DBZ 5 on 5 battle

SSJ1 Goku + SSJ1 Vegeta + SSJ1 Future Gohan + SSJ1 Future Trunks + Super Namek Piccolo

VS

Frieza + Andoid 16 + Future Android 17 + Future Android 18 + Cell

VS

Rules:

Forget about the image with the Androids 17 and 18...they are the Future versions, not the ones that appear in the image...all of the others, are the ones that appear in the images.

The Battle takes place on the desert

They start at 100 feet away from each other

Who wins and why?

@bat_girl_cc: Need some Info.

Is this Goku from namek or is it Goku after Namek but before his training for the Androids, or is it Goku after his training for the androids but before the heart Virus struck, or is it Goku after his training for Cell once he master Full-powered SSJ1. need more info.

Same with Vegeta and Future trunks. Post or pre-Hyperbolic time chamber?

Same with Piccolo honestly, Post or Pre Hyperbolic Super Namek?

And which version of Cell? Cell gained a drastic increase in power between when he first showed up where he was much weaker than Super Piccolo and had to use Solar Flare to escape and after he had devoured several cities worth of people to gain strength enough to capture the Androids.

Honestly there isn't any real way to balance this.

Future 18 and Future 17 are "weaker" than their standard timeline counterparts so they get beaten by Super Namek either way, Same with Base Imperfect Cell. 16 is outright stronger than anyone pre hyperbolic time chamber so with out giving them their training the Saiyans and Piccolo get stomped. But if you give the Saiyans their training each and every one of them would single handily stomp the other team since Ascended Saiyan Trunkis and Vegeta are stronger than even Semi-perfect Cell, Super Namek Piccolo post Hyperbolic Time chamber can fight somewhat decently against a Cell Junior, and Full-powered SSJ1 Goku is a match for a 90%-ish Perfect Cell. Frieza is entirely out of his League unless you are limiting Goku to pre Namek exploding.....and even then he is kinda out of his League. Honestly no matter how you match this up it's kind of a mismatch.

@cerberus369616:

I said it on the rules...everyone is who appears in the images, minus the Androids:

- SSJ1 Goku after beating Frieza on Namek;

- Vegeta shortly after going SSJ1 for the first time;

- Future SSJ1 Gohan;

- Future SSJ1 Trunks, when he first met Goku;

- Super Namek Piccolo, right after becoming "one" with Kami...when he first met Cell;

VS

- Frieza strongest version;

- Android 16

- Future Android 17 and Future Android 18 (they are as strong as the sayains

- Cell when he first fought Super Namek Piccolo (before he absorbed anyone)

Team 2 has the weakest and the strongest!...Frieza would be the first to go down...the sayains would stallemate the androids 17 and 18...super namek piccolo could at least hold his own against Cell...and Android 16 is the wild card here...i think that in the end, it really comes down to, who faces who, and how fast each one goes down, for ones to help the others...and Super Namek Piccolo, Cell, and Android 16 are all around the same powerlevel...Cell vs Super Namek Piccolo is an even match, we all saw it happening...and Android 16 is twice as strong as 17 yes, but Super Namek Piccolo was just toying with 17...and 16 was also fighting evenly against Cell, someone that fought evenly wagainst Super Namek Piccolo...i can see it going either way.

Team 2 absoulate god stomp

Having more dudes never really works in DBZ. Like ever. Like Not once, except in a couple movies.

It would be one thing if both teams had someone of equal strength but Team 2 out right has the stronger guys. Future Android 17 and 18 may be 'weaker" than their counterparts, but we know Trunks couldn't defeat them at that point and he deemed that Goku (who had grown more powerful training on Yardrat) couldn't either hence the 3 years of training leading up the the Android's attack. By extension Vegeta who was about equal to Goku when he first went Super Saiyan couldn't either. He didn't do it until he returned to his time line after the Hyperbolic Time chamber. Super Namek Piccolo isn't "close" to 16 in strength, not even remotely. Both him and 17 got stomped by Cell after he absorbed people and 16 was able to stalemate that version of Cell. The only questionable aspect here is how Cell from that point matches up with a base Super Saiyan.

So we have

Goku > Frieza

Trunks<Android 18

Future Gohan<Android 17

Vegeta >=< Cell

Android 16 >> Super Namek Piccolo

Best Case scenario Frieza get's stomped faster than anyone else, which is unlikely because if Piccolo goes around handling the weaker guys 16 is gonna stomp whoever he fights, and then one of the Super Saiyans tries to double team somebody and it doesn't work because it never works.

unlike a Comic book fight the way a person in DBZ is both faster and stronger and more durable when they are more powerful, not just one aspect, having multiple people never matters. Attacking from multiple directions pretty much doesn't matter for anyone here since they have a way of sensing Ki there for sneak attacks rarely matter (except for the androids using sneak attacks since they don't have Ki to sense). And even if they did Team 2 is demonstrably more powerful than Team 1, the only person who can "hang" is Super Piccolo and 16 outclasses him greatly. Hell if by some miracle one of the Androids is defeated Cell can absorb the parts and then Mega stomp anyone on the other team.

Dude, you're killing my thread...STOP IT!!...lol

Yeah, 16 is maybe too much here, i actually chosed him, because i wantted this to be 5-on-5 and 16 was like...the cool one, left...xd

Still, picture this:

- SSJ1 Future Trunks beats Frieza

- SSJ1 Vegeta and SSJ1 Future Gohan, manage to beat the androids 17 and 18 (Future Gohan almost did it, by himself)

(i don't care about Trunk's opinions, he didn't said he was sure either, he just said that he thought that...blah, blah, blah...many things don't match up from one timeline to the other, anyway...androids 19 and 20...Trunks didn't knew about them...present time androids were also stronger, so down goes Trunk's thoughts).

- SSJ1 Goku holds off Cell

- Super Namek Piccolo holds off 16

So quicly, it's going to 5-on-2 and then 5-on-1.

It's possible, not a mismatch :p just saying...

@bat_girl_cc:

Sorry about your thread but a mismatch is a mismatch.

Frieza is a non factor so him being defeated doesn't really matter other than it making the weaker team have to take up some of their much needed time..

Future Gohan didn't almost defeat both of them at the same time, or either of them. During the Video he was made to look as if he could hang with them but Android 17 confirmed he was never even using more than half his power when fighting Future Gohan, he wasn't taking him seriously. those androids were like children in bodies with way too much power, they toyed with all their enemies so Future Gohan's showings against them are really invalid. Both Trunks and Bulma confirmed that Trunks at the point of him traveling back in time was about the same power level as Future Gohan, if Trunks was even remotely strong enough to take on the androids prior to time traveling he would have done so. He time traveled because he thought it was his best bet.

You a can't shoot down Trunks' opinion on His own, Goku's and the Android's abilities. DBZ characters can sense ki and therefore approximate power . He specifically tested Goku to find out how strong he was and he deemed it not enough to defeat the Androids. he is the only living being who has faced the androids and tested Goku so he is the absolute best gauge for who is stronger. Just because he didn't know the timelines were different doesn't have anything to do with his rightness. I may not know about thermodynamis but it has nothing to do with me being able to tell which of my friends is better at arm wrestling after arm wrestling them.

SSj1 Vegeta and SSj1 Gohan aren't beating the future androids. And even if they do it requires a very specific match up, them to do it faster than Android 16 beating Piccolo which isn't happening,and then they have to pull off a maneuver of several weaker people all weakened from their individual fights against tough opponents to defeat an adversary who never runs out of energy and probably hasn't been wounded because he is fighting weaker opponents. If you have to reach that hard for the win, it's a mismatch.

Team 2

Wasn't Future Gohan fighting both the future versions of the Androids 1v2? With one arm? Yea....If Cell isn't in perfect form then team two loses.

Goku and Android 16 would be a close battle. I believe Android 16 would win more cases than not.

Vegeta would beat Frieza

Gohan would beat Android 17

Trunks beats Android 18, since they are weaker than the orginal versions being the future versions.

Piccolo vs Cell would be a good fight, but I'll give it to Piccolo.

So that leaves everyone except Goku vs Android 16. They pull it off, but it'll be tough and some of them likely go down with him

Unless Cell can absorb the androids....Then he stomps all by himself in Perfect mode.

Team 1. SSJ1 Trunks already has dealt with the future androids by himself, this leaves Frieza, 16 and Cell. Frieza has already been dealt with by Goku and Trunks, which takes him out. Cell was being handled by Piccolo, so he can deal with him until they finish off the others.