#1 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules:

- Fightss take place in an abandon city. Characters start on opposite sides of the city 10 miles a part.

- Win by KO, Death, Submission, Forfeit. (no BFR)

- Morals on, but everyone fights to survive.

- Standard gear, no prep. (no Phoenix, no HoM powers, Cable has TO virus, etc.)

- Characters only have knowledge of others from their own Universe.

- Winners move on, losers are out.

- In the Final Four the North Bracket winner faces the South Bracket winner, and the East Bracket winner faces the West Bracket winner.

Make your picks!

#2 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-Flashpoint?

#3 Edited by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

Pre-Flashpoint?

Yeah.

#4 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
North 
Superman over Sentry 
Cloak and Dagger over Hawk and Dove 
Richards over Ralph 
Storm over Hawkgirl 
Scarlet Witch over Zatanna 
Moondragon over Phantom Girl 
Namor over Aquaman 
Coin flip says Cage over Plastic Man.  These guys can't hurt each other. 
Quasar over GA Flash 
Punisher over Question 
The Ray over Wonderman 
Red Tornado over the Vision 
Mr Terrific over Iron Man (huge upset but Tony can't see or detect him) 
Atom over Wasp 
Green Lantern over X-Man 
Pryde over Batgirl 
 
Superman over Cloak and Dagger 
Storm over Richards 
Moondragon over Scarlet Witch 
Namor over Cage 
Quasar over Punisher 
The Ray over Red Tornado 
The Atom over Mr Terrific 
Green Lantern over Pryde 
 
Superman over Storm 
Moondragon over Namor 
Quasar over the Ray 
Green Lantern over the Atom 
 
Superman over Moondragon 
Honestly don't know enough about Quasar to call this. 
 
Superman over GL or Quasar
#5 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

I came out with either Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, and JUST MAYBE Thor(Barry Allen is in that list of wins with a little luck)

North Bracket Winner

Superman(his fights were kind of easy)

South Bracket Winner

Martian Manhunter

East Bracket Winner

Barry Allen(it was close between him and Thor. Still thinking about picking him or Thor)

West Bracket Winner

Silver Surfer or Dr. Strange

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#6 Posted by crackerjack82 (2592 posts) - - Show Bio

many Many Bad Match ups

X-man Wins

#7 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

@crackerjack82 said:

many Many Bad Match ups

X-man Wins

How?

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#8 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zoom: Agree with most of your choices. Though I think Quasar could drain Superman in the final there.

@Petey_is_Spidey: You think Manhunter gets by Ghost Rider? If so I agree he makes it past everyone else. How does your final four-play out? Any upsets along the way?

#9 Posted by GhostRider29 (2671 posts) - - Show Bio

North Bracket:

Sentry(As long as he decides to let the void go all out)

South Bracket:

Ghost Rider

East Bracket:

Thor (Comes down to Thor vs. Colossusnaut. But I think Thor would still win)

West Bracket:

Silver Surfer

#10 Posted by GhostRider29 (2671 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey: So how does Ghost Rider lose? Just curious?. Lol

#11 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yai_Inn said:

Rules:

- Fightss take place in an abandon city. Characters start on opposite sides of the city 10 miles a part.

- Win by KO, Death, Submission, Forfeit. (no BFR)

- Morals on, but everyone fights to survive.

- Standard gear, no prep. (no Phoenix, no HoM powers, Cable has TO virus, etc.)

- Characters only have knowledge of others from their own Universe.

- Winners move on, losers are out.

- In the Final Four the North Bracket winner faces the South Bracket winner, and the East Bracket winner faces the West Bracket winner.

Make your picks!

I like this thread. Nice one.

North bracket comes down to Superman vs X-Man, maybe even Quasar I say X-Man

South bracket would be either BRB or Cap Marvel vs MM I say MM

East bracket would be Thor vs Captain Atom I say Thor

West Bracket would automatically end up Dr. Strange as the winner after a good fight with SS. I say Dr. Strange

X-Man vs MM.... X-Man

Thor vs Dr.Strnge..... Dr. Strange

FINAL WINNER---- Dr. Strange, magic casters usually always win fights. Magic>Science

#12 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yai_Inn said:

@Petey_is_Spidey: You think Manhunter gets by Ghost Rider? If so I agree he makes it past everyone else. How does your final four-play out? Any upsets along the way?

I see Superman and Martian Manhunter slugging it out for a while. MM then looks to telepathy as a last resort. He has also already beaten Superman. Classic Thor with no OF is pretty slow, though he has proven to hit Silver Surfer at high speeds. If he can lay ONE hit on Barry, he wins. That's the problem though. I don't know if he can. Silver Surfer and Classic Strange is a problem, too. I'm pretty sure he can't react to Surfer. If SS does fight Barry, he wins. Thor might be a problem though. It can go either way between Dr. Strange, Thor, Silver Surfer, and Barry Allen but I say SS wins.

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#13 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

@GhostRider29 said:

@Petey_is_Spidey: So how does Ghost Rider lose? Just curious?. Lol

MM is most likely too fast for Ghost Rider. He could also use telepathy. Ghost Rider also hasn't been proven to be on the level of strength or speed of MM. It would be a good, but short fight(thats kind of weird).

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#14 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77: Thanks. Good choices (to each their own I suppose) I don't see MM getting past GR (but that just might be me) But I like your final (and the Magic>Science logic as well)

@Petey_is_Spidey: If Thor can't hit Barry how does Barry end up beating Thor?

#15 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yai_Inn said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77: Thanks. Good choices (to each their own I suppose) I don't see MM getting past GR (but that just might be me) But I like your final (and the Magic>Science logic as well)

@Petey_is_Spidey: If Thor can't hit Barry how does Barry end up beating Thor?

If Barry doesn't break his fist in the process of hitting Thor, then a billion hits per half second should be able to put down Thor(without Odin Force).

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#16 Posted by Mycroftian (109 posts) - - Show Bio

Kind of a neat idea, but there are so many variables here. . . I'm sure this thread will be argued over long after we're all dead and gone.

#17 Posted by joshuagamer (631 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman beats Sentry, Hawk/ Dove beat Cloak/ Dagger, Reed beats Elongated Man, Storm beats Hawkgirl, Scarlet Witch beats Zatanna, Moondragon beats Phantom Girl, Namor beats Aquaman, Plastic Man beats Luke Cage, Quasar beats Jay Garrick, Punisher beats the Question, the ray beats Wonderman, Red Tornado beats VisionIron man beats Mr. Terrific, tie between Ant Man and Atom, X-Man beats Kyle Rayner, Cassandra Cain beats Shadowcat, Black Bolt beats Captain Marvel, Northstar beats Lightning Lass, Batman beats Cap, Black Lightning beats Cyclops, Beta Ray Bill beats Hawkman, Miss Martian beats Sue, Gladiator beats Superboy, Midnighter beats Wolverine, Ghost rider bats MM, Animal man ties with multiple man, Bart Allen beats Quicksilver, Guy beats Havok, Donna and Pulsar tie, Black panther beats Cyborg, Hal Jordan beats marvel, Red hood beats iron fist, Thor beats ww, Babs beats Wasp, War M. beats Steel, Jean Grey beats Sat. Girl,Firestorm murders human torch,Aqualad beats iceman, cable beats booster, Drake beats Moonknight, Warlock beats Cap. Atom, Colossus beats Mr. Miracle, Wiican beats Blue Beetle, Starfire beats Polaris, John Stewart beats Cap. Brit.,Green Arrow beats hawkeye,Barry Allen beats Hercules, Nightcrawler beats Beast Boy, SS beats Alan Scott, Catwoman beats Spiderwoman, Raven beats Magik, Static ties with Spiderman, Mary Marvel beats Ms. Marvel, Black canary beats Dazzler, Hulk beats Powergirl, Vixen beats Beast, Wally vs. Nova= ?, Psylocke beats Huntress, Supergirl beats Rogue, Swamp Thing beats Thing, Wondergirl beats Jewel, Nightwing beats Daredevil, Dr. Strange beats Dr. fate, Gambit beats Red Arrow

#18 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey: On the strength side GR has fought with Hulk and Thor (and Blackheart in his domain). On Barry vs Thor fair argument, but do you think he would be able to land a billion hits per half a second while dodging Thor's lightning and Mjolnir?

@Mycroftian: not this thread, just the same characters in different match ups or situations, or different versions of the characters.

@joshuagamer: Good picks, "Firestorm murders Human Torch" lol yeah. But no way is Miss Martian beating Sue, or is Black Canary beating Dazzler. How do you see it playing out from there?

#19 Posted by GhostRider29 (2671 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@GhostRider29 said:

@Petey_is_Spidey: So how does Ghost Rider lose? Just curious?. Lol

MM is most likely too fast for Ghost Rider. He could also use telepathy. Ghost Rider also hasn't been proven to be on the level of strength or speed of MM. It would be a good, but short fight(thats kind of weird).

Well I'm not sure if MM telepathy would work on Ghost Rider. IF and IF he let the spirit of vengeance control(Assuming it's this version), Nothing but Magic can bring him down.

#20 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yai_Inn said:

@Petey_is_Spidey: On the strength side GR has fought with Hulk and Thor (and Blackheart in his domain). On Barry vs Thor fair argument, but do you think he would be able to land a billion hits per half a second while dodging Thor's lightning and Mjolnir?

True, true. Okay, if Ghost Rider does beat MM with Spirit of vengeance then I think the fight comes down to him and Silver Surfer or Dr. Strange. I'm pretty sure they can beat him in a very close fight. I don't think Thor's lightning is fast enough to hit Barry, but he may be able to tag him with Mjolnir. Too many variables.

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#21 Posted by crackerjack82 (2592 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey:

Well X-man in his Prime would have his way most here, but in reality (well comic book) Ghost Rider, is the one to beat here. the only one here who is pure is Superman, and GR may not have the speed, but superman has no way to killing him

#22 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yai_Inn said:

@Zoom: Agree with most of your choices. Though I think Quasar could drain Superman in the final there.

He probably wouldn't know to.  Still pretty iffy.
#23 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
Captain Marvel over Black Bolt
Northstar over Lightning Lass
Captain America over Batman
Cyclops over Black Lightning (could go either way)
Beta Ray Bill over Hawkman
Miss Martian over Invisible Woman
Superboy over Gladiator
Midnighter (ugh) over Wolverine
Ghost Rider over Martian Manhunter (I guess.  I've never seen someone try to use tp against the Rider)
Animal Man over Multiple Man
Bart Allen over Quicksilver
Guy over Havok
Photon over Donna
Black Panther over Cyborg
Hal over Mar-Vell (I guess)
Iron Fist over Todd

Captain Marvel over Northstar
Captain America over Cyclops
Beta Ray BIll over Miss Martian
Superboy over Midnighter
Ghost Rider over Animal Man
Kid Flash over Green Lantern
Photon over Black Panther
Hal over Iron First

Captain Marvel over Captain America
Beta Ray Bill over Superboy
Ghost Rider over Kid Flash
Green Lantern over Photon

Captain Marvel over Beta Ray Bill
Ghost Rider over Green Lantern (long fight)

Ghost Rider over Captain Marvel (longer fight)
#24 Posted by Dex_Starr (4754 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zoom:Just curious but why Red Tornado over Vision? Why Moondragon over Phantom Girl and why Ghost Rider over CM?

#25 Posted by TAneT62 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

North Bracket it'll be between WONDERWOMAN AND SUPERMAN in the finals ... after a long fight wonderowman wins. Because all superman will be doing is holding back.

#26 Edited by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dex_Starr said:

@Zoom:Just curious but why Red Tornado over Vision? Why Moondragon over Phantom Girl and why Ghost Rider over CM?

Red Tornado is a lot faster than the Vision and his winds should work pretty well against someone with very low density.  I don't think the Red Tornado wins every time but he'll win most of the time.
 
Moondragon is a telepath.  I don't think Phantom Girl resists telepathy super well. 
 
Ghost Rider is just kinda unhurtable by anyone here....unless he's vulnerable to telepathy, which is hard to say.  He can think.  He doesn't have a brain.  Can you mind control him?  Idk.  But Captain Marvel can pound on him all day and he'll get right back up.  I think the Rider is more likely to eventually put down a GL or a Marvel than vice versa.