time with The 3rd Organization, a militaristic governmental division, and TriCell.

Being in charge of units, deivions, Orgs or TriCell have nothing to do with his MA capability's nor does it affect the out come of this battle.

His martial arts are kung-fu based, seeing as his techniques are ordinarily based off of animals, and that, combined with his H2H skills from special forces, makes his fighting style very unorthodox.

Basing attacks from animal even if you combine them special forces skills isn't going to help either. You can see from the scans I've posted Deadpool doesn't f*** around like Wesker does and you can see from my first post that Deadpool will be able to dodge and counter attack.

just pointing out, I was watching that video and um... she blatantly says that source of the power is his virus the serum doesn't make him stronger it maintains his ability to stay normal. And no point out the 'over-rated' point of Wesker's abilities... if you would head me off here please and tell me anything that should make me doubt his abilities

@nick_hero22: Nick Please. Saying he's overrated and proving it are two different things. Chris basically uses a Beretta M9 for a hand gun and is repeatedly firing at Wesker. The firing speed of a beretta is 390 m/s. So what we are talking about is Wesker is dodging multiple shots from Chris at close range without being touched by them and moving an eual distance to the side or forward from the bullets. SO! To put to rest the Wesker moves 45mph at most. He does not. Wesker moves faster than the eye can see because he moves faster than bullets, and in this case it means at LEAST 390m/s.

@nick_hero22: you are once again misreading Nick I stated as above. 'source of the power is his virus' the power comes from the VIRUS. The stability comes from the serum. His ability to control himself comes from the serum, not the ability to be strong. Reread for yourself rocket scientist...

And her feats are her feats. And if she has fans that think she's fast and would do it... I'm sure that they'd say it. Cassandra isn't on trial though you put Wesker on trial for his speed. The point remains the man is faster than a bullet. Overrate that.

@Fetts @nick_hero22 Sorry Fetts! I'll let this guy live in delusional land. Since he obviously can't actually read the difference between the words, power and stability.

A huge mistake in debating against Albert Wesker--albeit, a common one, is that his only feats regard him facing off against the governmental BSAA agents sent after him, or his slaughter of Lord Spencer's entire mansion's worth of security force during the Lost in Nightmares scenario, a prelude to Shadows of the Past, which is the video I posted before of Wesker's encounter with Chris Redfield and Jill Valentine, or hell, even the many deaths he caused in Kijuju. Shortly after his staged "death" by the release of the first model of Tyrant introduced in the first Resident Evil, during which he's gored in a gruesome way, his serum allowed him to heal completely from his wounds, just one example of his healing factor. Shortly after healing, during Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles, he battles his way from the bottom laboratory to the Spencer Estate itself, where he joyously kills countless B.O.W.'s, including the nigh invulnerable Lisa Trevor, who was experimented on with the NE-α Type strain. Not even grenade launchers could kill Lisa Trevor, who was by all means immune to conventional weaponry. Wesker has also defeated 3 Tyrants, just to add more to his resume of defeating enemies that aren't human, and there is still more. Wesker, while quipping sinister observations of her mutation, managed to fight Lisa Trevor off with use of his new powers, and avoid her direct attacks by his agility and speed, until he trapped her beneath the giant chandelier hovering above on the ceiling, leaving her to endure the self-destruct sequence, an explosion which wiped out the entire area.

I checked up on your references and most of them that you named were actual game-play which never transfers well into a battle forums, for example in Umbrella Chronicles when Wesker is making his way through the bottom laboratory to the Spencer Estate, all that's happening Wesker running around and the player is the one doing the firing (killing the B.O.W's), so it depends on the players skill level on whether he make it through. The cut scene with Lisa, once the player shot her health down to it's lowest point a chandelier dropped on her which gave Wesker enough time to escape and then blow up the build, sorry but I don't see how any of that applies to this battle. The serum seemed to have boosted Wesker's healing factor for that one particular event, Wesker in this battle doesn't have the serum so it's a mute point.

I'll give one example of a scan showing Wesker battling a creature far more dangerous than any human; a giant specimen of a Hunter, bred and created by fellow colleague William Birkin, a B.O.W. designed by mixing the genetics of a human with that of a reptile, creating basically what might as well be Killer Croc without the human intelligence. Still, Wesker manages to show his own speed in reflexes when he one-shots the Hunter, when it took the power of a shotgun just to faze this creature.

Below are scans of Dr. Strange helping Deadpool through multiple dimensions, where he was asked to defeat a range of different creature one after another.

So yeah, to counter your argument and end any speculation, accompanied by the animated gif of Wesker blitzing his arm through Chris Redfield's chest, Wesker has what it takes to one-shot Deadpool.

Look I don't don't doubt that he has the strength to put his arm through someone but what I'm saying is that he wont get the chance to, Chris dodge it by side stepping, Chris, a regular human, not only that he's done it throughout the whole game. Deadpool reflexes (which you have admitted) are better then Chris's, so how is Wesker going to just going to one-shot Deadpool? and I don't know if you forgetting or not taking into account the first scan I posted but you can see how similar your Wesker GIF is to Ajax's attack maybe if I post them together.

But in this encounter Deadpool will have his sword which will far greater damage then mere bullets or knife not that I'm underestimating Wesker's healing factor but I'm sure he would have trouble replacing limb.

If you're trying to use a specific Deadpool, you specify this at the start of the tournament when you're enlisting your character. Otherwise, by those standards, I could use Wesker pre-Kijuju and ignore his low-end feats all together. You take the good with the bad, and the fact is, Deadpool had a fisticuffs fight with not Captain America with a shield, but Captain Rogers, who managed to hold his own against Deadpool and even mess Deadpool up a bit, that which I also have scans of, if need be posted.

Yes, I understand that I should of said from the start that I wanted to use pre-Way Deadpool. So if we're taking the low's with the high's should I post the fight between Deadpool and the X-men were Deadpool dodged Cyclops optic blast, Domino guns fire and Surge's electrical attack all at once? or when Deadpool defeated the Thunderbolts? (Ghost, Ant-Man, Black Widow, Paladin and Headsmen) I'm just saying with Way's writing their are low & their are high's that don't consist with Deadpool other runs. IMO The fight between Captain Rogers was ok, not great but not bad and Deadpool held back more then not, he does look up to Rogers and has a lot of respect for him, I mean at the start of the match Deadpool wouldn't even fight back.

As for Wesker and tanking the RPG missiles point blank in his face while wrestling with it in pitch dark just to momentarily faze him, this is the second boss fight in which this takes place, the prelude to this boss battle is also another testament to the fact that Wesker not only dodges firearms after they've been fired, but wrecks 2 highly capable government agents, who are constantly low-balled when mentioned in their fight against Albert Wesker. Chris Redfield has defeated countless powerful B.O.W.'s, such as Alexia Ashford, who's T-Veronica virus gave her the powers of pyrokinesis and geokinesis. Nevertheless, this is the example and showing of Wesker tanking RPG missiles.

Wesker tanking a RPG missile point blank is a great durability feat BUT I'm not trying to make a case where Deadpool is going to defeat Wesker with explosives, I'm saying that Deadpool's swords can and will be able to cut Wesker, Deadpool swords also can and will be able to cut off limbs. Wesker is highly durable but he's not immune to bladed attacks. Now I've shown that Deadpool is able to dodge an attack from Wesker and even if does land a few hit like he did to Chris Redfield, thanks to Deadpool healing factor Wesker's hits wont do any lasting damage. Here a scan of Deadpool fighting Warpath who is in the few ton range.

Wesker's experience with Umbrella, S.T.A.R.S., The 3rd Organization, & TriCell all do have to do with his fighting skills, which have constantly been shown to be above average, only accentuated by his superior speed, strength, & reaction time. Having the higher ground at the start of the fight would allow a definite advantage for Wesker, seeing as he could whip out his S&W magnum and start putting holes in Deadpool from an unseen vantage

In the scans below and make sure you read them, you can see Deadpool dodging fire and missiles from multiple angels with no trouble.

or hell, even the Samurai Edge he still carries from his days in S.T.A.R.S., because while Deadpool has decent enough reflex-timing, Deadpool tends to allow himself to take as much damage to himself as he attempts to dish out--often taking even more damage than he dishes out.

Wesker would be better off not using a gun IMO. That's not completely true about Deadpool taking more Damage in an attempt to do Damage, I can show you plenty of scan were Deadpool is dodging opponents attack even taking on squads of army guys without being tagged. I know why you would think that though write of late have been exploiting Deadpool's healing factor.

Albert Wesker is in the league with those with genius-level intellect, which, almost without saying, means he could easily outsmart Deadpool. As for Wesker "F**king" around during battles, this is almost astounding, considering Deadpool ordinarily sings, dances, obsesses over zombies, talks to himself, and above all else is just absolutely batsh!t in his own right, so to say that Deadpool would be taking this fight seriously while Wesker wouldn't is false. Wesker toyed with Chris Redfield because of their dramatic past involving Chris in the first game.

Genius-level intellect doesn't mean Wesker's a combat strategist, granted he is a genius that can create Boss B.O.W's but if mostly tries to over power his opponents, remember Chris Redfield out smarted Wesker. Deadpool in recent run's has been to be the one who might f*** around but Deadpool consistently does take his fights seriously, I know Deadpool in his entire career has dance once so it can be said that dancing during a fight wont happen and was not necessary to bring up, sing have never happen during a fight, I don't no where you got "obsesses over zombies" from but it that's false. It's obvious that the only aspect of Deadpool you know is the most recent one and in every scan I posted Deadpool is taking the fight seriously. Saying Wesker would be the one to f*** around was the wrong choice of word on my behalf but he's does really try to straight out kill Chris Redfield or Sheva Alomar.

Fact is, Albert Wesker and his speedster-bursts far outmatch Deadpool's reaction time, and there is absolutely nothing in Deadpool's standard gear that can put Wesker down--much less harm him, while Wesker could simply decide to blitz Deadpool and put his hand through Deadpool's chest, leaving Deadpool incapacitated in order to heal, also leaving Wesker the winner of the match. Deadpool's firearms would have no effect on Wesker, Deadpool's blades would have no lasting impact on Wesker, due to his own healing factor, while Wesker has the brute power to one-shot Deadpool, as proven above in the scans.

No it's not, I've show you the scan of Deadpool dodging Ajax twice, Ajax is rank four in speed which means Mach 1, Chris Redfleild can dodge the arm through the chest attack and we both know that Deadpool is far superior to Chris Redfield, like I said before if you take Chris Redfield feats and transfer him in the Marvel & DC Uni he wouldn't be able to compete with the likes of Jason Todd, Moon Knight, Punisher and others. Deadpool can and will be able to dodge Wesker I provided scans to back up back case. Deadpool Swords can cut off limbs, heads and also cut someone in half. I posted a scan below of Deadpool sword cutting through robotic leg. So Deadpool he able to leave lasting injury's via amputation of the limbs and/or head.

Deadpool is a highly capable fighter, but in this case, Albert Wesker outclasses him physically, and mentally. It would only be a matter of time until Wesker rips his heart out to incapacitate him, puts a few rounds in his head to incapacitate him, or simply beat on Deadpool faster than he can heal, majority going to Wesker. Lastly, here is another animated gif showing Wesker's speed, which gives the appearance of teleporting, considering his stance doesn't even change when he moves, only a tuft of smoke left behind where he was. Wesker takes this round.

I only thing Wesker has over Deadpool is his speed and I've posted scans of Deadpool being able to over come that. Deadpool would be able to get in the hits he needs to win before Wesker could wear down Deadpool enough to line up his arm through the chest shot. Chris Redfield was taking hit after hit from Wesker and kept getting back up, it would take Wesker a substantially longer amount of time before Deadpool even start to show fatigue. Deadpool is far more durable and has a healing factor to boot. The GIF has been speed up and I've all seen it anyway. I provided proof that Deapdool can and will over come Wesker speed, Deadpool sword will be able to slice through Wesker, Deadpool durability and healing factor will allow him to last long enough to pull off a victory.

In short Deadpool will face a tough opponent but it would be something he hasn't seen before, Deadpool will be able to defeat Wesker in one hell of a fight taking a small majority.

@progenitor: that's okay. I'll post my reply tomorrow, the computer I'm on right now hasn't got the scans I need.

this is a great battle.

Now that I think about it, I said what I've wanted to say. Only people who have read the debate can vote, I guess we begin voting..

I vote Wesktacular.

indeed he did. Congrats dude.

@nick_hero22 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@nick_hero22: Cassandra Cain isn't that fast. Compared to Batman sure, but once we get to superhumans she's outclassed.

Since Cassandra Cain isn't that fast you wouldn't mind showing me some of Wesker's speed feats that surpasses the ones I posted.

Personally i call most of those PIS.Cass is very fast but she has no physical enhancements making her peak human.Because of the fact that she isnt super human (And we know this because you cant be born super human it just doesnt work)Then she cant be a fast as someone who is super human case closed

BTW Cap Rodgers and i already did this.You guys ripped off the whole idea!

@nick_hero22 I swear at this rate I'm going to have to do all the math for each character to get their speed legit so we can all see that Wesker's speed is not over-rated, he is merely just insanely fast! I mean he's not faster than some people I'm sure, and his body gets run down after so much battle and trying to fight back his mutation with a lack of serum becomes trouble, but that's only if that battle lasts long enough to get it there. In this case I didn't really classify that as a battle. There was no fighting going on here, just debating who is stronger and faster and durable. Which is fine because that's how they chose to do it, but the duration of the fight can't be classified so we can't know if this battle was long enough for Wesker to become unstable. Either was Sherlock was on the money. Humans can't even be classified with augmented or super humans. Its just wrong to class them that way. Its like saying Batman has great feats so lets compare him with Superman.