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#1 Edited by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio

Discuss.
 
 
Vader is reconstructed in plastic INCLUDING his light saber

#2 Posted by Porlos (1021 posts) - - Show Bio

Darth Vader is made of metal and Magneto is the master of magnetism.  How do you think this will go?

#3 Posted by Psyker star (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

You do know that Darth Vader is half Cyborg thus made of metal right?

#4 Posted by GrayWolf (206 posts) - - Show Bio

Porlos already took my argument.
#5 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Sigh... Magneto pulls him apart with a single thought.

#6 Posted by Power NeXus (9899 posts) - - Show Bio

thia has been done before 
 
use the search function please

#7 Posted by Hellos (8898 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz said:
"okay lets say vader was re-constructed in all plastic. NOW discuss "

Vader struggles to move his lightsaber which Mag's wrips from his hand and slashes him to pieces with.
#8 Posted by Psyker star (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto's helmet should stop any Force Telepathy and he could always take the lightsaber away from Vader so Magneto would win but how easy it is depends on where they are fighting.

#9 Posted by adrwww (13 posts) - - Show Bio

well lets say that magneto is in vaders world, and his powers are weak because of the time travel he just underwent.  NOW vader can use his lightsaber  and his crazy ass force on magneto.

#10 Posted by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio
@Psyker star said:
" Magneto's helmet should stop any Force Telepathy and he could always take the lightsaber away from Vader so Magneto would win but how easy it is depends on where they are fighting. "
 the force =\= telepathy 
 vader would be able to hold onto his lightsaber
#11 Posted by Hellos (8898 posts) - - Show Bio
@adrwww said:
"well lets say that magneto is in vaders world, and his powers are weak because of the time travel he just underwent.  NOW vader can use his lightsaber  and his crazy ass force on magneto. "

Vader's in a galaxy far far away, not in another time frame. :P 
Mag's uses his force field and rolls over Vader with it. Sorta like a hamster ball style fighting pew pew.
#12 Posted by Psyker star (3492 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz said:
" @Psyker star said:
" Magneto's helmet should stop any Force Telepathy and he could always take the lightsaber away from Vader so Magneto would win but how easy it is depends on where they are fighting. "
 the force =\= telepathy   vader would be able to hold onto his lightsaber "
I thought about that the Force is not really Telepathy your right but i would still say the Helmet helps and Magneto is not weak minded so it would take a lot to break him with the force.
#13 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio

oh boy....

#14 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio
@adrwww said:
" well lets say that magneto is in vaders world, and his powers are weak because of the time travel he just underwent.  NOW vader can use his lightsaber  and his crazy ass force on magneto. "
Did you just try to hijack the thread?
#15 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz: 
 
look bro -_- do you know anything about DV???
 
he is part metal!
 
mags curbstomp
#16 Posted by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio
@Psyker star said:
" @jimmangz said:
" @Psyker star said:
" Magneto's helmet should stop any Force Telepathy and he could always take the lightsaber away from Vader so Magneto would win but how easy it is depends on where they are fighting. "
 the force =\= telepathy   vader would be able to hold onto his lightsaber "
I thought about that the Force is not really Telepathy your right but i would still say the Helmet helps and Magneto is not weak minded so it would take a lot to break him with the force. "
i dont think magnetos helm can save him from a entity like the FORCE. its basically a physical energy being thrown at you.  magnetism vs a physical force. 
#18 Posted by adrwww (13 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut: no FOOL.  Go back to your DOTA game so us real men can talk.
#19 Posted by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by Psyker star (3492 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz: 
You are underestimating Magneto he goes deeper than just lifting stuff
#21 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio
@adrwww:
 
Put the crack pipe down, and step away from the keyboard immediately. The first step is admitting you have a problem.
#22 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @adrwww:  Put the crack pipe down, and step away from the keyboard immediately. The first step is admitting you have a problem. "

lmao
#23 Posted by adrwww (13 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut:  I would but yo mama is hoggin the pipe.
#24 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio
@adrwww said:
" @Lance Uppercut:  I would but yo mama is hoggin the pipe. "
Is that your best shot? Are you f***ing five?
#25 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@adrwww said:
" @Lance Uppercut:  I would but yo mama is hoggin the pipe. "
lol FAILURE XD
 
yo mama jokes???????? ROFLMFAO
 
OMFG thats FUNNY XD
#26 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz said:
" @FLCL1 said:
" @jimmangz:   look bro -_- do you know anything about DV???  he is part metal!  mags curbstomp "
@Korg said:
" http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/darth-vader-vs-magneto/26701/     "
 read above^^ i said he has been reconstructed in plastic  thanks for the link but this is entirely different. darth vader in this scenario is made of plastic. "
if his body is plastic he dies immediately
#27 Posted by Reactor (2298 posts) - - Show Bio

Darth Vader is a cyborg... Magneto's powers revolve around magnetism... Vader's at an instant and irredeemable disadvantage.

#28 Posted by JediXMan (29296 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader gets crushed in his own armor. Magneto wins, easy.

#29 Posted by Ziro (1352 posts) - - Show Bio

Oy.
#30 Posted by joshmightbe (24474 posts) - - Show Bio

people really dont read those ops

#31 Edited by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Does plastic even contain midi-chlorians?

#32 Posted by Reactor (2298 posts) - - Show Bio

  @joshmightbe said:

" people really dont read those ops "

Magnetic force affects all matter, as virtually all matter is magnetic to one degree or another. Some, such as iron, are especially magnetic, and thus, we tend to collectively name elements that are particularly sensitive to magnetic fields as 'magnetic' (usually metal). But all matter in the universe is influenced by magnetism.
 
In other words, plastic or metal, Vader's gets screwed over.
#33 Posted by JediXMan (29296 posts) - - Show Bio

I@joshmightbe said:

" people really dont read those ops "
.... crap. I need to start looking at the first post.... 
 
Well, it's possible for Vader to win. He could throw his Lightsaber at Magneto. Though Magneto could block it.
 
Depends.
#34 Posted by Ultimate Joker (802 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, there seems to be a lot of people that know nothing beyond the miniscule feats these two performed in the movies. And people, Magneto controls MORE than just metal. EM forcefields, EMP blasts, controlling the electromagnetic fields within people even down to the subatomic level, ability to manipulate and generate electricity, control the bio-electrical impulses in a person's brain, and much more. Magneto's helmet, by the way, DOES NOT shield him from psychics. It's his strong will power so I really don't see mind tricks and such working on him anyway. Magneto could still screw up the suit, but Vader is going to sense Magneto's power and react accordingly, by the way. I'm thinking Vader might be able to reverse the offensive magnetic powers Magneto's got, but I'm really just guessing.
 
Good God some of the people in here keep saying things like, "lol, if there's metal 'round magno wins!" and such... Grates on my nerves. Also, to the OP; is this the movie version of Vader or the EU (Expanded Universe, e.g. non-canon comic book) one? If it's the movie version he dies very quickly and very painfully. The EU version, however, I'm not at all too knowledgeable about.

#35 Posted by mattbryce2000 (1162 posts) - - Show Bio

magneto rips the iron from DV's blood and wins.
#36 Posted by Lupine (750 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ultimate Joker said:
" Man, there seems to be a lot of people that know nothing beyond the miniscule feats these two performed in the movies. And people, Magneto controls MORE than just metal. EM forcefields, EMP blasts, controlling the electromagnetic fields within people even down to the subatomic level, ability to manipulate and generate electricity, control the bio-electrical impulses in a person's brain, and much more. Magneto's helmet, by the way, DOES NOT shield him from psychics. It's his strong will power so I really don't see mind tricks and such working on him anyway. Magneto could still screw up the suit, but Vader is going to sense Magneto's power and react accordingly, by the way. I'm thinking Vader might be able to reverse the offensive magnetic powers Magneto's got, but I'm really just guessing. Good God some of the people in here keep saying things like, "lol, if there's metal 'round magno wins!" and such... Grates on my nerves. Also, to the OP; is this the movie version of Vader or the EU (Expanded Universe, e.g. non-canon comic book) one? If it's the movie version he dies very quickly and very painfully. The EU version, however, I'm not at all too knowledgeable about. "
 

Nicely Said Good Sir! 
#37 Posted by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ultimate Joker said:
" Man, there seems to be a lot of people that know nothing beyond the miniscule feats these two performed in the movies. And people, Magneto controls MORE than jut ust metal. EM forcefields, EMP blasts, controlling the electromagnetic fields within people even down to the subatomic level, ability to manipulate and generate electricity, control the bio-electrical impulses in a person's brain, and much more. Magneto's helmet, by the way, DOES NOT shield him from psychics. It's his strong will power so I really don't see mind tricks and such working on him anyway. Magneto could still screw up the suit, but Vader is going to sense Magneto's power and react accordingly, by the way. I'm thinking Vader might be able to reverse the offensive magnetic powers Magneto's got, but I'm really just guessing. Good God some of the people in here keep saying things like, "lol, if there's metal 'round magno wins!" and such... Grates on my nerves. Also, to the OP; is this the movie version of Vader or the EU (Expanded Universe, e.g. non-canon comic book) one? If it's the movie version he dies very quickly and very painfully. The EU version, however, I'm not at all too knowledgeable about. "
well said, but you guys act like vader would just sit there and take a beating from magneto. Vader has force fields of his own and can block magnetos magetism within his own force field. I would think it would come down to who ever would be exhausted first. which is hard for me to say who that would be
#38 Edited by Ultimate Joker (802 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz said:

" @Ultimate Joker said:

" Man, there seems to be a lot of people that know nothing beyond the miniscule feats these two performed in the movies. And people, Magneto controls MORE than jut ust metal. EM forcefields, EMP blasts, controlling the electromagnetic fields within people even down to the subatomic level, ability to manipulate and generate electricity, control the bio-electrical impulses in a person's brain, and much more. Magneto's helmet, by the way, DOES NOT shield him from psychics. It's his strong will power so I really don't see mind tricks and such working on him anyway. Magneto could still screw up the suit, but Vader is going to sense Magneto's power and react accordingly, by the way. I'm thinking Vader might be able to reverse the offensive magnetic powers Magneto's got, but I'm really just guessing. Good God some of the people in here keep saying things like, "lol, if there's metal 'round magno wins!" and such... Grates on my nerves. Also, to the OP; is this the movie version of Vader or the EU (Expanded Universe, e.g. non-canon comic book) one? If it's the movie version he dies very quickly and very painfully. The EU version, however, I'm not at all too knowledgeable about. "
well said, but you guys act like vader would just sit there and take a beating from magneto. Vader has force fields of his own and can block magnetos magetism within his own force field. I would think it would come down to who ever would be exhausted first. which is hard for me to say who that would be "
Exactly what I was theorizing in my post you quoted. People clearly don't know what either man is capable of and are basing it off of the movies. It's annoying how horrible misinformation can spread.
#39 Posted by Lupine (750 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz said:
" @Ultimate Joker said:
" Man, there seems to be a lot of people that know nothing beyond the miniscule feats these two performed in the movies. And people, Magneto controls MORE than jut ust metal. EM forcefields, EMP blasts, controlling the electromagnetic fields within people even down to the subatomic level, ability to manipulate and generate electricity, control the bio-electrical impulses in a person's brain, and much more. Magneto's helmet, by the way, DOES NOT shield him from psychics. It's his strong will power so I really don't see mind tricks and such working on him anyway. Magneto could still screw up the suit, but Vader is going to sense Magneto's power and react accordingly, by the way. I'm thinking Vader might be able to reverse the offensive magnetic powers Magneto's got, but I'm really just guessing. Good God some of the people in here keep saying things like, "lol, if there's metal 'round magno wins!" and such... Grates on my nerves. Also, to the OP; is this the movie version of Vader or the EU (Expanded Universe, e.g. non-canon comic book) one? If it's the movie version he dies very quickly and very painfully. The EU version, however, I'm not at all too knowledgeable about. "
well said, but you guys act like vader would just sit there and take a beating from magneto. Vader has force fields of his own and can block magnetos magetism within his own force field. I would think it would come down to who ever would be exhausted first. which is hard for me to say who that would be "
Actually it would depend on this shield of Vader's. I've never known him to have a shield, but then I have only seen the movies. But as for this shield it would completely and utterly depend on how it works. If it uses electricity or magnetism in any way, Mags might very well turn it against Vader. Likewise it depends on how a lightsaber works. And even how Vader's new plastic body works, after all Vader is still basically a cyborg. Even without metal, an EMP might destroy his life support systems. And we're not acting like anything. Magneto just has lots of ways he can use his powers and has the intellect to think of brand new usages on the spot. 
 
Vader's power list is a bit more defined and as such it means he's a bit more limited in a fight against someone like Mags. That's why there are a great many questions in regard to this fight.
#40 Posted by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio

You're@Lupine said:

" @jimmangz said:
" @Ultimate Joker said:
" Man, there seems to be a lot of people that know nothing beyond the miniscule feats these two performed in the movies. And people, Magneto controls MORE than jut ust metal. EM forcefields, EMP blasts, controlling the electromagnetic fields within people even down to the subatomic level, ability to manipulate and generate electricity, control the bio-electrical impulses in a person's brain, and much more. Magneto's helmet, by the way, DOES NOT shield him from psychics. It's his strong will power so I really don't see mind tricks and such working on him anyway. Magneto could still screw up the suit, but Vader is going to sense Magneto's power and react accordingly, by the way. I'm thinking Vader might be able to reverse the offensive magnetic powers Magneto's got, but I'm really just guessing. Good God some of the people in here keep saying things like, "lol, if there's metal 'round magno wins!" and such... Grates on my nerves. Also, to the OP; is this the movie version of Vader or the EU (Expanded Universe, e.g. non-canon comic book) one? If it's the movie version he dies very quickly and very painfully. The EU version, however, I'm not at all too knowledgeable about. "
well said, but you guys act like vader would just sit there and take a beating from magneto. Vader has force fields of his own and can block magnetos magetism within his own force field. I would think it would come down to who ever would be exhausted first. which is hard for me to say who that would be "
Actually it would depend on this shield of Vader's. I've never known him to have a shield, but then I have only seen the movies. But as for this shield it would completely and utterly depend on how it works. If it uses electricity or magnetism in any way, Mags might very well turn it against Vader. Likewise it depends on how a lightsaber works. And even how Vader's new plastic body works, after all Vader is still basically a cyborg. Even without metal, an EMP might destroy his life support systems. And we're not acting like anything. Magneto just has lots of ways he can use his powers and has the intellect to think of brand new usages on the spot.  Vader's power list is a bit more defined and as such it means he's a bit more limited in a fight against someone like Mags. That's why there are a great many questions in regard to this fight. "
If indeed the force has some magnetism to it, you are forgetting that vader is very powerful with the force and could POSSIBLY resist magnetos attempt to turn it on him. Sort of like a arm wrestling match. so its like i said i think it would come down to whoever is exhausted firsdt. and the fact that vader IS half robot, i would indeed think he would out last magneto in a battle of force vs magentism
#41 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ultimate Joker said:
" Man, there seems to be a lot of people that know nothing beyond the miniscule feats these two performed in the movies. And people, Magneto controls MORE than just metal. EM forcefields, EMP blasts, controlling the electromagnetic fields within people even down to the subatomic level, ability to manipulate and generate electricity, control the bio-electrical impulses in a person's brain, and much more. Magneto's helmet, by the way, DOES NOT shield him from psychics. It's his strong will power so I really don't see mind tricks and such working on him anyway. Magneto could still screw up the suit, but Vader is going to sense Magneto's power and react accordingly, by the way. I'm thinking Vader might be able to reverse the offensive magnetic powers Magneto's got, but I'm really just guessing. Good God some of the people in here keep saying things like, "lol, if there's metal 'round magno wins!" and such... Grates on my nerves. Also, to the OP; is this the movie version of Vader or the EU (Expanded Universe, e.g. non-canon comic book) one? If it's the movie version he dies very quickly and very painfully. The EU version, however, I'm not at all too knowledgeable about. "
EU is canon.
#42 Posted by Ultimate Joker (802 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy: Perhaps it is, but I'm still gonna ask the OP since it'll have an effect on this topic. ;-p
#43 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ultimate Joker said:
" @Baldy: Perhaps it is, but I'm still gonna ask the OP since it'll have an effect on this topic. ;-p "
I was just pointing out that it was canon as you had said otherwise.
#44 Posted by DeathDefyingDevil (722 posts) - - Show Bio

i think that darth vader would win

#45 Posted by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio

please elabortate =]

#46 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos said:
"@adrwww said:
"well lets say that magneto is in vaders world, and his powers are weak because of the time travel he just underwent.  NOW vader can use his lightsaber  and his crazy ass force on magneto. "
Vader's in a galaxy far far away, not in another time frame. :P Mag's uses his force field and rolls over Vader with it. Sorta like a hamster ball style fighting pew pew. "

While I agree with you that adrwww's post was not really well thought out, I will point out that you forgot about the "Long ago" portion of "Long ago in a galaxy far, far away..."
#47 Posted by comicbookguy (281 posts) - - Show Bio

magneto turns of the electrical impulses in his brain or rips the iron from his body or creates a black hole next to vader an even if we discounted those instant kills magneto force fields have withstood blasts from the phoenix vader has done some impressive stuff in the books an the like but nothing on that level none of the "mental" attacks would work as magneto as resisted some of the strongest telepaths on force of will alone. unfortunatly for vader the classic force choke doesnt cut it here
#48 Posted by Ultimate Joker (802 posts) - - Show Bio
@comicbookguy said:
" magneto turns of the electrical impulses in his brain or rips the iron from his body or creates a black hole next to vader an even if we discounted those instant kills magneto force fields have withstood blasts from the phoenix vader has done some impressive stuff in the books an the like but nothing on that level none of the "mental" attacks would work as magneto as resisted some of the strongest telepaths on force of will alone. unfortunatly for vader the classic force choke doesnt cut it here "
Wow... Um, where do I start? 
 
Toying with a force user's brain, especially one of such a level as Vader's sounds unlikely. A black hole? It was a wormhole, and if EU counts in this debate then we should look into what he can withstand before making statements like that. Vader could possibly shield himself from magnetic manipulation, so again, we need to see what Vader in the EU did before we claim victory for Magneto. 
 
"--withstood blasts from the Phoenix--" Okay, firstly, she was lower in power and it was Jean that was in control, hardly "The all powerful Phoenix force". That's exaggerating the feat by a bit. 
 
Force choke: Well I'd like to know aside from counter attacking how Magneto is supposed to stop an, essentially, magical attack from strangling him.
#49 Posted by jimmangz (45 posts) - - Show Bio

it IS the EU version, So feel free to elaborate more on that

#50 Posted by Ultimate Joker (802 posts) - - Show Bio
@jimmangz said:
" it IS the EU version, So feel free to elaborate more on that "
Well I'll be waiting for someone with better EU knowledge than I to give their opinions on the match. I'm a big fan of Magneto, but come on, we can't short sell Vader here especially since it's the EU version. I'll be watching this thread to see if anyone can give some feats for Vader.