DC vs Annihilators (yes, again)
Still thinking silver surfer can win this as op stated no morals him & BRB could just let loose & quasar can drain any one here easy & protect Gladiator & the rest from MM ,i think annihilators win barely because of silver surfer with no morals .
" btw, what normal power level of superman are you talking about, his normal power level or silver age version is his normal power of his superman-prime version? "Silver Age is never his normal power level...he is talking about reg current superman
Current." btw, what normal power level of superman are you talking about, his normal power level or silver age version is his normal power of his superman-prime version? "
@HellionVulcan said:
Captain Atom was my answer for Surfer. What do you think of his chances against Surfer?" Still thinking silver surfer can win this as op stated no morals him & BRB could just let loose & quasar can drain any one here easy & protect Gladiator & the rest from MM ,i think annihilators win barely because of silver surfer with no morals . "
" I just read up on Ronan, I had no idea he was so weak. I'll remove Supergirl. "Ronan's a great character and powerful among those near his league. But he is a speck compared to the others.
Removing Supergirl doesn't help much, though. Everyone on team 1 is at least capable of holding their own against Silver Surfer. Nobody on team 2 is on par with the Surfer.
This really is a slaughter.
Really? I seem to have overestimate the member of the annihilators. And if, say, hypothetically, I remove Wonder Woman too?" @Devias said:
Ronan's a great character and powerful among those near his league. But he is a speck compared to the others. Removing Supergirl doesn't help much, though. Everyone on team 1 is at least capable of holding their own against Silver Surfer. Nobody on team 2 is on par with the Surfer. This really is a slaughter. "" I just read up on Ronan, I had no idea he was so weak. I'll remove Supergirl. "
EDIT: I did it anyway.
EDIT2: I placed Wonder Woman in the DC team, again. Sorry about the indecisiveness.
Bill, Gladiator and Quasar are threats.
Heck Quasar actually already has shown the ability to tap into his team mates for a quick power booste to defend them all for example.
They didn't even give him permission, in Theory Quasar could tap Superman dry.
I have no clue how powerful current Atom is now though.
" Bill, Gladiator and Quasar are threats. Heck Quasar actually already has shown the ability to tap into his team mates for a quick power booste to defend them all for example. I have no clue how powerful current Atom is now though. "i'll say bill and silver surfer are the real threats here
@PirateKing69 said:
during the silver age, that's superman normal level anyway the current superman has limits but he is still considered invincible right?" @rayn1984 said:
" btw, what normal power level of superman are you talking about, his normal power level or silver age version is his normal power of his superman-prime version? "Silver Age is never his normal power level...he is talking about reg current superman "
Bill, Gladiator, Quasar and Nova are all threats to DC team. And by the way Anihilators win, rather easy.
"@_Courage_ said:"Couldn't Surfer or Quasar drain Superman and Green Lantern rendering them useless?"
Debatable for the Lantern, even though they've had those rings drained, but yeah.
Quasar already did it to his team just to amp his shielding.
"
Cap Atom has the same power, he could "drain" the other team if he wanted to do so.
" @Hellos said:" Debatable for the Lantern, even though they've had those rings drained, but yeah "I don't think they've been drained by those not linked to a Corps. I could be wrong, though."
I want to say this guy comes to mind right off the bat of someone that really didn't have too much to do with the GL corps outside being a villian:
Atleast before they retconned Atrocitus into being it's creator of that little cosmic Divining Rod and Black Hand just got a hold of it.
Oh well Black Hand, you were smart once upon a time.
Better known as:
Although I find it unlikely Black Hand's the only guy that's tapped into the GL's rings power without actualy being part of the corps.
But hey if a little super pen can drain the ring it's totally on the table for guys like Norrin or Quasar to pull it off.
@CapitolPunishment said:
"Cap Atom has the same power, he could "drain" the other team if he wanted to do so. "
Usually the energy Atom's stealing is being shot at him, for example everytime he goes up against Superman he doesn't even bother to try and take the energy from him.
So does the Surfer, so does Bill, so does Nova not sure about Ronan but maybe him too.
The team is pretty packed energy manipulators, the fact Quasar can use the quantum bands to steal their energy to amp his shields is very impressive.
" @JediXMan: beta ray bill is prob on par with surfer "Surfer already proved superior Bill.
" @Silver2467: i said prob, bills got some asgardian power, i put him up there because hes almost as strong as thor and thors beat surfer plenty of times, but you could very well be right "Thor has only beat Pre-Annihilation Surfer, as far as I know, but fair enough.
" @Silver2467: i said prob, bills got some asgardian power, i put him up there because hes almost as strong as thor and thors beat surfer plenty of times, but you could very well be right "
Pre Annihilation Surfer.
Every single fight he's had with Viking Gods is seemingly been in his favor.
If it be Chaos War where he unleashes a verbal blast of anger on Thor and Herc, Cancerverse Thor that he one shots or Bill who is virtually the Thor's equal.
This could go either way, but i say...........
TEAM 2..........................................................
" Bill, Gladiator and Quasar are threats. Heck Quasar actually already has shown the ability to tap into his team mates for a quick power booste to defend them all for example. They didn't even give him permission, in Theory Quasar could tap Superman dry. I have no clue how powerful current Atom is now though. "From Justice League Generations lost he seems to be at normal levels but I haven't read all of the current issues
I think team 2 takes it
I would also imagine that Atom or Hal could use the radiation that Gladiator is weak against, and Gladaitor doesn't have a good track record against psionics
Surfer and Quasar will be the major factor for team 2's win
To be honest I think it end up being Quasar and Surfer vs Atom and Martian
Atom can beat Quasar
Surfer beats Martian
Surfer beats Atom
" @Cosmic_Falcon said:NP It's probably the best Brightest Day tie right now [IMO]"From Justice League Generations lost he seems to be at normal levels but I haven't read all of the current issues I think team 2 takes it "Okay thanks for the info. =) "
" I would also imagine that Atom or Hal could use the radiation that Gladiator is weak against, and Gladaitor doesn't have a good track record against psionics Surfer and Quasar will be the major factor for team 2's win To be honest I think it end up being Quasar and Surfer vs Atom and Martian Atom can beat Quasar Surfer beats Martian Surfer beats Atom "How would they know the exact radiation type as only silver surfer knows it out of every one in this fight so how to they gain this knowledge as surfer wouldn't go hey this is his weakness i'll wait until you've beaten him so i can destroy u .
" @idukid: Nova was owned by the Surfer - not a bad thing, since it's the Surfer, but the ones on DC's team are at least capable of holding their own."
While true that he got owned by surfer he is definatly not in Ronan's league which ive seen stated a few times and was the motivation for that scan. Hal would own him and Atom too probably, but WW and supes would probably be 50/50 MM and him would be a standstill
" @Cosmic_Falcon said:From what I understand Atom and Hal have a cosmic awareness type ability so they might be able to sense it. Just like Surfer was able to" I would also imagine that Atom or Hal could use the radiation that Gladiator is weak against, and Gladaitor doesn't have a good track record against psionics Surfer and Quasar will be the major factor for team 2's win To be honest I think it end up being Quasar and Surfer vs Atom and Martian Atom can beat Quasar Surfer beats Martian Surfer beats Atom "How would they know the exact radiation type as only silver surfer knows it out of every one in this fight so how to they gain this knowledge as surfer wouldn't go hey this is his weakness i'll wait until you've beaten him so i can destroy u . "
Well i put this in the Nova Flash thread so
Hes taking hits form a full confidence strontian without shields being on. If shields would be on i dont see superman getign through it or WW or MM geting through it an IMP would but thats a different story.
he blocked a cancerverce quasar hit from 2/3 meters
since quasar attacks with photons which travel at light speed and 3 meters away his reaction time must be at most 10 nano-seconds
he has shields against MM's telepathy and if mm goes intangible nova cant hurt him.
He defeated Sphinx by warping through his head he could do that to superman or WW
Hal would be chalanging due to the rings energy at 100% being more than the energy Nova could output during the same time while keepign a shield up
any proof of this as Hal cosmic awareness might not work like silver surfers cosmic awareness & i truly doubt in mid battle they'd find out if Quasar is protecting the team throughout battle plus silver surfer can restore any one in this fight back to 100% as he helped gladiator when he flew a radiation plant into space . ." @HellionVulcan said:
" @Cosmic_Falcon said:From what I understand Atom and Hal have a cosmic awareness type ability so they might be able to sense it. Just like Surfer was able to "" I would also imagine that Atom or Hal could use the radiation that Gladiator is weak against, and Gladaitor doesn't have a good track record against psionics Surfer and Quasar will be the major factor for team 2's win To be honest I think it end up being Quasar and Surfer vs Atom and Martian Atom can beat Quasar Surfer beats Martian Surfer beats Atom "How would they know the exact radiation type as only silver surfer knows it out of every one in this fight so how to they gain this knowledge as surfer wouldn't go hey this is his weakness i'll wait until you've beaten him so i can destroy u . "
" Well i put this in the Nova Flash thread soTheres a massive Difference between Xenith & gladiator thou gladiator is the most powerful of his race but Xenith is second thou plus it'd be better to use the gladiator/Nova fight also as it shows Nova durability & smarts without worldmind . .
Hes taking hits form a full confidence strontian without shields being on. If shields would be on i dont see superman getign through it or WW or MM geting through it an IMP would but thats a different story.
he blocked a cancerverce quasar hit from 2/3 meters
since quasar attacks with photons which travel at light speed and 3 meters away his reaction time must be at most 10 nano-seconds he has shields against MM's telepathy and if mm goes intangible nova cant hurt him. He defeated Sphinx by warping through his head he could do that to superman or WW Hal would be chalanging due to the rings energy at 100% being more than the energy Nova could output during the same time while keepign a shield up "
They fought in http://www.comicvine.com/nova-heavy-mettle/37-18970/ even thou he was testing Nova he didn't go gentle on him at all so its a good feat for nova as this fight lasted way longer then his fight with Xenith ." @HellionVulcan: Not sure i know of when Nova fought Gladiator in the most recent volume? "
I do think Nova now a days can beat Gladiator/Superman level beings tho
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