Jade (Green Lantern/Sentinel Alan Stewart's daughter) vs. Captain Marvel/Photon(Monica Rambeau);
Lady Shiva vs. Electra;
Wonder Woman vs. Mantis;
Big Barda vs. Thundra;
Power Girl vs. She-Hulk;
Zatanna vs. Circe(of the Eternals)
; Raven vs. Invisible Woman;
Supergirl vs. Rogue;
Vixen vs. Gamora
Saturn Girl vs. Moondragon;
Black Orchid vs. Valkyrie;
Platinum(of the Metal Men) vs. Jocasta;
Bumblebee(of the Titans) vs. Wasp;
Firehawk vs. Ms Marvel;
Starfire vs. Firestar;
By and large ^that.
But I am taking the Black Witch over the Scarlet one, because Mysa is wielding the collective magical energies of 3 universes since she became this version by absorbing 31st century Mordu.
@outside_85: At last!!! WELL DONE, Outside_85---FINALLY, someone who knows a little something about the Black Witch's power makes a comment. As she is now, do you think she is powerful enough to challenge even "House of M" Wanda?
@outside_85: At last!!! WELL DONE, Outside_85---FINALLY, someone who knows a little something about the Black Witch's power makes a comment. As she is now, do you think she is powerful enough to challenge even "House of M" Wanda?
HoM Wanda has the advantage of basically having created the HoM-reality where everything is dancing to her loony tune. That said, Black Witch is as far as I can see, a good bit above what Dr. Strange was at that time.
Unknown beings with the power of MULTIPLE skyfathers (and the maturity of teen-age boys), upon discovering and observing the DC and Marvel universes, decide to find out which is supreme-by pitting each world's best FEMALE super humans against one another (the MALE super-humans are kept in thrall).
Vixen vs. Gamora Not sure who Vixen is, but I'll give DC the undefeated win because why not.
SECOND ROUND: - I'm on familiar with like 2 of these characters so I'm gonna skip this round.
Saturn Girl vs. Moondragon
Black Orchid vs. Valkyrie
Platinum (of the Metal Men) vs. Jocasta
Bumblebee (of the Titans) vs. Wasp
Firehawk vs. Ms. Marvel
Starfire vs. Firestar
Black Witch (of the Legion of Superheroes)
vs. Scarlett Witch (PRE 'House of M')
THIRD ROUND: Winners of the first two rounds-for their world's survival- battle in a winner take all brawl; the women are battling to incapacitate, KO, or (if neccessary) terminate their opponent. Ready? BEGIN! So basiclly out of the DC girls from the first round. Porbably a WW blitz, unless Zatanna or Raven can pull out a magic win.
@jedog: You've been posting "marvel all rounds" on my threads for the past couple of days. You are entitled to your opinion, of course---but to robotically state such a sweeping, blanket assertion without giving reasons would seem to indicate a FAN, rather than FACT based ideology.
the only one really worth discussing is mantis vs ww,,,I would argue she is faster and so much more skilled that it isn't funny.. she has also one shotted thor a couple times in her existence... Not saying she beats WW, but it is at least good debating topic... What you think??
the only one really worth discussing is mantis vs ww,,,I would argue she is faster and so much more skilled that it isn't funny.. she has also one shotted thor a couple times in her existence... Not saying she beats WW, but it is at least good debating topic... What you think??
I mean I knew you would as you are a dc guy, am I right?? but what I was talking about is that is probably the closest and probably the best match to actually debate...I am not disagreeing either, just that it would be an interesting debate : )
oh ok.. she is pretty awesome... the most skilled fighter in the marvel universe as she has been studying all over the universe for over 1000 years...She has put thor down in one nerve strike... She is faster than light and has other powers such as tp,, things like that...
oh ok.. she is pretty awesome... the most skilled fighter in the marvel universe as she has been studying all over the universe for over 1000 years...She has put thor down in one nerve strike... She is faster than light and has other powers such as tp,, things like that...
You got me , She's Faster than Light ? :l , Wonder woman is More skilled than thor H2H combat , That thor has Survived Going inside The Centre of The sun actualy he was fighting in The Centre of The Sun without being harmed , Don't you think That was PIS Two Hit's Ko'ed Thor Down Lol ?
Well here is Some feat's of WW , Read the scan's(Great durability she has and i forgot about the scan when she killed Ares who's Above Thor by far :
Diana Blocks and with strength as the scan says, redirects infinite Destructive energies(The combined might of the Greek Pantheon and the Godwave).This is an amazing strength, durability, shields, and stamina feat.
WW physically knocks over the Galactus Class/Cosmic being, Overmaster. Notice how he's surprised that it's even happening. A guy who no sold the combined efforts of Three Leagues including Despero. Pictured below feat.
Knocking the Air out of the Armored Konvict. Earlier, Superman stated that he'd hit him with enough force to shatter small planets and he still wouldn't fall.
Taking at least 4 shots from Brearious who's finger tip was nearly as strong as Diana's entire body and not being KO'd or seriously injured. While Blind no less.
Diana stands point blank in the combined power of the Greek Pantheon and the Godwave. She's in agony but not destroyed and not killed or seriously injured.
I think you got the wrong idea. The OP would have to set conditions up for the fight ie make wonder woman in character and she only has certain types of weaponary.... A bloodlusted WW kills mantis as she couldn't take one of her punches,,, the only real way to enjoy the debate would be for ww to be in character and seeing if mantis fans can prove her powers and skill could take down the amazon princess... New 52 ww would be a better match than old 52,, things of that nature... the matches this op set up were skewed mostly in dc's favor as they were one sided... and that was the only interesting battle and still conditions would have to be in the right manner to give mantis fans the chance to debate..... my fault for confusing... sorry about that...
@thebestofthebest: I misspoke on mantis,, its not like mind control,, its empathy as she can make her opponent empathize with her which is like tp. I will send you some stuff on her later...
In this battle,, ww wins and wins easily as most of the dc characters do.. Moondragon, Wasp and Scarlett Witch are the only marvel characters that win their match ups... but in the battle royal,, I would say scarlett witch wins...
I was talking about actually creating a thread that would be able to be debated properly for mantis vs ww... The conditions would have to be a certain criteria which are not in this particular thread...again sorry I got off topic of this particular thread as I think I have confused you. and think you think I am debating for mantis which I am not... : )
@thebestofthebest: I misspoke on mantis,, its not like mind control,, its empathy as she can make her opponent empathize with her which is like tp. I will send you some stuff on her later...
In this battle,, ww wins and wins easily as most of the dc characters do.. Moondragon, Wasp and Scarlett Witch are the only marvel characters that win their match ups... but in the battle royal,, I would say scarlett witch wins...
I was talking about actually creating a thread that would be able to be debated properly for mantis vs ww... The conditions would have to be a certain criteria which are not in this particular thread...again sorry I got off topic of this particular thread as I think I have confused you. and think you think I am debating for mantis which I am not... : )
Am not Confused lol and am debating you either lol i just gaved you a Glance about WW But you do realize Scarlet Witch ''HOM'' version can Solo her team and DC team with Ultra Ease She's Multiversal Reality warper ^^.
yeah hom SW would destroy everyone here and take their powers from them lol... Pre HOM as in right before HOM, she would destroy both sides too as she is still a reality warper...Raven and Zantana may be able double team her tho and do some crazy magic dark magic combo on her to keep her down for a while tho...but the most powerful here is by far SW
@newecho: I Know Right , Zatana or Raven Ain't Do S**h to SW ''HOM'' Hell Put The JLA and Avenger's with them , she will remove them from existence before they react lol .
@thebestofthebest: Thank you SO MUCH for contributing to this thread, and you KNOW I have enjoyed conversing with you on various threads. But you have GOT to read up on the abilities of the Black Witch. As @outside_85 can tell you, she is no joke. There is really, REALLY a question of whether Pre HOM Wanda can beat her; and if Raven, Zatanna AND Black Witch ganged up on HOM Wanda, they would be a FAR greater threat than if even the other JLA and Avengers members ganged up on Wanda---TRUST ME on this!
@thebestofthebest: Black Witch now has the COMBINED power of her OWN impressive abilities, an entire PLANET of the 31st centuries most ruthless and powerful mages, AND the planet's leader, Mordru (if you have even a LITTLE bit of knowledge of Legion Of Superheroes lore, you know how powerful he is).
TRUST ME---she's MORE than able to stand up to pre HOM Wanda, and (with Zatanna and Raven's help) POSSIBLY defeat HOM Wanda.
Wow---I didn't realize more responses occurred after I last looked in on this thread. Let's see if some more can be obtained. To do that, it looks like I'll have to New Age Outlaws things, and CAAAAALLLL SOME-BO-DAAAAAAAAAAY!!! @myerlanski@agentofchaos1@egyptian_god_ra@xiix@cosmic_light107@pokeysteve ---who would win this CATFIGHT SUPREME?
@theonewhoknows: i can say that powergir wins vs she hulk. powergirl would fight toe to toe with superman, who would beat the hulk (due to speed), who is superior in every way to she hulk.
People, you all are underestimating the powerful Black Witch, who would give hOM Scarlet Witch a battle worthwhile. While HOM Scarlet Witch does possess and has incredible feats, Black Witch has accumulated more than enough magical energies and limitless powers to not only contend with her, but defeat kill 6/10. The only drawbacks that Black Witch will have to find a way out of is Scarlet Witch's hex bolts, which have done stupid crazy things that should've been considered PIS but isn't! Black Witch, Zatanna, and Raven will have more than enough fire powers and magical abilities to erase HOM Scarlet Witch from existence! Beside, Scarlet Witch's powers went haywire during that saga because of her dream-like state and a lack of emotional control, brought on also by a power grab of powerful mystical energies from Chulthl (spelling mistake). Raven alone would take her down before she could even think or feel anything to think about, much less send her to Trigon or remove her powers altogether like what Zatanna could do!
The rest of DC cleans house without any difficulty other than the matchup between:
Jade vs Photon --> This could go any which ways depending on how bloodlusted they are. Monica could potentially defeat Jade, but Jade has both her father's magical abilities which could mean the difference in a life and death situation if she uses it in depth like Alan does.
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