First of all, the author of the manga himself did away with explicit power levels after the Frieza saga because he found them to cumbersome.
Do you have a source for this? See, I've seen statements like this crop up a lot lately, and the problem is they are extremely inconsistent, with people variously claiming Toriyama stated PLs were "cumbersome," to "useless," to "meaningless," which don't all necessarily end up meaning the same thing. So if you're going to make part of your argument depend on what he actually said, it should be important to make sure we all know what he actually said, and not what you just remember someone saying they heard someone else say he said.
So most of these calculations that goes into most DBZ debates, specifically the ones using calculations to predict damage output are bull.
That doesn't follow from what you said above. "Cumbersome" doesn't mean BS, it just means he didn't want to deal with the numbers anymore. That doesn't mean they are actually useless and people can't extrapolate on their own, just that he didn't feel like doing it.
In my opinion, the author wanted strength to be based on feats, not numbers, which is how it should be.
I think that depends a lot on how you define "feats." A lot of people on the vine conveniently view feats involving other characters as invalid when it comes to DBZ. Most of determining DBZ power comes from it being clearly shown which characters can defeat which other characters and how easily.
Concerning power levels, they ARE NOT LINEAR. I had to put that in caps and bold it because this seems to be the one thing no one understands. Take the farmer from DBZ and Roshi when he destroyed the moon. The farmer had a PL of 5 and Roshi about 139. If Power levels were linear, that farmer should be capable of easily destroying mountains and towns. But he isn't because power levels ARE NOT LINEAR.
If you want to get real pedantic about these things, we don't actually know what the Farmer was capable of, we just know that he's weaker than Raditz. But aside from that, the thing I always find funny about this argument is that it basically reads as "Power Levels aren't linear, therefore they could be almost anything and we just have no idea so we shouldn't use them at all."
The reason it is funny is because the difference between "Joe average Farmer" and Roshi would actually imply PLs to have a highly exponential growth, meaning a factor of just a few between two different characters would amount to insanely higher energy output. So really, when people treat PLs as linear, that is the lowest growth rate we have evidence for. Using the low-end power levels, it could be substantially higher than linear. What no one has actually ever done, or at least not that I've seen, is show clear evidence that PLs ever scale at less than a linear curve.
All that aside though, for the most part, PLs actually do seem to scale linearly, with the Kaio-Ken attack and SS1 transformation being pretty good indicators. Yes, there is an extreme difference when dealing with very low power levels, but there are two pretty simple explanations. One is that PLs do follow a highly exponential curve at very low numbers but then level off. The other is that Scouters or the entire system are just not calibrated to properly account for levels below a couple hundred. Really, the PL system doesn't come into effect until most of the relevant characters are already a bit above 300.
BTW, I'm pretty sure Roshi was only reading at 139 when he was calm. He destroyed the moon when he buffed up. I imagine it raised his PL much like any transformation would (not to mention we also know Goku's rating goes way up when he charges a kamehameha).
Also, with the Roshi and Piccolo moon busting you can take away 1 of 3 things. One, the moon in DB is a p*ssy. Two, its a BS, high-end feat. Or three, the moon in DB is a p*ssy.
The third thing you can take away is that it showed them blowing up the moon, so it means they can blow up the moon, end of story. Roshi did it, and later on an even more powerful character did it more easily, which gives us confirmation. That you do not even seem to acknowledge the possibility this could be a legitimate feat indicates you are being heavily biased.
I mean, let's see here: earlier, you said "the author wanted strength to be based on feats, not numbers, which is how it should be." But when actually presented with a feat, performed by two different characters at different times, you dismiss it out of hand. So you are conveniently denying both DBZ power levels and DBZ feats.
And you're wondering why someone else felt you were anti-DBZ?
We have the Saiyan Saga. Vegeta claims he will destroy the planet out of rage. Vegeta is now capable of busting planets? No, its hyperbole!
Based on what? Roshi and Piccolo were much, much weaker than Vegeta. You already pointed out the difference between a PL of 5 and a PL 139 is gargantuan, so why wouldn't the jump from a PL of ~300 to about 18,000 take you from moon busting to planet busting?
If you include the anime, then Vegeta is confirmed on-screen as a casual planet-buster.
We have the Cell saga. Cell claims he is going to destroy the solar system/galaxy with a single attack.
Solar system. Solar systems and galaxies aren't even remotely the same things either, so I don't know why you put them like that. Cell didn't state it like that, he just said solar system.
What we do know is that Frieza was capable of destroying a planet with a PL of 120,000,000 in the namek saga although I wouldnt say it was casual. Arguments will be made that he destroyed planet vegeta in his base form but this is debatable.
It's not debateable at all, that's what happened. It's been shown and stated plenty of times. It looks like someone provided an early scan already. Vegeta had 10x the gravity of earth, and Freeza destroyed it in his base form very easily.
Furthermore, Raditz and Vegeta both say that asteroids were the cause of the 'planets' destruction. So, for the sake of clean debates, base form frieza is not a planet buster but final form is.
The asteroid explanation was a lie Freeza told Vegeta. This was made explicitly clear by Dodoria before Vegeta killed him. This is actually the first place we even learn that Freeza was the one who destroyed the planet. I'm kind of surprised anyone could even remember the asteroid explanation and forget that it was later revealed to just be a lie.
As said in the previous paragraphs, power levels ARE NOT LINEAR and there is a 'plateau' in destructive capabilities. The evidence of this 'plateau' stems from either choice you picked for moon busting. If Roshi really did have the power to destroy the moon, then fine. But you can't tell me he ever had the power to destroy the earth.
No one ever claimed Roshi could destroy the earth. People claim that characters much, much stronger than Roshi, who can already destroy the moon, would be capable of destroying the earth. It's actually a pretty straightforward line of thought.
So, Cell, who is vastly more powerful than Frieza, who is the first to actually 'display' planet busting, for all intents and purposes is still only in the power level busting range albeit much more casually. The only true casual planet busting we see in DBZ is from Kid Buu.
Freeza is a casual planet buster in his base form. Any character who could curbstomp 1st form Freeza, which includes even Piccolo and base Vegeta and Goku by the end of the Freeza saga, are also casual planet busters, but even moreso. That's even before factoring in the 50x power up for just SS1. Then you've got the two levels of buff Super Saiyans and Mastered Super Saiyan, followed by full blown Super Saiayn 2, another 2x multiplier, which is about where Super Perfect Cell was when he made his statement.
Now, there is no doubt that actually destroying a whole solar system requires immensely more power than destroying a planet (for reference, a typical supernova emits something like 10^44 joules of energy, whereas destroying the earth would only require around 10^32, so 12 orders of magnitude, or a factor of 1 trillion between them, although a supernova could very well exceed the minimum for solar system busting). However, the difference between 1st form Freeza and SP Cell is also immense; Freeza may as well be a germ to him at that point. Figuring the exact difference between the two would take some extrapolation and guesswork, but it is certainly gigantic. And if Toriyama actually confirmed he could destroy the solar system, that's about the end of the discussion. It would be like finding a piece of paper by J.R.R. Tolkien stating that Sauron could destroy the moon or something; we're not talking about corporate entities the way western comics characters are, we're talking about works where the authors are actually the authority on the matter.
Anyway, sorry, but you're going too far out of your way to try and dismiss clear, on-panel showings as irrelevant for this to hold up well. Even low level DBZ characters are moon busters, and they go up from there. I don't know about any claims of galaxy busting though, other than the Broly movie (non-canon) and maybe the anime version of Kid Buu.
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