Dragon ballZ vs 40k wow i love both thing and im a walking encyclopedia on both subjects but in all reality dbz might win. number one because guko would just get pisst seeing chi chi die from an imperial guardsmen, number two once guko is able to turn in too suoer sayen six almost every body is scwerd
the only way i can think of warhammer 40k winnig is if the c'tan,dark gods of chaos the emperor of mankind and the primarch .....and the eldar gods (really you only need to choose one) destroys the dbz unvierse and kills every one in it
DBZ vs Warhammer 40K
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The imperial guard and the Space marins are no match for the Sayens, nor the legion of space marins or the demon, even the Greater one. (After all, if a Heavy Lascanon can off one of them, a Sayen could do this easily, same for avatar of Khaela Mensha Khaine..)
Now, the primarque...I don't know...but I don't think so.
The gods themselve ! Yeah, that's a tricky question, I think Vegeta and piccolo would be easily seduced or trumped by their intrigued and sheer power...but the dark god haven't show their true strenght and Khorne would have delighted by the sheer slaughter the sayen could bring, so, this is a no for them, I think. Goku, would resist their corruption, but that's all, he would have the combat of his life and worse, he would enjoy it !
long live the tau empire ! , he may be over 4000 but hes gonna get pwned like you have never seen my 40k universe
DBZ curbstomp. The simple fact that the Chaos Gods are being trotted out already shows just how screwed everyone lower on the power ladder is. And seriously, every DBZ villain and many of the heros are ripe for Chaos corruption, so why the hell would the Chaos Gods fight them? A chaos-corrupted Kid Buu could solo the Imperium; he's Khorne's dream come true.
"DBZ curbstomp. The simple fact that the Chaos Gods are being trotted out already shows just how screwed everyone lower on the power ladder is. And seriously, every DBZ villain and many of the heros are ripe for Chaos corruption, so why the hell would the Chaos Gods fight them? A chaos-corrupted Kid Buu could solo the Imperium; he's Khorne's dream come true. "
The question isn't whether the Chaos Gods are fighting them. The question is who would win?
"@Alexander Anderson said:"DBZ curbstomp. The simple fact that the Chaos Gods are being trotted out already shows just how screwed everyone lower on the power ladder is. And seriously, every DBZ villain and many of the heros are ripe for Chaos corruption, so why the hell would the Chaos Gods fight them? A chaos-corrupted Kid Buu could solo the Imperium; he's Khorne's dream come true. "The question isn't whether the Chaos Gods are fighting them. The question is who would win? "
If the chaos gods corrupt them then that is a win. They become followers of Khorne or something.
"@Akwa said:"@Alexander Anderson said:If the chaos gods corrupt them then that is a win. They become followers of Khorne or something. ""DBZ curbstomp. The simple fact that the Chaos Gods are being trotted out already shows just how screwed everyone lower on the power ladder is. And seriously, every DBZ villain and many of the heros are ripe for Chaos corruption, so why the hell would the Chaos Gods fight them? A chaos-corrupted Kid Buu could solo the Imperium; he's Khorne's dream come true. "The question isn't whether the Chaos Gods are fighting them. The question is who would win? "
And Khorne would corrupt them all pretty easily. Nearly every DBZ characters life seems to revolve around fighting and martial pride. It's these sorts of things that Khorne moulds.
What part of dbz, and what characters, How hypothetical is this, ie can there be more than one buu, and what about the dbz universe, goku is stronger than gods, he was stronger than gods before dbz.
DBZ has many beings like, buu, janemba, broly, that beast which goku destroyed with a dragonfist (can't remember the name). Freiza the destroyer of worlds, vegeta wiped out countless advanced civilizations like they were nothing. Broly destroyed a galaxy. This is how they could win. They have the dragonballs, the kais are supposed to be powerful and goku makes them look rubbish, and so we know that goku is strong.
So they do have a chance.
I am guessing that GT is staying out of this.
Choas Gods could easily corrupt vast majority of DBZ characters, certainly every villain and probably people like Yamcha, so while all the villains...and possibly Yamcha, and fighting the people who prove to be uncorruptible, either Fateweaver, Ahriman, the Thousand Sons and people of that sort focus on a massive Psyker assault, making the remaining heroes brains explode.
Someone like Goku might be able to single handedly take down entire armies of Space Marines and Orcs and Tyranids, but the vast majority of 40k armies/people and corruptible DBZ characters is distract the uncorruptible DBZ characters while Psykers make their minds go boom.
" @Akwa said:Oh, so this isn't an actual scenario, it's "Everyone from one side lines up and fights everyone from the other side regardless of faction, personality and context." How dull."@Alexander Anderson said:If the chaos gods corrupt them then that is a win. They become followers of Khorne or something. ""DBZ curbstomp. The simple fact that the Chaos Gods are being trotted out already shows just how screwed everyone lower on the power ladder is. And seriously, every DBZ villain and many of the heros are ripe for Chaos corruption, so why the hell would the Chaos Gods fight them? A chaos-corrupted Kid Buu could solo the Imperium; he's Khorne's dream come true. "The question isn't whether the Chaos Gods are fighting them. The question is who would win? "
In that case, Broly blows up the 40K Milky Way before any of the heavy hitters can do anything about it. Nobody in 40K is prepared to deal with that level of destructive power.
just throw them into the eye of terror .all the dbz heroes would get sucked into a the warp and get owned by daemons
"Oh, so this isn't an actual scenario, it's "Everyone from one side lines up and fights everyone from the other side regardless of faction, personality and context." How dull. In that case, Broly blows up the 40K Milky Way before any of the heavy hitters can do anything about it. Nobody in 40K is prepared to deal with that level of destructive power. "Khorne then corrupts Broly, plus most of the other villains, a not even remotely difficult task, lets them kick the crap out of DBZ characters (granting Choas Gift upon Choas gift until they are elevated to the status of Daemon Princes) powering them up to huge levels. If Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort, so Gogeta is out of the equation, instead you have a Daemon Prince Vegeta chasing after Goku.
This is before you include regular Greater Daemons & Daemons, or other Choas Factions, or any other faction in 40k. DBZ can't actually ever win this, The Warp is home to infinite Daemons. They'll all be dead of old age before they make a scratch in Chaos numbers, and the ones that can live beyond can for the most part be corrupted, and if they try to fight as spirits, as DBZ characters have done so before, Slaneesh will probably just eat them, without effort.
40k Totally stomps, Chaos alone stomps. Worst case scenario for 40k is they send out a hundred or so Nurgle Greater Daemons and most DBZ people go insane or die of disease.
" @Alexander Anderson said:"Oh, so this isn't an actual scenario, it's "Everyone from one side lines up and fights everyone from the other side regardless of faction, personality and context." How dull. In that case, Broly blows up the 40K Milky Way before any of the heavy hitters can do anything about it. Nobody in 40K is prepared to deal with that level of destructive power. "Khorne then corrupts Broly, plus most of the other villains, a not even remotely difficult task, lets them kick the crap out of DBZ characters (granting Choas Gift upon Choas gift until they are elevated to the status of Daemon Princes) powering them up to huge levels. If Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort, so Gogeta is out of the equation, instead you have a Daemon Prince Vegeta chasing after Goku. This is before you include regular Greater Daemons & Daemons, or other Choas Factions, or any other faction in 40k. DBZ can't actually ever win this, The Warp is home to infinite Daemons. They'll all be dead of old age before they make a scratch in Chaos numbers, and the ones that can live beyond can for the most part be corrupted, and if they try to fight as spirits, as DBZ characters have done so before, Slaneesh will probably just eat them, without effort. 40k Totally stomps, Chaos alone stomps. Worst case scenario for 40k is they send out a hundred or so Nurgle Greater Daemons and most DBZ people go insane or die of disease. "
Vegeta let babidi do that, he is just too powerful for someone to do that, remember they are stronger than gods.
" @Primarch said:They are stronger then DBZ gods. Not 40k Gods, and it doesn't matter how powerful he is. Vegeta's personality makes him a perfect victim for Khorne. Vegeta could benchpress 10,000 planets on one finger and wipe out the whole galaxy with a ki blast and it would make no difference. Combat is his life, he fights out of anger, he kills, he's too proud and as I said above, if Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort. He has far more experience and power then Babidi could ever hope to have." @Alexander Anderson said:Vegeta let babidi do that, he is just too powerful for someone to do that, remember they are stronger than gods. ""Oh, so this isn't an actual scenario, it's "Everyone from one side lines up and fights everyone from the other side regardless of faction, personality and context." How dull. In that case, Broly blows up the 40K Milky Way before any of the heavy hitters can do anything about it. Nobody in 40K is prepared to deal with that level of destructive power. "Khorne then corrupts Broly, plus most of the other villains, a not even remotely difficult task, lets them kick the crap out of DBZ characters (granting Choas Gift upon Choas gift until they are elevated to the status of Daemon Princes) powering them up to huge levels. If Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort, so Gogeta is out of the equation, instead you have a Daemon Prince Vegeta chasing after Goku. This is before you include regular Greater Daemons & Daemons, or other Choas Factions, or any other faction in 40k. DBZ can't actually ever win this, The Warp is home to infinite Daemons. They'll all be dead of old age before they make a scratch in Chaos numbers, and the ones that can live beyond can for the most part be corrupted, and if they try to fight as spirits, as DBZ characters have done so before, Slaneesh will probably just eat them, without effort. 40k Totally stomps, Chaos alone stomps. Worst case scenario for 40k is they send out a hundred or so Nurgle Greater Daemons and most DBZ people go insane or die of disease. "
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:" @Primarch said:They are stronger then DBZ gods. Not 40k Gods, and it doesn't matter how powerful he is. Vegeta's personality makes him a perfect victim for Khorne. Vegeta could benchpress 10,000 planets on one finger and wipe out the whole galaxy with a ki blast and it would make no difference. Combat is his life, he fights out of anger, he kills, he's too proud and as I said above, if Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort. He has far more experience and power then Babidi could ever hope to have. "" @Alexander Anderson said:Vegeta let babidi do that, he is just too powerful for someone to do that, remember they are stronger than gods. ""Oh, so this isn't an actual scenario, it's "Everyone from one side lines up and fights everyone from the other side regardless of faction, personality and context." How dull. In that case, Broly blows up the 40K Milky Way before any of the heavy hitters can do anything about it. Nobody in 40K is prepared to deal with that level of destructive power. "Khorne then corrupts Broly, plus most of the other villains, a not even remotely difficult task, lets them kick the crap out of DBZ characters (granting Choas Gift upon Choas gift until they are elevated to the status of Daemon Princes) powering them up to huge levels. If Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort, so Gogeta is out of the equation, instead you have a Daemon Prince Vegeta chasing after Goku. This is before you include regular Greater Daemons & Daemons, or other Choas Factions, or any other faction in 40k. DBZ can't actually ever win this, The Warp is home to infinite Daemons. They'll all be dead of old age before they make a scratch in Chaos numbers, and the ones that can live beyond can for the most part be corrupted, and if they try to fight as spirits, as DBZ characters have done so before, Slaneesh will probably just eat them, without effort. 40k Totally stomps, Chaos alone stomps. Worst case scenario for 40k is they send out a hundred or so Nurgle Greater Daemons and most DBZ people go insane or die of disease. "
Nope, for all I see is no proof. How do you know that they are stronger, just because goku makes them look weak, it does not mean that they are. The point is that they are very strong minded, it is his very weakness, that is his strength, he will not allow anybody to control him, goku himself has shown telepathic potential, of course on a very minor scale, but that just shows how powerful he is in mind, he is not brainy, but he is cunning and has alot of willpower, explaining the many mind over matter feats he has demonstrated.
"Warhammer 40 k easily Chaos gods cause Gokus head to explode from the inside "
Yeah right.
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:I am right..thank you for acknowledging that =]"Warhammer 40 k easily Chaos gods cause Gokus head to explode from the inside "Yeah right. "
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:" @Johnny_Nemesis said:I am right..thank you for acknowledging that =] ""Warhammer 40 k easily Chaos gods cause Gokus head to explode from the inside "Yeah right. "
Lol, I knew that you would say that, it is just typical, you make yourself blind to sarcasm to hide your defeat.
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:No I just don'tt you seriously..you are a DBZ wanker and you have no idea what you are talking about" @ultimatewarrior123 said:Lol, I knew that you would say that, it is just typical, you make yourself blind to sarcasm to hide your defeat. "" @Johnny_Nemesis said:I am right..thank you for acknowledging that =] ""Warhammer 40 k easily Chaos gods cause Gokus head to explode from the inside "Yeah right. "
I would hate to use someone else one liners but ...please ... log off forever
The Chaos Gods have been corrupting people since before Mankind existed, they've corrupted normal people, warriors, Super Soldiers (Space Marines), the Primarchs, psychics of massive power who have way more willpower then Vegeta (who handed himself over to Babidi, so he clearly did let other people control him, even if he liked to pretend he didn't). They can corrupt entire planets, and they do." @Primarch said:
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:Nope, for all I see is no proof. How do you know that they are stronger, just because goku makes them look weak, it does not mean that they are. The point is that they are very strong minded, it is his very weakness, that is his strength, he will not allow anybody to control him, goku himself has shown telepathic potential, of course on a very minor scale, but that just shows how powerful he is in mind, he is not brainy, but he is cunning and has alot of willpower, explaining the many mind over matter feats he has demonstrated. "" @Primarch said:They are stronger then DBZ gods. Not 40k Gods, and it doesn't matter how powerful he is. Vegeta's personality makes him a perfect victim for Khorne. Vegeta could benchpress 10,000 planets on one finger and wipe out the whole galaxy with a ki blast and it would make no difference. Combat is his life, he fights out of anger, he kills, he's too proud and as I said above, if Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort. He has far more experience and power then Babidi could ever hope to have. "" @Alexander Anderson said:Vegeta let babidi do that, he is just too powerful for someone to do that, remember they are stronger than gods. ""Oh, so this isn't an actual scenario, it's "Everyone from one side lines up and fights everyone from the other side regardless of faction, personality and context." How dull. In that case, Broly blows up the 40K Milky Way before any of the heavy hitters can do anything about it. Nobody in 40K is prepared to deal with that level of destructive power. "Khorne then corrupts Broly, plus most of the other villains, a not even remotely difficult task, lets them kick the crap out of DBZ characters (granting Choas Gift upon Choas gift until they are elevated to the status of Daemon Princes) powering them up to huge levels. If Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort, so Gogeta is out of the equation, instead you have a Daemon Prince Vegeta chasing after Goku. This is before you include regular Greater Daemons & Daemons, or other Choas Factions, or any other faction in 40k. DBZ can't actually ever win this, The Warp is home to infinite Daemons. They'll all be dead of old age before they make a scratch in Chaos numbers, and the ones that can live beyond can for the most part be corrupted, and if they try to fight as spirits, as DBZ characters have done so before, Slaneesh will probably just eat them, without effort. 40k Totally stomps, Chaos alone stomps. Worst case scenario for 40k is they send out a hundred or so Nurgle Greater Daemons and most DBZ people go insane or die of disease. "
Amnaich was just a Greater Daemon, an he corrupted every planet in the Golwyn Belt. Lords of Change often cause entire scores of men to explode just by looking at them. Vegeta has never had to deal with a Psyker of that calibur. Khorne was strong enough to throw someone (who could fly) and they traveled for 8 days and nights. Vegeta has never hit/thrown someone that hard.
Do you have evidence Vegeta could resist psyker Gods? Not the Greater Daemons, thee gods that produce trillions of daemons?
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:The Chaos Gods have been corrupting people since before Mankind existed, they've corrupted normal people, warriors, Super Soldiers (Space Marines), the Primarchs, psychics of massive power who have way more willpower then Vegeta (who handed himself over to Babidi, so he clearly did let other people control him, even if he liked to pretend he didn't). They can corrupt entire planets, and they do." @Primarch said:
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:Nope, for all I see is no proof. How do you know that they are stronger, just because goku makes them look weak, it does not mean that they are. The point is that they are very strong minded, it is his very weakness, that is his strength, he will not allow anybody to control him, goku himself has shown telepathic potential, of course on a very minor scale, but that just shows how powerful he is in mind, he is not brainy, but he is cunning and has alot of willpower, explaining the many mind over matter feats he has demonstrated. "" @Primarch said:They are stronger then DBZ gods. Not 40k Gods, and it doesn't matter how powerful he is. Vegeta's personality makes him a perfect victim for Khorne. Vegeta could benchpress 10,000 planets on one finger and wipe out the whole galaxy with a ki blast and it would make no difference. Combat is his life, he fights out of anger, he kills, he's too proud and as I said above, if Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort. He has far more experience and power then Babidi could ever hope to have. "" @Alexander Anderson said:Vegeta let babidi do that, he is just too powerful for someone to do that, remember they are stronger than gods. ""Oh, so this isn't an actual scenario, it's "Everyone from one side lines up and fights everyone from the other side regardless of faction, personality and context." How dull. In that case, Broly blows up the 40K Milky Way before any of the heavy hitters can do anything about it. Nobody in 40K is prepared to deal with that level of destructive power. "Khorne then corrupts Broly, plus most of the other villains, a not even remotely difficult task, lets them kick the crap out of DBZ characters (granting Choas Gift upon Choas gift until they are elevated to the status of Daemon Princes) powering them up to huge levels. If Babidi could corrupt Vegeta, Khorne could without effort, so Gogeta is out of the equation, instead you have a Daemon Prince Vegeta chasing after Goku. This is before you include regular Greater Daemons & Daemons, or other Choas Factions, or any other faction in 40k. DBZ can't actually ever win this, The Warp is home to infinite Daemons. They'll all be dead of old age before they make a scratch in Chaos numbers, and the ones that can live beyond can for the most part be corrupted, and if they try to fight as spirits, as DBZ characters have done so before, Slaneesh will probably just eat them, without effort. 40k Totally stomps, Chaos alone stomps. Worst case scenario for 40k is they send out a hundred or so Nurgle Greater Daemons and most DBZ people go insane or die of disease. "
Amnaich was just a Greater Daemon, an he corrupted every planet in the Golwyn Belt. Lords of Change often cause entire scores of men to explode just by looking at them. Vegeta has never had to deal with a Psyker of that calibur. Khorne was strong enough to throw someone (who could fly) and they traveled for 8 days and nights. Vegeta has never hit/thrown someone that hard.
Do you have evidence Vegeta could resist psyker Gods? Not the Greater Daemons, thee gods that produce trillions of daemons? "
Firstly, saiyans existed way before mankind, who cares.
Secondly, saiyans have wasted super soldiers, warriors.
The point is that vegeta chose to be controlled, and then broke out, displaying his awesome will power. This was the same magician that controlled the demon KING, The son of the Magician who created Buu who makes gods look pathetic.
All of that power was broken by the same pride that was supposed to enslave vegeta, perhaps I am overestimating him, though it is an opinion (Your opinion). That is my evidence, and yes you still may say that he has not faced somebody of that power, but I say how do you know that it will corrupt vegeta. Even weak-minded Broly over-came the best mind control tool science could offer. Vegeta has never hit or thrown somebody that hard because he used to be the killing kind. Take Nappa for instance he could have left nappa, but he destroyed Nappa.
Do you think that Vegeta would be facing the big boy, no, it would be goku, you know current goku who is now immortal. Goku is pure in heart and so Psyker can not do anything. He was able to use nimbus. Even gohan and goten were able to use nimbus, and so it shows that he would ot have the same impact on them.
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:" @Johnny_Nemesis said:No I just don'tt you seriously..you are a DBZ wanker and you have no idea what you are talking about I would hate to use someone else one liners but ...please ... log off forever "" @ultimatewarrior123 said:Lol, I knew that you would say that, it is just typical, you make yourself blind to sarcasm to hide your defeat. "" @Johnny_Nemesis said:I am right..thank you for acknowledging that =] ""Warhammer 40 k easily Chaos gods cause Gokus head to explode from the inside "Yeah right. "
Resorting to insults, tsk tsk tsk. Yes I like dbz, but to be honest I prefer marvel. I know what I am talking about, it is just that you are to arrogant to realise that somebody can think differently to you. It is an opinion, and I think that DBZ would win, I just get the idea that you hate DBZ.
The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user
Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside
DBZ gets annhilated
"The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside DBZ gets annhilated "
Solar system is not a feat, they could have been very weak minded, you missed the point, the z-fighters are not. Goku is pure and so will not be controlled. Vegeta has been cleared of all charges, and loves his family, and so no matter how much he dislikes it, he is not the savage he once was.
Being pure of heart provides no defence to a warp storm causing your head to explode, and Goku has no feats to show he could resist it." @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside DBZ gets annhilated "Solar system is not a feat, they could have been very weak minded, you missed the point, the z-fighters are not. Goku is pure and so will not be controlled. Vegeta has been cleared of all charges, and loves his family, and so no matter how much he dislikes it, he is not the savage he once was. "
"@ultimatewarrior123 said:Being pure of heart provides no defence to a warp storm causing your head to explode, and Goku has no feats to show he could resist it. "" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside DBZ gets annhilated "Solar system is not a feat, they could have been very weak minded, you missed the point, the z-fighters are not. Goku is pure and so will not be controlled. Vegeta has been cleared of all charges, and loves his family, and so no matter how much he dislikes it, he is not the savage he once was. "
That is something different to being controlled. Goku's body itself is not incredibly strong, it is his ki, that makes him strong, it is also why he can take constant bombardment of planet busters, and his clothes won't scratch. Therefore, Goku in my opinion has the ki manipulating ability to withstand those kind of attacks, especially now that he is immortal.
" @Primarch said:Ki has nothing to do with The Warp, which is what they would use to "make his head blow up." It would be like using a riot shield to protect against a telepathic attack, or wearing a kevlar vest when someone is burning you with a flamethrower. I was a big DBZ fan back in the day, I know what Goku can do, he has no defense against a Warp attack to make his head go boom."@ultimatewarrior123 said:That is something different to being controlled. Goku's body itself is not incredibly strong, it is his ki, that makes him strong, it is also why he can take constant bombardment of planet busters, and his clothes won't scratch. Therefore, Goku in my opinion has the ki manipulating ability to withstand those kind of attacks, especially now that he is immortal. "Being pure of heart provides no defence to a warp storm causing your head to explode, and Goku has no feats to show he could resist it. "" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside DBZ gets annhilated "Solar system is not a feat, they could have been very weak minded, you missed the point, the z-fighters are not. Goku is pure and so will not be controlled. Vegeta has been cleared of all charges, and loves his family, and so no matter how much he dislikes it, he is not the savage he once was. "
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:" @Primarch said:Ki has nothing to do with The Warp, which is what they would use to "make his head blow up." It would be like using a riot shield to protect against a telepathic attack, or wearing a kevlar vest when someone is burning you with a flamethrower. I was a big DBZ fan back in the day, I know what Goku can do, he has no defense against a Warp attack to make his head go boom. ""@ultimatewarrior123 said:That is something different to being controlled. Goku's body itself is not incredibly strong, it is his ki, that makes him strong, it is also why he can take constant bombardment of planet busters, and his clothes won't scratch. Therefore, Goku in my opinion has the ki manipulating ability to withstand those kind of attacks, especially now that he is immortal. "Being pure of heart provides no defence to a warp storm causing your head to explode, and Goku has no feats to show he could resist it. "" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside DBZ gets annhilated "Solar system is not a feat, they could have been very weak minded, you missed the point, the z-fighters are not. Goku is pure and so will not be controlled. Vegeta has been cleared of all charges, and loves his family, and so no matter how much he dislikes it, he is not the savage he once was. "
Actually, explain what you mean by warp. Telepaths like king kai, supreme kai etc... can protect him. Babidi has spells. Goku can be brought back to life, by that giant guy (name escapes me).
Psychics in 40k don't use psychic powers in the typical sense, so telepaths like King Kai couldn't protect him. The Warp itself is a realm next to "real space," that is, our dimension." @Primarch said:
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:Actually, explain what you mean by warp. Telepaths like king kai, supreme kai etc... can protect him. Babidi has spells. Goku can be brought back to life, by that giant guy (name escapes me). "" @Primarch said:Ki has nothing to do with The Warp, which is what they would use to "make his head blow up." It would be like using a riot shield to protect against a telepathic attack, or wearing a kevlar vest when someone is burning you with a flamethrower. I was a big DBZ fan back in the day, I know what Goku can do, he has no defense against a Warp attack to make his head go boom. ""@ultimatewarrior123 said:That is something different to being controlled. Goku's body itself is not incredibly strong, it is his ki, that makes him strong, it is also why he can take constant bombardment of planet busters, and his clothes won't scratch. Therefore, Goku in my opinion has the ki manipulating ability to withstand those kind of attacks, especially now that he is immortal. "Being pure of heart provides no defence to a warp storm causing your head to explode, and Goku has no feats to show he could resist it. "" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside DBZ gets annhilated "Solar system is not a feat, they could have been very weak minded, you missed the point, the z-fighters are not. Goku is pure and so will not be controlled. Vegeta has been cleared of all charges, and loves his family, and so no matter how much he dislikes it, he is not the savage he once was. "
To take a description from Lexicanum-
Warpspace is a dimension of random energy known as Chaos. It is the domain of the Chaos Gods. The warp is without form and with its own fluid laws of time and space. Its energies are in constant turmoil, subject to endless disturbances. The common analogy used to describe warp space compares the warp to a vast sea of energy, which is subject to constant movement, currents, undertows, etc. Although with its own reality, warp and real space do bear a relationship as dimensions parallel to each other.
While the energy is "random" and constantly changing, it is to a degree psychic energy, but its not brainwaves like what someone like Jean Grey would use. Even if King Kai could protect Goku against the energy itself, which I don't think he can, we've never seen any psychic feats from anyone in DBZ to suggest they have the talent of people in 40k like Ahriman, who as impressive as he is, would be weaker then Daemon Princes and of course, the Gods themselves. Bar Khorne, who wouldn't use psychic powers.
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:Psychics in 40k don't use psychic powers in the typical sense, so telepaths like King Kai couldn't protect him. The Warp itself is a realm next to "real space," that is, our dimension." @Primarch said:
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:Actually, explain what you mean by warp. Telepaths like king kai, supreme kai etc... can protect him. Babidi has spells. Goku can be brought back to life, by that giant guy (name escapes me). "" @Primarch said:Ki has nothing to do with The Warp, which is what they would use to "make his head blow up." It would be like using a riot shield to protect against a telepathic attack, or wearing a kevlar vest when someone is burning you with a flamethrower. I was a big DBZ fan back in the day, I know what Goku can do, he has no defense against a Warp attack to make his head go boom. ""@ultimatewarrior123 said:That is something different to being controlled. Goku's body itself is not incredibly strong, it is his ki, that makes him strong, it is also why he can take constant bombardment of planet busters, and his clothes won't scratch. Therefore, Goku in my opinion has the ki manipulating ability to withstand those kind of attacks, especially now that he is immortal. "Being pure of heart provides no defence to a warp storm causing your head to explode, and Goku has no feats to show he could resist it. "" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"The point is Vegeta broke out of mind control from a weak magic user Skorn is a Chaos God that made an entire solar system worth of people go insane..he would cause Gokus head to explode from the inside DBZ gets annhilated "Solar system is not a feat, they could have been very weak minded, you missed the point, the z-fighters are not. Goku is pure and so will not be controlled. Vegeta has been cleared of all charges, and loves his family, and so no matter how much he dislikes it, he is not the savage he once was. "
To take a description from Lexicanum-
Warpspace is a dimension of random energy known as Chaos. It is the domain of the Chaos Gods. The warp is without form and with its own fluid laws of time and space. Its energies are in constant turmoil, subject to endless disturbances. The common analogy used to describe warp space compares the warp to a vast sea of energy, which is subject to constant movement, currents, undertows, etc. Although with its own reality, warp and real space do bear a relationship as dimensions parallel to each other.
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While the energy is "random" and constantly changing, it is to a degree psychic energy, but its not brainwaves like what someone like Jean Grey would use. Even if King Kai could protect Goku against the energy itself, which I don't think he can, we've never seen any psychic feats from anyone in DBZ to suggest they have the talent of people in 40k like Ahriman, who as impressive as he is, would be weaker then Daemon Princes and of course, the Gods themselves. Bar Khorne, who wouldn't use psychic powers.
Well, there is one thing that is bothering me, how would goku get into that realm. Goku is able to counter energy blasts, and waves.
" Well, there is one thing that is bothering me, how would goku get into that realm. Goku is able to counter energy blasts, and waves. "Oh Goku would have no way of entering it, but people like Psykers (people who can use psychic powers, like Ahriman), or Daemons, Greater Daemons etc etc, can call upon energy from the Warp, and blast people in the Real world.
Is this thread still going on? DBZ gets curbstomped badly...1 chaos god would simply hand wave them away
" @ultimatewarrior123 said:" Well, there is one thing that is bothering me, how would goku get into that realm. Goku is able to counter energy blasts, and waves. "Oh Goku would have no way of entering it, but people like Psykers (people who can use psychic powers, like Ahriman), or Daemons, Greater Daemons etc etc, can call upon energy from the Warp, and blast people in the Real world. "
That is similar to galactus drawing up the power cosmic. It can be blocked, goku is able to manipulate his body structure. There are millions of fighters in dbz, if not billions. most around frieza level and above.
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