#1 Edited by The Stegman (25961 posts) - - Show Bio

  
 
 
-ONLY WOMEN PICTURED 
 
TEAM MARVEL- 
-Sue Storm 
-She Hulk 
-Wasp 
-Emma Frost 
-Medusa 
-Kitty Pryde
-Elektra 
-Black Widow 
-Tigra 
-Scarlet Witch (PRE HoM !!!!) 
-Black Cat 
-Spider-Woman 
-storm 
-Ms. Marvel 
-Rogue (starts off with Ms.Marvel's powers)
- Jean Gray (NO PHOENIX, despite her having it in the pic i can already predict people will say she solos with it)  
-Firestar
 -Photon 
-Guardian
 
TEAM DC 
-Wonder Woman 
-Powergirl 
-Donna Troy 
-Mary Marvel 
-Zatanna 
-Barbara Gordon (as Batgirl) 
-Black Canary 
-Huntress 
-Cassandra Cain 
-Catwoman 
-Hawkgirl 
-Stargirl 
-Jade 
-Starfire 
-supergirl 
-Raven 
-Wonder girl  
-Fire 
 
RULES- 
-Morals on 
-speed blitz/ mind barrages allowed 
-fight starts off 100 feet apart 
-no prep 
-last team standing wins 
  WHO WINS???
#2 Posted by odinforce (1500 posts) - - Show Bio
the only heavy hitters on marvel are she-hulk and ms. marvel, but theyre not on the DC woman's level 
besides them, the only threats i see from marvel are jean grey, rogue, scarlet witch, emma frost and storm (maybe invisible woman i guess) 
 
im thinkin DC wins but couldn't jean grey, emma frost, and rogue copying both of their powers just mind rape everyone?
#3 Posted by JediXMan (31265 posts) - - Show Bio

DC stomps, sorry.

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#4 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1908 posts) - - Show Bio

DC wins easy.

#5 Edited by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

marvel wins on a natural basis. dc can win too through major p.i.s

#6 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@odinforce said:
the only heavy hitters on marvel are she-hulk and ms. marvel, but theyre not on the DC woman's level 
besides them, the only threats i see from marvel are jean grey, rogue, scarlet witch, emma frost and storm (maybe invisible woman i guess) 
 
im thinkin DC wins but couldn't jean grey, emma frost, and rogue copying both of their powers just mind rape everyone?
madalyn prior is in there too.... 
 
in fact... how is this even fair... 17 is on the DC side and 18 for the marvel side lol
#7 Posted by cap_a_rules (74 posts) - - Show Bio

looks aside I say marvel all the way. Marvel just hase a little higher of a edge with strength and psychic ablity,  this would make a great comis.
#8 Posted by odinforce (1500 posts) - - Show Bio
@cap_a_rules said:

looks aside I say marvel all the way. Marvel just hase a little higher of a edge with strength and psychic ablity,  this would make a great comis.
actually, DC has much more stronger women than marvel. she-hulk and ms. marvel aren't close to wonder woman or supergirl  
 
 
@Lance Bastro
@JediXMan: Couldn't marvel just mind rape DC? 
 
#9 Posted by EpitomeofCool (2767 posts) - - Show Bio

been done...
 
w/ phoenix marvel w/out dc easy...

#10 Posted by cap_a_rules (74 posts) - - Show Bio

no way she-hulk would kill super girl and super girl has a weakness,pluss super girl has died before not she hulk.
#11 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

dc has the edge on physical strength, but marvel has waaay too much power. power that makes strength meaningless in this fight. the goblin queen is probably the most powerful one here if the phoenix can't be used. invicible woman is also a factor here, and rogue can potentially be the most powerful in the roster.

#12 Posted by cap_a_rules (74 posts) - - Show Bio

how does dc have a edge with physical srtendth  the pheonix would kill any phtchic on dc side.
#13 Posted by mark5 (1207 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
DC stomps, sorry.
#14 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@cap_a_rules said:
how does dc have a edge with physical srtendth  the pheonix would kill any phtchic on dc side.
the rules say... jean grey as marvel girl and not phoenix.
#15 Edited by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio

DC team wins easily, almost all of Marvel's girls can be one shotted.  The only real threat would be Wanda if she was using Chaos Magic, and she would still have to survive being hit by someone like Power Girl, Wonder Woman or Supergirl. 

#16 Posted by cap_a_rules (74 posts) - - Show Bio

darn your right but that is not giving marvel a fighting chance.
#17 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10824 posts) - - Show Bio
@EpitomeofCool said:
been done...  w/ phoenix marvel w/out dc easy...

This... 
#18 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2386 posts) - - Show Bio

On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.
 
Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.
 
Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).

#19 Posted by intothetempest (287 posts) - - Show Bio

Best shot for Marvel? Use their telepaths to shut down most of DC, then slug it out with the rest of those that the telepathy didn’t work on. Unfortunately,  if they don’t use that tactic then marvel would go don. DC has too many heavy hitters who are extremely fast. It’s a win for marvel for the hand to hand fights like Huntress and Elektra Black Cat and Catwoman Black Widow and Black Canary. But for the Heavy fights like Wonder Woman and Ms marvel and She-Hulk and Supergirl it’s a win for DC. So all up, what i’m trying to say is, in order to win Marvel has to utilize telepathy or magic or Invisible Womans shields. Otherwise the DC women win due to pure strength and speed

#20 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dark Cloud™ said:
On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.  Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.  Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).
All of their psionics can be one shotted.  None of them can compensate for the massive speed advantage that the DC team has. 
#21 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

yea, the women of real threat in the DC side are the ladies of magic.... not the ladies of brute.

#22 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio

Right, except the ladies of brute can kill all of the ladies on the Marvel team within seconds. 

#23 Posted by odinforce (1500 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.  Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.  Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).
All of their psionics can be one shotted.  None of them can compensate for the massive speed advantage that the DC team has. 
that is if the super fast ppl know which of the marvel women are psychics.  
they might be busy before that though and have their hands full of other ppl
 
#24 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.  Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.  Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).
All of their psionics can be one shotted.  None of them can compensate for the massive speed advantage that the DC team has. 
invisible woman can divide her forcefield on each member of her team. none of them can be one shotted. and madalyn will use the goblin force and swallow up the entire DC team.
#25 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2386 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.  Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.  Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).
All of their psionics can be one shotted.  None of them can compensate for the massive speed advantage that the DC team has. 
Sure, they can be one-shotted, I don't disagree there. But yes, psionics and psychics can compensate. Strength and speed isn't everything.
#26 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@odinforce said:
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.  Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.  Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).
All of their psionics can be one shotted.  None of them can compensate for the massive speed advantage that the DC team has. 
that is if the super fast ppl know which of the marvel women are psychics.  
they might be busy before that though and have their hands full of other ppl
 
They won't have there hands full because none of the Marvel girls can contend with the DC girls physically.  The most powerful one's like She Hulk and Rogue would get taken out in one hit by Power Girl Supergirl, Mary Marvel, or Wonder Woman.  Psionics can't do anything to Jade or Raven since their immune to telepathy.  Basically, the Marvel telepaths, all 3 of them, need to take down 4 massively powerful flying bricks, Jade, Raven, Donna and Starfire? Yeah I don't think the Marvel team has a chance in hell here. 
#27 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

  
 

  
  
#28 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dark Cloud™ said:
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.  Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.  Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).
All of their psionics can be one shotted.  None of them can compensate for the massive speed advantage that the DC team has. 
Sure, they can be one-shotted, I don't disagree there. But yes, psionics and psychics can compensate. Strength and speed isn't everything.
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
@odinforce said:
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
On many cases, I would have said DC. But today, I'm giving this to Marvel.  Psychics and Psionics are the advantages for Team Marvel.  Team DC mainly has heavy hitters, nothing that could possibly block mental assaults (which many of Team Marvel opt to use first).
All of their psionics can be one shotted.  None of them can compensate for the massive speed advantage that the DC team has. 
that is if the super fast ppl know which of the marvel women are psychics.  
they might be busy before that though and have their hands full of other ppl
 
They won't have there hands full because none of the Marvel girls can contend with the DC girls physically.  The most powerful one's like She Hulk and Rogue would get taken out in one hit by Power Girl Supergirl, Mary Marvel, or Wonder Woman.  Psionics can't do anything to Jade or Raven since their immune to telepathy.  Basically, the Marvel telepaths, all 3 of them, need to take down 4 massively powerful flying bricks, Jade, Raven, Donna and Starfire? Yeah I don't think the Marvel team has a chance in hell here. 
#29 Posted by odinforce (1500 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon: actually they do stand a chance in hell my friend.  
 

 "The most powerful one's like She Hulk and Rogue would get taken out in one hit by Power Girl Supergirl, Mary Marvel, or Wonder Woman." 
 
more than enough time to do some mind raping 
 
"Psionics can't do anything to Jade or Raven since their immune to telepathy." 
 
scarlet witch or invisible woman cook up some magic or put a forcefield around their brains to knock them out, not to mention how invisible woman could also put forcefields around everyone else on marvel and possibly even put forcefields around everyone on the DC team's brains  
#30 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11723 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@odinforce: Actually they don't have a snow mans chance in hell my friend
 
None of the psionics can react fast enough.  By the time they think "mind rape" they're heads fly off there shoulders. 
 
@odinforce said:
scarlet witch or invisible woman cook up some magic or put a forcefield around their brains to knock them out, not to mention how invisible woman could also put forcefields around everyone else on marvel and possibly even put forcefields around everyone on the DC team's brains  
Yeah? And Raven and Zatanna can strip them of there emotions and leave the entire Marvel team emotionally numb, or BFR the psychics into another dimension.  There is just as much chance of this happening as Wanda and Sue doing anything.  The only difference is that Wanda and Sue don't have several light speeders on there team. 
#32 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

oh and kitty pryde is in here too..

#33 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2386 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Bastro said:
  
 
  
  
Awesome. 

@Cosmic_Falcon said:
They won't have there hands full because none of the Marvel girls can contend with the DC girls physically.  The most powerful one's like She Hulk and Rogue would get taken out in one hit by Power Girl Supergirl, Mary Marvel, or Wonder Woman.  Psionics can't do anything to Jade or Raven since their immune to telepathy.  Basically, the Marvel telepaths, all 3 of them, need to take down 4 massively powerful flying bricks, Jade, Raven, Donna and Starfire? Yeah I don't think the Marvel team has a chance in hell here. 
The cross-overs between Marvel and DC have shown that most powerhouses of Marvel can, and have, fought many DC powerhouses to a stalemate, especially Thor vs Superman, Silver Surfer vs Superman, and Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern Kyle Rayner. This should include female characters for both companies, and not just rely on the males. In other words, I believe Team Marvel can defend against DC in terms of physical strength and speed, long enough for Team DC to be assaulted via mental attacks. You're right, Raven and Jade are immune to telepathy, but that leaves just about every other DC female open. There is nearly no chance of DC succeeding, they would have to attack the psionics and psychics first -- but since there isn't prep time, they wouldn't know who was psychic and psionic and who wasn't.
#34 Edited by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dark Cloud™ said:

@Lance Bastro said:

  
 
  
  
Awesome. 

@Cosmic_Falcon said:
They won't have there hands full because none of the Marvel girls can contend with the DC girls physically.  The most powerful one's like She Hulk and Rogue would get taken out in one hit by Power Girl Supergirl, Mary Marvel, or Wonder Woman.  Psionics can't do anything to Jade or Raven since their immune to telepathy.  Basically, the Marvel telepaths, all 3 of them, need to take down 4 massively powerful flying bricks, Jade, Raven, Donna and Starfire? Yeah I don't think the Marvel team has a chance in hell here. 
The cross-overs between Marvel and DC have shown that most powerhouses of Marvel can, and have, fought many DC powerhouses to a stalemate, especially Thor vs Superman, Silver Surfer vs Superman, and Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern Kyle Rayner. This should include female characters for both companies, and not just rely on the males. In other words, I believe Team Marvel can defend against DC in terms of physical strength and speed, long enough for Team DC to be assaulted via mental attacks. You're right, Raven and Jade are immune to telepathy, but that leaves just about every other DC female open. There is nearly no chance of DC succeeding, they would have to attack the psionics and psychics first -- but since there isn't prep time, they wouldn't know who was psychic and psionic and who wasn't.
I'm not even going to dignify this with a response.  As soon as the word crossover appeared the red light flashed.  The crossovers aren't canon PERIOD. 
#35 Edited by odinforce (1500 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon: not a snow man's, but a frost giants chance in hell my friend 
  

"None of the psionics can react fast enough.  By the time they think "mind rape" they're heads fly off there shoulders. " 
  
maybe one psionic, but the combined efforts of three (jean, emma, and rogue taking their powers) can be fast enough 
i agree that wonder woman can fly fast enough to tag alot of ppl if she were bloodlust though. same goes for supergirl, mary marvel and power girl. but we dont know if this battle is bloodlusted

 
"Yeah? And Raven and Zatanna can strip them of there emotions and leave the entire Marvel team emotionally numb, or BFR the psychics into another dimension.  There is just as much chance of this happening as Wanda and Sue doing anything.  The only difference is that Wanda and Sue don't have several light speeders on there team. " 
  
exactly ^^^ 
 
 
storm beats wonder woman through PIS and fan voters
#36 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

DC stomps easily.
#37 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@odinforce said:
@Cosmic_Falcon: not a snow man's, but a frost giants chance in hell my friend 
  

"None of the psionics can react fast enough.  By the time they think "mind rape" they're heads fly off there shoulders. " 
  
maybe one psionic, but the combined efforts of three (jean, emma, and rogue taking their powers) can be fast enough 
i agree that wonder woman can fly fast enough to tag alot of ppl if she were bloodlust though. same goes for supergirl, mary marvel and power girl. but we dont know if this battle is bloodlusted

 
"Yeah? And Raven and Zatanna can strip them of there emotions and leave the entire Marvel team emotionally numb, or BFR the psychics into another dimension.  There is just as much chance of this happening as Wanda and Sue doing anything.  The only difference is that Wanda and Sue don't have several light speeders on there team. " 
  
exactly ^^^ 
 
 
storm beats wonder woman through PIS and fan voters
No, they can't because they're dealing with 4 high end flying bricks, each are faster and can take out all of the psionics with a single hit.  They don't have to be blood lusted either. 
 
So assuming that Raven and Zatanna are fighting Wanda and Sue.  You still have the 4 flying bricks, one shotting everyone including the psionics.
 
Which leans 4 flying bricks, Jade, Donna, Starfire, Raven Zatanna, vs Wanda and Sue....
#38 Edited by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
even if you don't apply cross-over.....  
 
real canon 
  1. sue vs gladiator
  2. sue vs celestials
  3. madalyn vs galactus and phoenix
  4. proton is faster than light and she could loose against magneto (meaning speed < raw power)
  5. sue vs the phoenix
#39 Posted by odinforce (1500 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon: "No, they can't because they're dealing with 4 high end flying bricks, each are faster and can take out all of the psionics with a single hit.  They don't have to be blood lusted either.  " 
 
if they werent bloodlusted, they wouldnt make heads fly off shoulders. and they certainly wouldn't travel super fast, fast enough to kill normal humans
#40 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@odinforce said:
@Cosmic_Falcon: "No, they can't because they're dealing with 4 high end flying bricks, each are faster and can take out all of the psionics with a single hit.  They don't have to be blood lusted either.  " 
 
if they werent bloodlusted, they wouldnt make heads fly off shoulders. and they certainly wouldn't travel super fast, fast enough to kill normal humans
They don't need to be blood lusted. 
#41 Posted by odinforce (1500 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon: i said if they weren't bloodlusted they wouldn't react at such fast speeds to tag everyone. if they were bloodlusted, they could probably just zoom through and one shot ppl
#42 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@odinforce said:
@Cosmic_Falcon: i said if they weren't bloodlusted they wouldn't react at such fast speeds to tag everyone. if they were bloodlusted, they could probably just zoom through and one shot ppl
And I'm saying that they don't have to be blood lusted to react and move fast.  They can do this without killing their opponents. 
#43 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2386 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
I'm not even going to dignify this with a responseAs soon as the word crossover appeared the red light flashed.  The crossovers aren't canon PERIOD
You just responded.
 
Canon or not, it happened, and that's proof enough. And if you want to get technical, Infinite Crisis isn't canon, then, considering the fact that it incorporated just about every parallel universe in itself.
 
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
No, they can't because they're dealing with 4 high end flying bricks, each are faster and can take out all of the psionics with a single hit.  They don't have to be blood lusted either. So assuming that Raven and Zatanna are fighting Wanda and Sue.  You still have the 4 flying bricks, one shotting everyone including the psionics.  Which leans 4 flying bricks, Jade, Donna, Starfire, Raven Zatanna, vs Wanda and Sue....
Here's some insight, strength and speed isn't everything. Not at the same time. Bloodlusted would make a hefty difference between the differences in physical and mental power.
#44 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

about the emotional lock thing... how is that going to effect emma? and raven is resistant to telepathy not immune.

#45 Posted by The Stegman (25961 posts) - - Show Bio
@cap_a_rules: actually by not putting in phoenix, i tried to make it more even, with phoenix, she could probably just erase the dc team single handedly 
#46 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

gladiator is speed and strength yet he can not defeat sue.

#47 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dark Cloud™ said:
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
I'm not even going to dignify this with a responseAs soon as the word crossover appeared the red light flashed.  The crossovers aren't canon PERIOD
You just responded.
 
Canon or not, it happened, and that's proof enough. And if you want to get technical, Infinite Crisis isn't canon, then, considering the fact that it incorporated just about every parallel universe in itself.
I didn't give a well thought out response because the use of crossovers in an argument is not to be taken seriously.
 
No it didn't.  The term non canon means it didn't happen and it doesn't exist in Marvel or DC Continuity.  Infinite Crisis wasn't an interpromotional crossover, it exist in the DCU Continuity.  Marvel and DC crossovers don't.  So chances are that you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
@Dark Cloud™ said:

@Cosmic_Falcon said:
No, they can't because they're dealing with 4 high end flying bricks, each are faster and can take out all of the psionics with a single hit.  They don't have to be blood lusted either. So assuming that Raven and Zatanna are fighting Wanda and Sue.  You still have the 4 flying bricks, one shotting everyone including the psionics.  Which leans 4 flying bricks, Jade, Donna, Starfire, Raven Zatanna, vs Wanda and Sue....
Here's some insight, strength and speed isn't everything. Not at the same time. Bloodlusted would make a hefty difference between the differences in physical and mental power.

It isn't everything, but when the difference is this big it's all that's needed.  They don't need to be blood lusted to KO everyone on the Marvel team. 
#48 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Stegman said:
@cap_a_rules: actually by not putting in phoenix, i tried to make it more even, with phoenix, she could probably just erase the dc team single handedly 
you took out the phoenix but left goblin queen lol..
#49 Posted by The Stegman (25961 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Bastro: lol yes, i sorta forgot she was even in the pic, it's why i didn't list her, but yeah, i figure she can stay in!
#50 Posted by The Stegman (25961 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Bastro: oh wait! that's not the goblin queen! i looked up the full list of the women in the marvel pic, it is this 
 

L-R (flyers)
Phoenix, Firestar, Rogue, Ms. Marvel, Photon, Storm, Guardian, Spiderwoman

L-R (Standing)
Invisible Woman, She-Hulk, Wasp, White Queen, Medusa, Shadow Cat, Elektra, Black Widow, Tigra, Scarlet Witch, Black Cat