DC's Ultimate Heroes vs Marvel's Omega Mutants

Team DC 
 
Superman Prime One Million 
 

Star Sapphire Wonder Woman 
 

Kyle Rayner (Original Ion) 
 

Lord Marvel 
 

versus 
 
 
 
Team Marvel 
  
Jean Grey (with all the powers of the Phoenix) 
 

Franklin Richards
 

Scarlet Witch (House of M) 
 

Nate Grey (Shaman) 
 

all are in full power.. 
 
which team would you guys think would win in an all out bloodlusted battle??? 
 
all comments are welcome..

 

I figure with 2 reality warpers on their team Marvel can take this.

I figure (and I could be wrong) that Ion is probably a Phoenix level threat but with 2 Phoenix level powers (one of which is the Phoenix :P) on their side marvel can take him.

Lord Marvel and this superman is a bit of a worry cause I don't know exactly how much they can do. (why is Superman wearing the crossgen symbol?)
 
I figure Star Saphire Wonder Woman is probably the weak link power wise here. Yes she is immensly strong and has the power of a star saphire but I don't think that stacks up with the rest of these players.

1 Million or Ion can probably solo

When are you guys going to realize that DC pours the superpowers on too heavy. XD. Everyone freaking speed blitzes because that's what DC does.

"When are you guys going to realize that DC pours the superpowers on too heavy. XD. Everyone freaking speed blitzes because that's what DC does. "

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

" @Red_Blade said:

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

can they? "

" @Red_Blade said:

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

can they? "

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Red_Blade said:

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

can they? "

Yeah, Wanda's powers are unreliable [no more mutants, and ended up missing 200] As far as I know, Nate at peak was on par with Dark Phoenix, and Franklin isnt on either of their levels. "

Prime and Ion are the key players to the DC victory

" @Red_Blade said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Red_Blade said:

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

can they? "

Yeah, Wanda's powers are unreliable [no more mutants, and ended up missing 200] As far as I know, Nate at peak was on par with Dark Phoenix, and Franklin isnt on either of their levels. "

She didn't miss jack. XD Read the comic it explains it pretty well.  Even if it was part PIS. "

" @Lupine said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Red_Blade said:

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

can they? "

Yeah, Wanda's powers are unreliable [no more mutants, and ended up missing 200] As far as I know, Nate at peak was on par with Dark Phoenix, and Franklin isnt on either of their levels. "

She didn't miss jack. XD Read the comic it explains it pretty well.  Even if it was part PIS. "

I think nearly 200 mutants counts as jack, Wanda's powers are unreliable and not really that powerful to begin with "

" @Red_Blade said:

" @Lupine said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Red_Blade said:

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

can they? "

Yeah, Wanda's powers are unreliable [no more mutants, and ended up missing 200] As far as I know, Nate at peak was on par with Dark Phoenix, and Franklin isnt on either of their levels. "

She didn't miss jack. XD Read the comic it explains it pretty well.  Even if it was part PIS. "

I think nearly 200 mutants counts as jack, Wanda's powers are unreliable and not really that powerful to begin with "

Read the comic. lol. That was my point and the only point I was making. So read it as you will. Nothing unreliable about her powers, maybe her frame of mind, but not her powers. "

" @Lupine said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Red_Blade said:

"1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

can they? "

Yeah, Wanda's powers are unreliable [no more mutants, and ended up missing 200] As far as I know, Nate at peak was on par with Dark Phoenix, and Franklin isnt on either of their levels. "

She didn't miss jack. XD Read the comic it explains it pretty well.  Even if it was part PIS. "

I think nearly 200 mutants counts as jack, Wanda's powers are unreliable and not really that powerful to begin with "

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i beg to disagree.. the Scarlet Witch's Chaos Magic Reality Warping Powers are not to be taken lightly.. What she did during the House of M completely changed the possible futures of Marvel.. Doctor strange himself stated that what Wanda did so completely changed reality itself that one cannot distinguish where reality ends and her alteration of it begins.. Beast even stated that such power can't possibly be in one person.. her feats during the House of M was beyond remarkable as she able to affect even the alternate realities, strongly implying she was of sufficient power to permanently change the Multiverse itself, which is nearly unprecedented, even by cosmic entities.

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" Franklin Richards, Scarlet Witch and Phoenix Force... way too much.. DC Universe will no longer exist if these individuals combined all they have. "

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

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i beg to disagree.. the Scarlet Witch's Chaos Magic Reality Warping Powers are not to be taken lightly.. What she did during the House of M completely changed the possible futures of Marvel.. Doctor strange himself stated that what Wanda did so completely changed reality itself that one cannot distinguish where reality ends and her alteration of it begins.. Beast even stated that such power can't possibly be in one person.. her feats during the House of M was beyond remarkable as she able to affect even the alternate realities, strongly implying she was of sufficient power to permanently change the Multiverse itself, which is nearly unprecedented, even by cosmic entities.

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Thats the power of the chaos wave, that isnt Wandas power, its the result of her using her power "

" @Red_Blade said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

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i beg to disagree.. the Scarlet Witch's Chaos Magic Reality Warping Powers are not to be taken lightly.. What she did during the House of M completely changed the possible futures of Marvel.. Doctor strange himself stated that what Wanda did so completely changed reality itself that one cannot distinguish where reality ends and her alteration of it begins.. Beast even stated that such power can't possibly be in one person.. her feats during the House of M was beyond remarkable as she able to affect even the alternate realities, strongly implying she was of sufficient power to permanently change the Multiverse itself, which is nearly unprecedented, even by cosmic entities.

"

Thats the power of the chaos wave, that isnt Wandas power, its the result of her using her power "

Can you explain the practical difference there? "

Yeah, Wanda's powers are unreliable [no more mutants, and ended up missing 200] As far as I know, Nate at peak was on par with Dark Phoenix, and Franklin isnt on either of their levels. "

" @Red_Blade said:

Yeah, Wanda's powers are unreliable [no more mutants, and ended up missing 200] As far as I know, Nate at peak was on par with Dark Phoenix, and Franklin isnt on either of their levels. "

Didn't onslought use Franklins powers to make a second sun? he also created his own pocket dimension. Surely this is a fair amout of power. "

" @Griffin_2099 said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

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i beg to disagree.. the Scarlet Witch's Chaos Magic Reality Warping Powers are not to be taken lightly.. What she did during the House of M completely changed the possible futures of Marvel.. Doctor strange himself stated that what Wanda did so completely changed reality itself that one cannot distinguish where reality ends and her alteration of it begins.. Beast even stated that such power can't possibly be in one person.. her feats during the House of M was beyond remarkable as she able to affect even the alternate realities, strongly implying she was of sufficient power to permanently change the Multiverse itself, which is nearly unprecedented, even by cosmic entities.

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Thats the power of the chaos wave, that isnt Wandas power, its the result of her using her power "

Can you explain the practical difference there? "

Thats like saying a fuse can blow up a building because it lights a bomb It isnt her power "

" @Red_Blade said:

" @Griffin_2099 said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

"

i beg to disagree.. the Scarlet Witch's Chaos Magic Reality Warping Powers are not to be taken lightly.. What she did during the House of M completely changed the possible futures of Marvel.. Doctor strange himself stated that what Wanda did so completely changed reality itself that one cannot distinguish where reality ends and her alteration of it begins.. Beast even stated that such power can't possibly be in one person.. her feats during the House of M was beyond remarkable as she able to affect even the alternate realities, strongly implying she was of sufficient power to permanently change the Multiverse itself, which is nearly unprecedented, even by cosmic entities.

"

Thats the power of the chaos wave, that isnt Wandas power, its the result of her using her power "

Can you explain the practical difference there? "

Thats like saying a fuse can blow up a building because it lights a bomb It isnt her power "

But as long as she has access to that power and can use it in the fight what difference is there. When you look at a stick of dynamite you don't attack the red tube you try to pull out the fuse on the end cause without it the red tube is fairly harmless (most of the time). "

" @Red_Blade:  But she uses it twice without showing a great amount of effort. Where does it say she can not tap into it at will? "

" @Griffin_2099 said:

" @Red_Blade:  But she uses it twice without showing a great amount of effort. Where does it say she can not tap into it at will? "

Because it isn't her power, what part of that do you not understand? Not only that, its unreliable, it only formed because she was using her own power. "

Prime has no feats.
 
Marvel wins.

"Prime has no feats.  Marvel wins. "

" 1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

Oh look, he's typing in all caps now, I think hes butthurt still 
 
Just leave Phoenix child

White Phoenix hold the universe in her hands.

against superman,

she will create a ton of  Kryptonite .(i think it will have no effect,cause he is prime)

and superman goes down.

you have just no either what white phoenix can do.

it beyond her imagine of her power level.

White phoenix destroy them all.

" 1 Million or Ion can probably solo "

I agree.

no doubt about it.

and one thing superman is still a man,

no god.

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I agree.

no doubt about it.

and one thing superman is still a man,

no god.

"

Oo,thanks

now i know

i taught he is some kind of man,cause the name of superman

yeah ,what i mean is he is a man like us.

the mutants win, just so much power!

DC blowout. 

"I believe White Pheonix and Franklin take the win here. White Pheonix is a universal level being. I primal power that can create and destroy at will. She did hold the universe in her palm at one point. And if i remember correctly, full power Franklin was only limited by his imagination. He could probably just will the DC team out of existence. SW and Nate are not a factor. But with all the reality warpers on the Marvel side, i'll go with them "

DC team wins very easily 
White Phoenix is pathetic

Wanda's powers are a mess 
Franklin has been stated to be as powerful as a Ceslstial and Nate on par with Dark Phoenix, neither even close to Ion or 1 million  
 
Ion and 1 million would be more then enough to spank the mutants    

"@Dolph_Zigglar : I have a feeling that you're a troll, but I'll bite. The Pheonix force is the nexus for all psionic energy in the universe, and the universal force for life. It is the Guardian of all of creation. Without it, life would not exist. In the "Here Comes Tomorrow" storyline, the White Phoenix held the entire universe in her hands, and transcended time to push Scott to live. I'm Pretty sure no one on DC side has the power to hold the universe in their hands. 1 point major point Marvel 2nd point-Franklin Richards at full power is a reality and matter manipulator of cosmic proportions. At only a fraction of his power, he created a pocket universe in which he held the heroes in the "Heroes Reborn" storyline. At this point, he is still a child. Anyone who could create a universe as a child, should be able to do ridiculous things at full power Now, I understand Superman 1 million is a beast, and so is Ion, but neither one of them have had control of universes at a whim. Both Phoenix and Franklin have. So to you, Mr. Zigglar, I will respectfully disagree with your statement. Marvel takes this. And by the way, You're an idiot "

DC takes this. 

Marvel takes this

DC wins. Neither Franklin Richards or X-Man can stand up against Ion and 1 Million Superman. I'm unsure of Lord Marvel, since he's very powerful but apparently doesn't use the Wisdom of Solomon.

@biggkeem89:marvels rule :)

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@biggkeem89:marvels rule :)

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