Darth Vader (Star Wars) vsDeva Path Pain (Naruto) They are both at full power and bloodlusted. They fight in an large rocky area. Round 1: speed equal Round 2: speed is not equal but Vader gets help by Luke.
@katanalauncher: You sure you know who the other dued? I mean Vader has a fair chance at speed equal but the other round they just get beat the shit out of them.
@katanalauncher: You sure you know who the other dued? I mean Vader has a fair chance at speed equal but the other round they just get beat the shit out of them.
@katanalauncher: You talking about jedi mind trick?, i don't think it will work on pain, and also he is too fast even if it could work.
He is not faster than the speed of thought(Vader have FTL reaction speed), in addition to mindrape Vader can also force choke him to death, or just telekineticly rip his spine out, or just simply slice him in half with a saber.
@katanalauncher: You talking about jedi mind trick?, i don't think it will work on pain, and also he is too fast even if it could work.
He is not faster than the speed of thought(Vader have FTL reaction speed), in addition to mindrape Vader can also force choke him to death, or just telekineticly rip his spine out, or just simply slice him in half with a saber.
@katanalauncher: He won't tag him with saber, mind trick won't work on an lifeless corpse, And you do realise taht Pain has something like force? , just that his force is city busting. He could counter choke,push,pull or any other form of force.
@katanalauncher: You talking about jedi mind trick?, i don't think it will work on pain, and also he is too fast even if it could work.
He is not faster than the speed of thought(Vader have FTL reaction speed), in addition to mindrape Vader can also force choke him to death, or just telekineticly rip his spine out, or just simply slice him in half with a saber.
Troll.
Even a low level force user can react to light speed attack with their pre-cog, Vader can predict an attack before it happens doesn't mean he and react in time. But pain is not nearly fast enough to give vader problem.
@katanalauncher: You talking about jedi mind trick?, i don't think it will work on pain, and also he is too fast even if it could work.
He is not faster than the speed of thought(Vader have FTL reaction speed), in addition to mindrape Vader can also force choke him to death, or just telekineticly rip his spine out, or just simply slice him in half with a saber.
Troll.
Even a low level force user can react to light speed attack with their pre-cog, Vader can predict an attack before it happens doesn't mean he and react in time. But pain is not nearly fast enough to give vader problem.
when has any force user actually reacted to something faster than light? given that blaster bolts are slower than bullets. and low level force users have trouble with blaster bolts.
Anime/manga vs comic threads are still banned, correct? In which case, could someone just flag this? I have been unable to flag anything for months.
@katanalauncher said:
Even a low level force user can react to light speed attack with their pre-cog,
...What are you talking about?
@Thor's hammmer said:
when has any force user actually reacted to something faster than light? given that blaster bolts are slower than bullets. and low level force users have trouble with blaster bolts.
What makes you think blaster bolts are slower than bullets? And to my knowledge, no one has reacted to anything FTL, but relativistic reaction time has been shown by a few.
Anime/manga vs comic threads are still banned, correct? In which case, could someone just flag this? I have been unable to flag anything for months.
@katanalauncher said:
Even a low level force user can react to light speed attack with their pre-cog,
...What are you talking about?
@Thor's hammmer said:
when has any force user actually reacted to something faster than light? given that blaster bolts are slower than bullets. and low level force users have trouble with blaster bolts.
What makes you think blaster bolts are slower than bullets? And to my knowledge, no one has reacted to anything FTL, but relativistic reaction time has been shown by a few.
I belive one of the Star wars books that gives information on many things from the Star wars verse (i`m sorry I don`t own the book I can`t remeber what it`s exact title is) BBt if i remeber correctly the speed it gives for blaster bolts is slower than the speed of real life firearms.
I belive one of the Star wars books that gives information on many things from the Star wars verse (i`m sorry I don`t own the book I can`t remeber what it`s exact title is) BBt if i remeber correctly the speed it gives for blaster bolts is slower than the speed of real life firearms.
Not the answer I was hoping for, and I have seen evidence to the contrary. But alright.
I belive one of the Star wars books that gives information on many things from the Star wars verse (i`m sorry I don`t own the book I can`t remeber what it`s exact title is) BBt if i remeber correctly the speed it gives for blaster bolts is slower than the speed of real life firearms.
Not the answer I was hoping for, and I have seen evidence to the contrary. But alright.
I belive one of the Star wars books that gives information on many things from the Star wars verse (i`m sorry I don`t own the book I can`t remeber what it`s exact title is) BBt if i remeber correctly the speed it gives for blaster bolts is slower than the speed of real life firearms.
Not the answer I was hoping for, and I have seen evidence to the contrary. But alright.
like what evidence?
Certain blaster bolts requiring a character to react at the speed of thought to deflect them, examples where blaster bolts have been displayed as far beyond the speed of sound, and the fact that the visible "laser" you see from a blaster is only a residual stream that moves slower than the actual blast itself, among other things.
I belive one of the Star wars books that gives information on many things from the Star wars verse (i`m sorry I don`t own the book I can`t remeber what it`s exact title is) BBt if i remeber correctly the speed it gives for blaster bolts is slower than the speed of real life firearms.
Not the answer I was hoping for, and I have seen evidence to the contrary. But alright.
like what evidence?
Certain blaster bolts requiring a character to react at the speed of thought to deflect them, examples where blaster bolts have been displayed as far beyond the speed of sound, and the fact that the visible "laser" you see from a blaster is only a residual stream that moves slower than the actual blast itself, among other things.
Bullets move faster than people think. so what? some Bullets musel Velocity surpasses the speed of sound. so what? Has if ever been stated that is actually a ``laser`` that follows the bolt? cause it just seems like the light thrown from tracer rounds to me. which move the smae speed as regular bullets.
It can vary from person to person, and from research I have done on the subject, it has never been exactly measured. But tests to record its speed have extended upward of several Mach velocities.
Although, a correction on my part: some lower tests of the speed of thought have ranged below the speed of sound. So I can grant you that.
I ment that Tracer rounds move at the smae speed as regular bullets.
Not really sure what you are trying to get at here.
It can vary from person to person, and from research I have done on the subject, it has never been exactly measured. But tests to record its speed have extended upward of several Mach velocities.
Although, a correction on my part: some lower tests of the speed of thought have ranged below the speed of sound. So I can grant you that.
I ment that Tracer rounds move at the smae speed as regular bullets.
Not really sure what you are trying to get at here.
never mind the second part I was talking about how tracer rounds leave a similar trail to Blaster Bolts and move at the same speed as regular bullets.
If any of you knew what pain did/can do... the answer would be obvious... Pain is a city buster.
Big deal, he cant bust a city if Darth Vader crushes his throat first with the force. The Force is on a higher level than Pain's outdated Chakra powers. Darth Vader can cast his abilities instantly, it takes Pain a good five seconds to get going.
: How can you crush a throat of a person who is already dead? and I don't think vader would have the chance to do that.. chances are... his head comes off before he completes his heavy breathing pattern. have you seen what pain he can do? he's also agile and 200x faster than vader..
: How can you crush a throat of a person who is already dead? and I don't think vader would have the chance to do that.. chances are... his head comes off before he completes his heavy breathing pattern. have you seen what pain he can do? he's also agile and 200x faster than vader..
Edit: And about the force being more powerful...
nuff said.. :)
The charge time is too long on that attack, Vader would just force crush him before he even thought about pulling that mass destruction stuff on him. He's no match for Vader, jedis are simply too skilled and advanced to be beaten by the uncivilized ninjas in the narutoverse. Look at their weapons, Vader yields a blade of light while Pain is confined to those weak kunais.
The charge time is too long on that attack, Vader would just force crush him before he even thought about pulling that mass destruction stuff on him. He's no match for Vader, jedis are simply too skilled and advanced to be beaten by the uncivilized ninjas in the narutoverse. Look at their weapons, Vader yields a blade of light while Pain is confined to those weak kunais.
this is flawed and bias logic
to address your claim that it takes along time to charge an attack, Pain needs longer times to charge up stronger attacks, of course he needs a few seconds to take down A WHOLE CITY but just like vader, he can push or pull humans simply by raising a hand
second ninjas in the narutoverse are just as skilled as jedi, to claim that one is more or less skilled would be impossible, you have to go by feats shown, not who you think is better trained
advanced tech means nothing,all vader has in this battle is a lightsaber, that's hardly giving him an edge, pain could easily banish it away, or dodge vader's slow thrusts
The charge time is too long on that attack, Vader would just force crush him before he even thought about pulling that mass destruction stuff on him. He's no match for Vader, jedis are simply too skilled and advanced to be beaten by the uncivilized ninjas in the narutoverse. Look at their weapons, Vader yields a blade of light while Pain is confined to those weak kunais.
this is flawed and bias logic to address your claim that it takes along time to charge an attack, Pain needs longer times to charge up stronger attacks, of course he needs a few seconds to take down A WHOLE CITY but just like vader, he can push or pull humans simply by raising a hand second ninjas in the narutoverse are just as skilled as jedi, to claim that one is more or less skilled would be impossible, you have to go by feats shown, not who you think is better trained advanced tech means nothing,all vader has in this battle is a lightsaber, that's hardly giving him an edge, pain could easily banish it away, or dodge vader's slow thrusts
Vader can paralyze Pain's body with the force with his mind, while Pain requires hand gestures to do his attacks. Then Vader will just reel him in with the force and slice him to ribbons with a blade so cutting edge that all six paths of Pain will feel the burn. I don't care how many ninjas Pain killed, he never fought a Jedi and the Force is on a higher level than Naruto's primitive techniques.
Vader can paralyze Pain's body with the force with his mind, while Pain requires hand gestures to do his attacks. Then Vader will just reel him in with the force and slice him to ribbons with a blade so cutting edge that all six paths of Pain will feel the burn. I don't care how many ninjas Pain killed, he never fought a Jedi and the Force is on a higher level than Naruto's primitive techniques.
or Pain can use his push to crush vader's suit, thus destroying his life support systems, killing him, just as vader can reel Pain in, Pain can real vader in and impale him with a sword. Pain has fought people MUCH tougher than vader, including a six tails naruto, the only thing that the jedi have that's on a higher level is their tech like space ships, which vader doesnt have in the battle, a lightsaber is just a hot sword, pain deals with demons, varies jutsu and people who move A LOT faster than the slow vader
Sorry but I'm not subscribing to the pain hype. The speed of Vader's thoughts is quicker than Pain's hand gestures and "charge times". Pain is up against a machine that is just too strong here.
he's not up against a machine, he's up a guy in a metal suit that doubles as a life support system, and pain doesnt have charge times, he lifts his hand and things get pushed
Pain is
-faster than vader
-his almighty push and pull is stronger than vader's force
-he's more durable than vader (he's been pummeled into the ground by giant boulders, has been crushed under stones, took direct blows by a six tailed naruto, i think he can handle a "force choke"
watch just the first 3 minutes of this video and you'll see what i mean
Lol,you know the main event of this thread is the speed equal round,i mean in the speed is not equal rond it doesn't mater if there are 1 or 1000 vaders,they will just get crushed by a full power shinra tensei.But i think that vader has a fair cance of winning in the speed equal round.
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