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#1 Posted by CosmicCupcake (74 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins? Fight to the Death.

#2 Posted by XiiX (7485 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader.

#3 Posted by Kovak (748 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader, all day everyday.

#4 Posted by protectyournose (908 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

Vader.

#5 Posted by MagnificentStorm (1388 posts) - - Show Bio

Do ppl really hate Storm that much just because of the Storm fanatics that's horrible.

The ACTUALLY WINNER OF COURSE IS

STORM BOOM.

#6 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

vader force chokes her

#7 Posted by JediXMan (29679 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader.

#8 Posted by Israphael (350 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm because lightning.

#9 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@Israphael said:

Storm because lightning.

lol great explanation....
Back on topic...force choke FTW

#10 Posted by Batking200 (230 posts) - - Show Bio

The comment picture above me is hilarious.....vader wins

#11 Posted by Kingshark (172 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm's only real ability is lightning, for as far as I'm concerned. Well, Vader could probably handle that quite well. Even though it is his weakness, he isn't as fragile to it as Episode 6 made you believe.

Credit to this goes to someone who I don't even remember, lol, I just saved it, and then completely forgot who originally posted it.

Anyway - Here are various examples of Vader using Force Deflection/Absorption to redirect/stop blaster bolts.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139113-new_picture__117_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139134-new_picture__137_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139136-new_picture__139_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139137-new_picture__140_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139146-new_picture__149_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139148-new_picture__151_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139152-new_picture__155_.jpg

He should be able to do the same to lightning.

#12 Posted by Israphael (350 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm can hit him with lightning and messes up his respirator leaving him unable to talk and, therefore, ruining the plot.

#13 Posted by CrazyBuffalo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

@Israphael said:

Storm can hit him with lightning and messes up his respirator leaving him unable to talk and, therefore, ruining the plot.

Vader can easily block most energy based projectiles, as shown in all the scans posted by Kingshark, as well as in Empire when he deflects Han's blaster bolt with his hand. Blocking Storm's lightning shouldn't be too hard. Also, Vader could Force choke Storm before she even reacted.

#14 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4927 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader force chokes her to death.

#15 Posted by MagnificentStorm (1388 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingshark said:

Storm's only real ability is lightning, for as far as I'm concerned. Well, Vader could probably handle that quite well. Even though it is his weakness, he isn't as fragile to it as Episode 6 made you believe.

Credit to this goes to someone who I don't even remember, lol, I just saved it, and then completely forgot who originally posted it.

Anyway - Here are various examples of Vader using Force Deflection/Absorption to redirect/stop blaster bolts.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139113-new_picture__117_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139134-new_picture__137_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139136-new_picture__139_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139137-new_picture__140_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139146-new_picture__149_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139148-new_picture__151_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139152-new_picture__155_.jpg

He should be able to do the same to lightning.

Well thats a lie because Storm can do MUCH more than just summon some lightning. She could easily flash freeze him or if she wanted to take all the air from his lungs. Also i dont believe that force lightning is on par with Storms lightning so yea.

#16 Edited by nick_hero22 (6753 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm due to her high degree of weather manipulation, what's stopping her from calling down a severe lighting storm. Darth Vader is fast, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that he could dodge multiple lighting strikes in rapid successions.

#17 Posted by Grim_Hunter (23 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm.

@Kingshark

Those examples are basically useless here. Those energy blasts are nothing compared to what Storm can do.... Even on an off day. The woman can crack concrete, literally drill a lightning bolt all the way to the center of the Earth, as well as destroyed the X-men X-jet. If you can find some better scans that show Vader blocking energy that is on par with what Storm generate then we can say that her lightning is off the table.

@CrazyBuffalo said:

@Israphael said:

Storm can hit him with lightning and messes up his respirator leaving him unable to talk and, therefore, ruining the plot.

Vader can easily block most energy based projectiles,

, as well as in Empire when he deflects Han's blaster bolt with his hand. Blocking Storm's lightning shouldn't be too hard.

Also, Vader could Force choke Storm before she even reacted.

Negative.

If it's anything like the scans Kingshark posted it's not even worth mentioning.

That has yet to be seen.

And Storm could generate a crushing pressure around Vader literally making him the size of a baseball.

#18 Posted by XMen1963 (484 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

Storm due to her high degree of weather manipulation, what's stopping her from calling down a severe lighting storm. Darth Vader is fast, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that he could dodge multiple lighting strikes in rapid successions.

#19 Posted by gingerpenny (947 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think it would be easy for Vader but he would still win

#20 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingshark said:

Storm's only real ability is lightning, for as far as I'm concerned. Well, Vader could probably handle that quite well. Even though it is his weakness, he isn't as fragile to it as Episode 6 made you believe.

Credit to this goes to someone who I don't even remember, lol, I just saved it, and then completely forgot who originally posted it.

Anyway - Here are various examples of Vader using Force Deflection/Absorption to redirect/stop blaster bolts.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139113-new_picture__117_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139134-new_picture__137_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139136-new_picture__139_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139137-new_picture__140_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139146-new_picture__149_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139148-new_picture__151_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139152-new_picture__155_.jpg

He should be able to do the same to lightning.

If you believe that lighting is the only ability she has, then you are wrong. I really don't care about Vader absorbing or deflecting blaster bolts, because they are nothing in comparison to Ororo's power.

For that matter, Storm is also very gifted at absorption and deflection, since she is a lightning powerhouse, in addition to having every other power within an atmosphere (and then some).

#21 Posted by TheVoiceOfReason (747 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader

#22 Posted by Roddy010 (5159 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm for obvious reasons..

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#23 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

Darth Vader

#24 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm imo but it would be close.

#25 Edited by Immortal777 (6986 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader easily force chokes her a$$

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#26 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10083 posts) - - Show Bio

@White Mage said:

@Kingshark said:

Storm's only real ability is lightning, for as far as I'm concerned. Well, Vader could probably handle that quite well. Even though it is his weakness, he isn't as fragile to it as Episode 6 made you believe.

Credit to this goes to someone who I don't even remember, lol, I just saved it, and then completely forgot who originally posted it.

Anyway - Here are various examples of Vader using Force Deflection/Absorption to redirect/stop blaster bolts.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139113-new_picture__117_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139134-new_picture__137_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139136-new_picture__139_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139137-new_picture__140_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139146-new_picture__149_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139148-new_picture__151_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139152-new_picture__155_.jpg

He should be able to do the same to lightning.

If you believe that lighting is the only ability she has, then you are wrong. I really don't care about Vader absorbing or deflecting blaster bolts, because they are nothing in comparison to Ororo's power.

For that matter, Storm is also very gifted at absorption and deflection, since she is a lightning powerhouse, in addition to having every other power within an atmosphere (and then some).

Agreed. If the best argument that can be made is "Vader can force choke her" I don't see him winning.

#27 Posted by WoopDangWoobla15 (10 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader. He may be able to block the lightning with his saber. She can't blind him because he can sense her presence with the force so he doesn't need sight. Forgive me for I know very little about Storm.

#28 Posted by samuel_larson_10 (283 posts) - - Show Bio

depends, vader before being nearly cremated has more force power than basically anyone in the starwars univers (or so I've heard) other people in the starwars universe have destroyed stars with the force so I think if this is pre-obiwan vader he possess more raw power, speed, agility, and could easily kill her

#29 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

@WoopDangWoobla15 said:

Vader. He may be able to block the lightning with his saber. She can't blind him because he can sense her presence with the force so he doesn't need sight. Forgive me for I know very little about Storm.

This isn't a lightning only battle though. Storm manipulates air pressure like a boss. She can also counter telekinesis and other forms of energy with nothing but her winds (force against force). And, she too has the ability to use her powers to attack a body from within.

#30 Posted by AssertingValor (5382 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Infinity">>>>>>>>>>toad> storm

#31 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2780 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader wins easily..whats stopping him from crushing her windpipe in an instant of this fight starting...Vader FTW

#32 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm wins here.

#33 Posted by CrazyBuffalo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

@White Mage:

Vader can choke her in a split second. Storm cannot "activate" her powers as quickly as he can. I have no doubt that Storm could overwhelm Vader with lightning and air pressure attacks, but she cannot do that as fast as her mind can think it. Vader can. One aspect people tend to forget about Force users, is that many (not all) Force powers require no "casting" or "summoning". It is instant. Force Choke is one of those powers.

#34 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

@CrazyBuffalo said:

@White Mage:

Vader can choke her in a split second. Storm cannot "activate" her powers as quickly as he can. I have no doubt that Storm could overwhelm Vader with lightning and air pressure attacks, but she cannot do that as fast as her mind can think it. Vader can. One aspect people tend to forget about Force users, is that many (not all) Force powers require no "casting" or "summoning". It is instant. Force Choke is one of those powers.

At least 16 years worth of Uncanny X-Men disagrees with your stance, because she has done exactly that. She's battled telekinetics before....He'll need more than a force choke.

#35 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19968 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader wins for reasons stated above.

#36 Posted by CrazyBuffalo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

@White Mage:

I personally have never seen it. If she has, then I will re-assess my vote. Does anyone have any scans of this? I've read my fair share of X-comics, and whenever Storm does anything big, it seems like she always has to hover and summon winds and whatnot for at least a few moments.

#37 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4927 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader has no problems with being ruthless an killing. Storm isn't ready for what Vader will bring to the table.

#38 Posted by Skaddix (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm can be ruthless when she is in the mood. I mean she did cut out poor Marrow's Heart.

#39 Edited by Kingshark (172 posts) - - Show Bio

As I see no one else is making good arguments in favor of Vader, I will.

MOVIE VADER:

Darth Vader effortlessly stops Han Solo's lasers with one hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX4qMYqXxrY

Darth Vader force chokes Admiral Ozzel across space moving at light speed, showing excellent accuracy and awareness..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O1Qd_FNgfM

Remember that movie Vader is often labelled as being nothing but a slow, clumsy cyborg with moderate TK powers. Well, for someone who is that, those feats are quite impressive, wouldn't we say?

Unfortunately, whenever someone creates a Star Wars battle people instantaneously think of the movie characters, even though all of them are much weaker than their EU counterparts, and then compare them to Marvel comic characters. Why? That's just unfair IMO.

EU VADER

These are scans from again, Mr. Unknown. Sadly I cannot give credit to the one who owes these pictures as I forgot where I got them from. lol, anyway:

Examples of Vader pushing through vaulted doors.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139210-new_picture__106_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632909-new_picture__0_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632910-new_picture__1_.jpg

Yoda had a lot of trouble lifting the V-Wing in Episode 6 ROTJ, well here Vader throws a V-Wing like a marble.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139115-new_picture__119_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139116-new_picture__120_.jpg

Vader destroys a cathedral.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139131-new_picture__134_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139132-new_picture__135_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139133-new_picture__136_.jpg

He pushes a person across an entire alleyway.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139139-new_picture__142_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139140-new_picture__143_.jpg

Vader hurls several beasts.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139142-new_picture__145_.jpg

Vader collapses and demolished a huge structure.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139151-new_picture__154_.jpg

Telepathy/Empathy:

Vader twists Boba's mind.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139135-new_picture__138_.jpg

Vader probes an enemy's mind.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139263-new_picture__179_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139264-new_picture__180_.jpg

Force Deflection/Absorption:

Various examples of Vader using Force Deflection/Absorption to redirect/stop blaster bolts.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139113-new_picture__117_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139134-new_picture__137_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139136-new_picture__139_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139137-new_picture__140_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139146-new_picture__149_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139148-new_picture__151_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139152-new_picture__155_.jpg

Vader seems to control the winds to blind enemy snipers.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139208-new_picture__104_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139209-new_picture__105_.jpg

Vader mentally controls a huge wild beast with his mind games he can play.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632937-new_picture__28_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632938-new_picture__29_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632939-new_picture__30_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632940-new_picture__31_.jpg

Force Jump/Protection/Rage/Speed:

Since I know people love taking shots at Vader's maneuverability, here are some examples of him showing decent jumping distance.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139211-new_picture__107_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139212-new_picture__108_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139119-new_picture__123_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139120-new_picture__124_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139150-new_picture__153_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139152-new_picture__155_.jpg

How strong are Storm's attacks anyway? Various examples of Vader withstanding explosions (as a result of his armor and the Force).

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139108-new_picture__113_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139109-new_picture__114_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139110-new_picture__115_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139128-new_picture__131_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139129-new_picture__132_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139130-new_picture__133_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139262-new_picture__178_.jpg

Vader withstands flamethrowers.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139122-new_picture__126_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139124-new_picture__127_.jpg

Vader tears a steel door off a ship.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139117-new_picture__121_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139118-new_picture__122_.jpg

Vader breaks his restraints and crumbles a column.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139125-new_picture__128_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139126-new_picture__129_.jpg

Vader breaks through a net.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632923-new_picture__14_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1632924-new_picture__15_.jpg

He moves his lightsaber fast enough to generate afterimages/afterglows of his blade.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139207-new_picture__103_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139214-new_picture__110_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139121-new_picture__125_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139149-new_picture__152_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139159-new_picture__162_.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/2139160-new_picture__163_.jpg

Even more of a scary truth is, in Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader he was able to defeat an army of Jedi's by himself with ease.

#40 Edited by THUNDERBOLT30 (10083 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

said:

Vader has no problems with being ruthless an killing. Storm isn't ready for what Vader will bring to the table.

I'm not familiar with the comic verse version of Vader so I can't state yet for sure who I think would win. People wanting and trying to kill her is nothing new to Storm. Since this to the death she will no compunction about killing him here as well.

@CrazyBuffalo said:

@White Mage:

I personally have never seen it. If she has, then I will re-assess my vote. Does anyone have any scans of this? I've read my fair share of X-comics, and whenever Storm does anything big, it seems like she always has to hover and summon winds and whatnot for at least a few moments.

It depends on what she is trying to do but she has shown very impressive reaction time with her powers, and has created effects in the time it takes to blink (i.e. - tornadoes, flash freeze, altering air pressure in the inner ear, removing air from lungs, summoning massive lightning bolts, etc.). She has a feats thread on her forum page that shows a lot of this. For large scale or unnatural applications of her powers, those type of attacks can take time.

Flash freezing Colossus in the "literal blink of an eye"

Instantly doubles the air pressure in a building to blow it up before the guy can pull the trigger.

Blocks Cyclop's eye blasts at point blank range with a sky lightning bolt. Also countered it again at point blank range with wind force.

There is more but these are just a few examples that she can summon her powers pretty much instantly.

EDITED

#41 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

The only tk I have seen her handle was Jean during a training session. Phoenix Jean trapped Storm with a tk grip fairly easily.

#42 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30: What other telekinetics besides Jean has Storm fought? I know she fought Rachel but she was using tp i believe.

#43 Posted by nickthedevil (11662 posts) - - Show Bio

Darth Vader in a stomp.

#44 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10083 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy said:

@THUNDERBOLT30: What other telekinetics besides Jean has Storm fought? I know she fought Rachel but she was using tp i believe.

She fought Candra and countered her TK.

#45 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30: Thank you. I forgot about that. It was an X-men unlimited issue correct?

#46 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3879 posts) - - Show Bio

Are some of you storm fans serious? Storm is going to get STOMPED

#47 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10083 posts) - - Show Bio

@charlieboy: Yes sir :-). X-Men Unilimited #7.

#48 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30: Thanks. I will dig that out of my comic collection when I have the chance. I am pretty sure I have that one.

#49 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10083 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't cast a vote on who wins actually since I am not famiiar enough with comic-verse Vader. Happy to be enlightened on what he can do, but if the best attack is a "force choke", then I don't see him winning. I'm assuming there is more he can do here and why some believe Vader would stomp. The scans so far are not that impressive, and one of them (namely the one of him being hurt by the electric net) could be an advantage for Storm here.

#50 Posted by tomlikesfries (4627 posts) - - Show Bio

@N0tS0An0nym0us said:

LMAO. Anyway, Vader wins.