#1 Edited by Macest128 (806 posts) - - Show Bio

Penguin

Elephant Man

Gorrila Grodd

Killer Croc

Copperhead

vs

Mole Man

Rhino

Sabretooth

Lizard

Scorpion

#2 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

whos moe man, the bartender in the simpsons?

#3 Posted by Macest128 (806 posts) - - Show Bio

@demifiend: sorry i Ment Mole Man

#4 Posted by Saren (25217 posts) - - Show Bio

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

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#5 Posted by Macest128 (806 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

Sabretooth, Rhino,Copperhead,Mole Man, Lizard, With His Army Could Take On Gorrila Grod

#6 Posted by Saren (25217 posts) - - Show Bio

@Macest128 said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

Sabretooth, Rhino,Copperhead,Mole Man, Lizard, With His Army Could Take On Gorrila Grod

None of them would withstand Grodd's mindrape.

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#7 Posted by Macest128 (806 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Macest128 said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

Sabretooth, Rhino,Copperhead,Mole Man, Lizard, With His Army Could Take On Gorrila Grod

None of them would withstand Grodd's mindrape.

How About We Set These Fights individualy Witch Team Will Get More Wins?

Penguin vs Mole Man

Elephant Man vs Rhino

Gorrila Grodd vs Sabretooth

Killer Croc vs Lizard

Copperhead vs Skorpion

#8 Posted by Saren (25217 posts) - - Show Bio

@Macest128 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Macest128 said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

Sabretooth, Rhino,Copperhead,Mole Man, Lizard, With His Army Could Take On Gorrila Grod

None of them would withstand Grodd's mindrape.

How About We Set These Fights individualy Witch Team Will Get More Wins?

Penguin vs Mole Man

Elephant Man vs Rhino

Gorrila Grodd vs Sabretooth

Killer Croc vs Lizard

Copperhead vs Skorpion

Marvel, because you picked a bunch of idiots to represent DC.

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#9 Posted by Macest128 (806 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Macest128 said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Macest128 said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

Sabretooth, Rhino,Copperhead,Mole Man, Lizard, With His Army Could Take On Gorrila Grod

None of them would withstand Grodd's mindrape.

How About We Set These Fights individualy Witch Team Will Get More Wins?

Penguin vs Mole Man

Elephant Man vs Rhino

Gorrila Grodd vs Sabretooth

Killer Croc vs Lizard

Copperhead vs Skorpion

Marvel, because you picked a bunch of idiots to represent DC.

Hey Rhino Is Just As Stupid And As Strong As Elephant Man!

#10 Posted by PreyingMantis (161 posts) - - Show Bio

I doubt anyone on Marvel can withstand Grodd's mind attacks.

#11 Posted by Macest128 (806 posts) - - Show Bio

@PreyingMantis said:

I doubt anyone on Marvel can withstand Grodd's mind attacks.

Ultron Can withstand Grodd's mind attack

#12 Posted by Saren (25217 posts) - - Show Bio

@PreyingMantis said:

I doubt anyone on Marvel can withstand Grodd's mind attacks.

Plenty of people can. Grodd is a powerful telepath, but not as powerful as people like Xavier or Nate Grey. I'd put him on or slightly below Shadow King's level.

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#13 Posted by PreyingMantis (161 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry, I meant to clarify that the people on Marvel side of the battle. Of course there are much better telepaths in the Marvel U.

#14 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.


I was thinking the exact same thing.
#15 Posted by Killemall (18173 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

#16 Posted by chalkshark (1180 posts) - - Show Bio

If you took Gorilla Grodd out of the equation, than Marvel's villains would win. Marvel's villains have all the super powers. While Killer Croc is a formidable foe for Batman, he's still just an ordinary guy, albeit one with a skin condition that makes him look reptilian. Conversely, The Lizard is an actual scaly horror with greater speed, strength, & dexterity than any ordinary man. After the Lizard & Sabretooth eat The Penguin, Copperhead, & Killer Croc, Marvel's villains dog pile The Elephant Man, & it's over. Gorilla Grodd is the only reason the DC villains would win, & with him, they'd win quickly & easily.

#17 Posted by Saren (25217 posts) - - Show Bio

@chalkshark said:

If you took Gorilla Grodd out of the equation, than Marvel's villains would win. Marvel's villains have all the super powers. While Killer Croc is a formidable foe for Batman, he's still just an ordinary guy, albeit one with a skin condition that makes him look reptilian. Conversely, The Lizard is an actual scaly horror with greater speed, strength, & dexterity than any ordinary man. After the Lizard & Sabretooth eat The Penguin, Copperhead, & Killer Croc, Marvel's villains dog pile The Elephant Man, & it's over. Gorilla Grodd is the only reason the DC villains would win, & with him, they'd win quickly & easily.

First off, Killer Croc has enhanced speed, strength and durability. And secondly, yes, without Grodd the Marvel villains would win easily, because as I said above the OP has picked a bunch of idiots to represent DC.

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#18 Posted by entropy_aegis (14116 posts) - - Show Bio

@chalkshark said:

If you took Gorilla Grodd out of the equation, than Marvel's villains would win. Marvel's villains have all the super powers. While Killer Croc is a formidable foe for Batman, he's still just an ordinary guy, albeit one with a skin condition that makes him look reptilian. Conversely, The Lizard is an actual scaly horror with greater speed, strength, & dexterity than any ordinary man. After the Lizard & Sabretooth eat The Penguin, Copperhead, & Killer Croc, Marvel's villains dog pile The Elephant Man, & it's over. Gorilla Grodd is the only reason the DC villains would win, & with him, they'd win quickly & easily.

Modern Croc was given the Hush virus,this makes his skin harder than it was previously,gives him enhanced speed and senses,superstrength(3-5 tons) and a healing factor.But yeah he ain't doing anything to Lizard.

#19 Posted by hyiena (1790 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

I thought tooth had to resistance.

#20 Posted by Saren (25217 posts) - - Show Bio

@hyiena said:

@CitizenBane:

I thought tooth had to resistance.

To Grodd? Not a chance.

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#21 Posted by Macest128 (806 posts) - - Show Bio

whizert

#22 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

#23 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3893 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Killemall said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

even on Sabretooth? he already had powerful resistance from tp intrusion and attack from the weapons program, and then Wolverine stabbed him in the brain making it even harder for telepathy to work on him, at one point I think he even says it doesn't really work on him anymore when Psylocke stabs him with a full force psi blade in the danger room. I know resistance isn't immunity, but with somebody like Sabretooth it should be enough he nearly killed Besty after her powers didn't work and this was back when she was considered to be among the top telepaths in the world as classified by Onslaught issues later, unless of course all of this has changed as of now.

#24 Posted by TypH (374 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel all the way!

#25 Posted by nickthedevil (11408 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought sabretooth had immunity when he would go feral? Or is that wolverine?

#26 Posted by Saren (25217 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Killemall said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

even on Sabretooth? he already had powerful resistance from tp intrusion and attack from the weapons program, and then Wolverine stabbed him in the brain making it even harder for telepathy to work on him, at one point I think he even says it doesn't really work on him anymore when Psylocke stabs him with a full force psi blade in the danger room. I know resistance isn't immunity, but with somebody like Sabretooth it should be enough he nearly killed Besty after her powers didn't work and this was back when she was considered to be among the top telepaths in the world as classified by Onslaught issues later, unless of course all of this has changed as of now.

Telepaths are supposed to have an uphill battle with Wolverine as well, and yet both Mr. X and Tomi Shishido have used telepathy on him without a problem. Flash is also supposed to have a high level of resistance to TP, since he can accelerate his thoughts to a level where telepaths can't keep track of them. Grodd's TP works on him almost every time. But even if it didn't, Grodd has super-strength and incredible durability; he's taken hundreds of high-speed punches from Wally and shrugged them off, and at those speeds Wally hits a lot harder than Creed. If need be, Grodd can beat him in a physical fight.

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#27 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

#28 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11475 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't Lizard have some type of TP after shed?

#29 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (3893 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Killemall said:

@CitizenBane said:

Grodd solos. Mindrape.

even on Sabretooth? he already had powerful resistance from tp intrusion and attack from the weapons program, and then Wolverine stabbed him in the brain making it even harder for telepathy to work on him, at one point I think he even says it doesn't really work on him anymore when Psylocke stabs him with a full force psi blade in the danger room. I know resistance isn't immunity, but with somebody like Sabretooth it should be enough he nearly killed Besty after her powers didn't work and this was back when she was considered to be among the top telepaths in the world as classified by Onslaught issues later, unless of course all of this has changed as of now.

Telepaths are supposed to have an uphill battle with Wolverine as well, and yet both Mr. X and Tomi Shishido have used telepathy on him without a problem. Flash is also supposed to have a high level of resistance to TP, since he can accelerate his thoughts to a level where telepaths can't keep track of them. Grodd's TP works on him almost every time. But even if it didn't, Grodd has super-strength and incredible durability; he's taken hundreds of high-speed punches from Wally and shrugged them off, and at those speeds Wally hits a lot harder than Creed. If need be, Grodd can beat him in a physical fight.

Wolverines resistance is different from Sabretooths, they both have the weapons program tampering and the ability to make their thoughts so animal that telepaths have trouble, but when Wolverine stabbed him in the head it was said that telepathy no longer worked on him and was proved when a telepath tried to mindrape him with the full force of her psi power and it did nothing adding to what he already had to protect him. Flashes resistance is based on the speed of his thoughts, not actual psi screen implants, mind control and brain damage. Him taking a punch from Flash is also different from what he will encounter with Creed, I have never seen Sabretooth throw a punch, he uses his claws which can rend steel and has a fair amount of superhuman strength (able to toss mini-vans) durability and a healing factor as well. Grodd will not have an easy fight with him no matter what he has taken from Flash, and IMO if Flash had to hit him hundreds of times it stands to reason that the punches were not as hard as you are trying to make them seem or it would not take as many.

#30 Posted by joshmightbe (24458 posts) - - Show Bio

Comes down to Grodd due to mind control or Mole Man due to his control of giant monsters, tho Grodd could most likely over ride Mole Man's control and use the monsters against him

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#31 Posted by mextli (648 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: that is what I am thinking but i dont think it is close to the level of grodd anyway.

#32 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11475 posts) - - Show Bio

@mextli: I knew it wasn't on Grodd's level but I think he could at least give Grodd trouble. I think Lizard's Tp makes people erratic by effecting the reptilian part of the brain. So maybe he could cause the other team trouble.

#33 Posted by mextli (648 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: True, but while it would definitely mess up the rest of his team, Grodd would probably be able to shrug it off and eventually shut Lizard down in a tp battle