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#1 Posted by krspaceT (1509 posts) - - Show Bio

Static, Wonder Girl, Miss Martian, Superboy, Bunker, Atlee (Terra 3) and Blue Beetle

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But, the Hulk will have the Juggernaut's helmet, or something similar, just so Miss Martian cannot just brain fry him.

#2 Posted by Voodoom (174 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually Hulk has some mean mental defenes on his own. Much as I would love to say DC young heroes I don't think they have the firepower here. Plus they can try to contain him (Bunker, Terra, Static, Wonder Girl) they will just make him more mad and threfore stronger.

#3 Posted by krspaceT (1509 posts) - - Show Bio

@Voodoom: The Blue Beetle suit has weapons that can hurt the Specter. Who says it can't stop Gamma power. The Hulk isn't impervious.

#4 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5656 posts) - - Show Bio

When did the Blue Beetle harm the Spectre? Scans please?

#5 Posted by cattlebattle (13347 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk gets a butt whoopin

#6 Edited by Voodoom (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT: You mean the anti-magic bubble? True but if it was anti magic its useless against Hulk. The question is does the suit have a weapon (and is the suit willing to use it) to take out Hulk before he takes them out.

And yes Hulk stood next to a hit and shattered a planet and was fine. The problem with the Blue Beetle Armor argument is there there is alot of assumption on what can exactly do. It seems to be a problem solving armor, but its problem is its argues with him.

#7 Posted by krspaceT (1509 posts) - - Show Bio

@WaveMotionCannon: Its implied, not actually shown. Its on the page here

#8 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT said:

@WaveMotionCannon: Its implied, not actually shown. Its on the page here

Spectre wasn't hurt.

#9 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5656 posts) - - Show Bio

What page? I'll go with Hulk FTW.

#10 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

I think these kids would beat the hulk

#11 Posted by krspaceT (1509 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: I'd hope they could

#12 Posted by eatmore_payless (2209 posts) - - Show Bio

SUPERBOY SOLOS WITH RELATIVE EASE

#13 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8439 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy can take Hulk alone. The rest just make the fight really easy.

#14 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

i'll say teamwork wins this, they just have to knock off hulk's helmet. besides, miss martian has many support powers, she can turn team mates invisible, do psychic links

#15 Posted by Strider92 (16823 posts) - - Show Bio

Couldn't Superboy solo?

Anyway the team wins this.

#16 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34928 posts) - - Show Bio

Blue could solo this IMO

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#17 Posted by KainScion (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty: how can superboy solo?? hes not versatile, not very smart, not even full-kryptonian. please tell me how he solos

#18 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion said:

@Lady_Liberty: how can superboy solo?? hes not versatile, not very smart, not even full-kryptonian. please tell me how he solos

Versatile? What about his opponent? I don't want to say S Boy solo, because I'm not sure I have the strength feats to back that up (but I figure he could because I think he's not far behind other kryptonians). But in terms of versatility, he has strength (like the hulk), probably better durability, speed, flight, heat vision, arctic breath?, an TK. That's pretty versatile no?

#19 Posted by KainScion (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: tk is how he has superstrength. no arctic breath none that i have seen. heat vision cant do anything to the hulk than give him a tan, in a more recent number of incredible hulk he is shown chilling in a lava pit/hole thingy, so heat vision is out. speed ok you got him there. hulk has an insane HF, he grew hands in like a 1 min and something. imo conner is not hulk strength level. but with the team IF (big if) they gang-up on him maybe they have a shot.

#20 Posted by KainScion (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: forgot superboy is 50/50. half superman half luthor. so hes only half way superman.

#21 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87 said:

Blue could solo this IMO

@eatmore_payless said:

SUPERBOY SOLOS WITH RELATIVE EASE

@Strider92 said:

Couldn't Superboy solo?

Anyway the team wins this.

@Lady_Liberty said:

Superboy can take Hulk alone. The rest just make the fight really easy.

Hulk is physically stronger than all of them. Even Superboy...

#22 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion said:

@vuviper: tk is how he has superstrength. no arctic breath none that i have seen. heat vision cant do anything to the hulk than give him a tan, in a more recent number of incredible hulk he is shown chilling in a lava pit/hole thingy, so heat vision is out. speed ok you got him there. hulk has an insane HF, he grew hands in like a 1 min and something. imo conner is not hulk strength level. but with the team IF (big if) they gang-up on him maybe they have a shot.

No he has actually superstrength on top of his TK. I don't remember if he ever used artic breath, but if his heat vision is anything like superman it's much hotter than a lava pit. And Gladiato's heat vision alone got through to Hulk's heart before Gladiator let him grab his face.

#23 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34928 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant: that doesn't mean BB cant beat him 
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#24 Posted by KainScion (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: And Gladiato's heat vision alone got through to Hulk's heart before Gladiator let him grab his face.

?!?!?!? WTF?!?! gladiator didnt let hulk grab his face, he just did. gladiator was coming in for the kill, but even with his heart exposed he beat the f out of him. and that is an old comic he has become much stronger since then. and i keep saying he is half kryptonian. half the juice.

#25 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8439 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: I've never seen any feats from Hulk that make me think he could take out someone like Superboy.

All Hulk has is strength, limited durability, and regeneration. That's not going to cut it here.

#26 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion said:

@vuviper: And Gladiato's heat vision alone got through to Hulk's heart before Gladiator let him grab his face.

?!?!?!? WTF?!?! gladiator didnt let hulk grab his face, he just did. gladiator was coming in for the kill, but even with his heart exposed he beat the f out of him. and that is an old comic he has become much stronger since then. and i keep saying he is half kryptonian. half the juice.

I just mean if he wasn't fighting stupid, he'd have simply flown backwards when hulk tried to grab his face.

And even if that were an accurate way of measuring his strength, 1/2 of superman's, that's be much much greater than Hulk's strength level

#27 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87 said:

@jeanroygrant: that doesn't mean BB cant beat him

How does Blue Beetle beat him?

#28 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty said:

@jeanroygrant: I've never seen any feats from Hulk that make me think he could take out someone like Superboy.

All Hulk has is strength, limited durability, and regeneration. That's not going to cut it here.

Superboy feats?

#29 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34928 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@jeanroygrant: that doesn't mean BB cant beat him

How does Blue Beetle beat him?

By flying in to orbit and pummelling him with some some sort anti radiation weapon, BFR
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#30 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@jeanroygrant: that doesn't mean BB cant beat him

How does Blue Beetle beat him?

By flying in to orbit and pummelling him with some some sort anti radiation weapon, BFR

I see.

#31 Posted by krspaceT (1509 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Blue Beetle and Superboy are fan faves I see

#32 Posted by Immortal777 (7735 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy can solo better physically and can BFR

Wonder girl can solo if her lasso is like Wonder Womans Incapacitaion or BFR

BB may be able to solo BFR

MM could solo BFR

Terra could solo if she can BFR

#33 Posted by Voodoom (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT said:

Static, Wonder Girl, Miss Martian, Superboy, Bunker, Atlee (Terra 3) and Blue Beetle

Vs

But, the Hulk will have the Juggernaut's helmet, or something similar, just so Miss Martian cannot just brain fry him.

Which version of the Hulk are we talking about here. Are we talking WWH? Banner Hulk, Current Hulk what?

Becaues depending on the version I some of these comments going down the tubes.

#34 Posted by notquitevarsity (157 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Girl, Miss Martian, and Blue Beetle could all potentially solo. Superboy definitely solos.

Hulk would have to be at Worldbreaker levels for this to even be a competition.

#35 Posted by SPM1M (896 posts) - - Show Bio

@Voodoom said:

@krspaceT: You mean the anti-magic bubble? True but if it was anti magic its useless against Hulk. The question is does the suit have a weapon (and is the suit willing to use it) to take out Hulk before he takes them out.

And yes Hulk stood next to a hit and shattered a planet and was fine. The problem with the Blue Beetle Armor argument is there there is alot of assumption on what can exactly do. It seems to be a problem solving armor, but its problem is its argues with him.

if ur talking about the time hulk busted a planet wen he clashed with red she hulk in the dark dimension he actually died from the planet exploding it was the effects of the wishing well that brought him and everyone else who died back to life so no hulk cant survive that kind of force, i see this with this feat alot ppl assume he busted a planet and walked away just fine wen he was actually destroyed if ur not talkin about this time then i would really like to see a scan of him doing this but as far as the fight itself Superboy alone would put up a great fight adding the rest makes this spite

#36 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion: Just because Superboy is half Kryptonian in no way implies he has half the strength of a full blooded Kryptonian.

#37 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT said:

@jeanroygrant: Blue Beetle and Superboy are fan faves I see

Lol yup, i guess

#38 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@notquitevarsity said:

Wonder Girl, Miss Martian, and Blue Beetle could all potentially solo. Superboy definitely solos.

Hulk would have to be at Worldbreaker levels for this to even be a competition.NO!!!

@Immortal777 said:

Superboy can solo better physically and can BFR

Wonder girl can solo if her lasso is like Wonder Womans Incapacitaion or BFR

BB may be able to solo BFR

MM could solo BFR

Terra could solo if she can BFR

With BFR they can solo, and Hulk is physically stronger than all of them

#39 Posted by 80sBaby (1347 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk would beat this team with ease. Superboy solos? lol Please just stop...

#40 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby said:

Hulk would beat this team with ease. Superboy solos? lol Please just stop...

I don't think so, he doesn't really have any way to put hit Miss Martian, Superboy and WW could both hang with him physically and should both be faster as well. Blue Beetle could engaged him physically if need be, and has a host of other powers available to him. Static and Terra could keep him off balance.

#41 Posted by 80sBaby (1347 posts) - - Show Bio

What feats are you going by for SB or WG that shows they can match Hulk, physically? Or Blue Beetle, for that matter? Miss M staying intangible is cool, in theory, but how often does she do this in practice? Hulk could one-shot both Static and Terra.

#42 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby said:

What feats are you going by for SB or WG that shows they can match Hulk, physically? Or Blue Beetle, for that matter? Miss M staying intangible is cool, in theory, but how often does she do this in practice? Hulk could one-shot both Static and Terra.

Well for Superboy, it's mostly his kryptonian power set. But they've fought with S-Boy prime, Black Lantern Kal, Hercules and the Female Furies. It's not a lot to go on, but it's not like they have their own series. Beetle has his own series but the most formidable opponent I remember him fight was Guy Gardner, but his armor held up to all of Guy's blast and constructs. Miss martian might not have always used intangibility to avoid being hit, but if she didn't it's because she has so many other ways, invisibility, shapeshifting, and her speed, there are just so many ways she could avoid being hit by hulk. Depending if moral are on she could even phase him completely into some rock or increase her density in his brain. and I just remembered another advantage, the whole team can fly, they can wear him out from a distance.

#43 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy solos

#44 Posted by 80sBaby (1347 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: Superboy never beat SBP. The best he did was after absorbing 1,000 yrs of sunlight so he was powered up. Not the case here. BL Kal was rotting and didn't seem as powerful as his living version. Big Barda has beaten the Furies. Tanking a GL blast is impressive but all GL blasts aren't planet busters. Miss M has been hit plenty so she doesn't use her abilities to their fullest so I don't see her doing it here. Hulk deals with fliers all the time and distance attacks. He's tanked Thor's lightning so Static isnt doing squat and a weakened Hulk has withstood a full blast from Galdiator's HV so Superboy's not doing squat, either.

#45 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby:

Superboy never beat SBP. The best he did was after absorbing 1,000 yrs of sunlight so he was powered up.

I never said he beat him

Not the case here. BL Kal was rotting and didn't seem as powerful as his living version.

BLs displayed powers and abilities of their living counterpart plus regeneration and a weakness to fire....

Big Barda has beaten the Furies.

And Barda has also stalemated WW H2H....Furies beat Supergirl and Harbinger together and nearly beat Barda and WW together. Still suggests that Wonder Girl is pretty strong.

Tanking a GL blast is impressive but all GL blasts aren't planet busters.

Guy was going all out until he realized Beetle was a kid. The Gl ring Identified the Scarab as an enemy. and Beetle didn't even know what he was doing, he had just gotten the thing. And it's not like all of Hulk's punches are planet busting either. Most Incarnations probably couldn't even bust a planet.

All your comments above seem to serve to downplay the examples listed without actually acknowledging them. Even if they are not as impressive to you, you have to admit that they are indeed able to engage hulk in physical combat as they were able to do so against foes who are just as strong or stronger. They could likely overwhelm him, and factoring that S boy at the least is much faster than the Hulk...

Miss M has been hit plenty so she doesn't use her abilities to their fullest so I don't see her doing it here.

Miss Martian seems to dodge much more than she is successfully hit. And there is no plot to constrict her, unless you are saying she is either arrogant, relies on her durability, or is a masochist and wants to be hit. She utilizes her abilities plenty for her appearances and she would probably solo most Hulks, in fact she could do it here if she decided to go intangible and get underneath the helmet that protects him.

Hulk deals with fliers all the time and distance attacks.

I see this kind of statement from people a lot as if it actually proves anything. You have to say how he deals with them, because I seem to remember Gladiator and Thor simply not flying...

He's tanked Thor's lightning so Static isnt doing squat and a weakened Hulk has withstood a full blast from Galdiator's HV so Superboy's not doing squat, either.

How well did he tank Thor's lightning, I would guess he'd still feel it especially since in your next example of him "withstanding" a full blast of Gladiator's HV is really him having his flesh burned all the way to his exposed heart. S boy's is likely just as powerful since Superman's is said to be hotter than scientific measure, where as Gladiators is hotter than a sun.

#46 Posted by 80sBaby (1347 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: I'm not trying to downplay anything/anyone. I just don't think the kids have enough consistent feats to put them at Hulk's level. I think they could win a couple but Hulk takes 8/10, imo.

#47 Edited by RyuHayabusa (2019 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby said:

@vuviper: I'm not trying to downplay anything/anyone. I just don't think the kids have enough consistent feats to put them at Hulk's level. I think they could win a couple but Hulk takes 8/10, imo.

Why you think Hulk wins 8/10? I can say the same about hulk.

#48 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby said:

@vuviper: I'm not trying to downplay anything/anyone. I just don't think the kids have enough consistent feats to put them at Hulk's level. I think they could win a couple but Hulk takes 8/10, imo.

Well your only response to the examples I listed for your benefit was to give mild criticism of each example and act like that somehow showed that those examples no longer proved my point. How many showings do you really need? They're the teen titans, not the justice league. these guys mostly don't get their own series. Maybe I'll check out some Superboy and see if I can help you there, but I don't know why what I've mentioned wouldn't be enough.

All white martians have pretty consistently been portrayed as superman level physically. Add in their invis, intang, shape shifting, and telepathy. and I think any Martian would rather easily solo Hulk. Miss Martian included

#49 Posted by Outside_85 (10239 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty said:

@jeanroygrant: I've never seen any feats from Hulk that make me think he could take out someone like Superboy.

All Hulk has is strength, limited durability, and regeneration. That's not going to cut it here.

The bold part: I am not really sure if you've read anything of the Hulk from within the last decade or so to actually say he has limited durability. Since its pretty much how his fights go these days; he gets hit by people, doesn't get KO'ed by anything short of a Sky-Father, gets even madder and repays the favor. As for regeneration...I'm pretty sure that only Wolverine has better feats with his.

Unsurprisingly I will go with Hulk here, he has faced and smashed bigger and better than this.

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#50 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

@Lady_Liberty said:

@jeanroygrant: I've never seen any feats from Hulk that make me think he could take out someone like Superboy.

All Hulk has is strength, limited durability, and regeneration. That's not going to cut it here.

The bold part: I am not really sure if you've read anything of the Hulk from within the last decade or so to actually say he has limited durability. Since its pretty much how his fights go these days; he gets hit by people, doesn't get KO'ed by anything short of a Sky-Father, gets even madder and repays the favor. As for regeneration...I'm pretty sure that only Wolverine has better feats with his.

Unsurprisingly I will go with Hulk here, he has faced and smashed bigger and better than this.

I think what he referred to as durability was separate from his healing since the next power he listed was regeneration, Hulk doesn't seem like the hardest hero to injure. And as for as regeneration, one person in the battle likely has better regeneration. Miss Martian. (If J'onn is any indication)