Obviously Darth Vader does not need any introduction. But a number of people may not know who Darth Malgus is. He is one of the Sith Lords during the Old Republic Era, and is also featured in the upcoming BioWare mmo game. Star Wars: The Old Republic. Below are a few videos in which he is depicted.
Fight takes place in the ruins of the Jedi Temple and Vader just killed Malgus 'pet' Twi'lek in front of him.
Darth Vader Vs Darth Malgus
You know since my Buffy Vs Cap thread and Buffy Vs Drizzt threads got locked. lol
@Andy Steven Summers said:
@.Mistress Redhead.: I'm half tempted to make a Buffy universe person Vs a Star Wars character I know well. Just to see. You know since my Buffy Vs Cap thread and Buffy Vs Drizzt threads got locked. lol
Han shoots first.
@Andy Steven Summers said:
@.Mistress Redhead.: I'm half tempted to make a Buffy universe person Vs a Star Wars character I know well. Just to see. You know since my Buffy Vs Cap thread and Buffy Vs Drizzt threads got locked. lol
ha ha well if I don't know em I can't play lol, they only got locked cause of Buffy fan boys.. I actually think they are worse than Storm ones...
Over the last couple of months I would agree.I actually think they are worse than Storm ones...
@Final Arrow said:
Darn straight he did. lolHan shoots first.
@Andy Steven Summers: MR JUST DID THE BEST THING.
ME: HAN SHOOTS FIRST.
MR: "Yeah he did, then he later shot that guy with the swords." Realizes her mistake and looks at me.
ME "So telling Andy"
MR "There the same character kinda"
XD
vader all the wayAny thoughts on way? Just overall more powerful? More feats? Better feats?
Darth Malgus may win simply because he has mastered the use of force lightning and therefore has an undeniable power especially over a cyborg like Vader. The lightning would not only cripple his electrical systems but Vader's robotic body no longer has the ability to absorb or have any defense against it. Vader is a better swordsman but Darth Malgus has a clear advantage here.
Why cant they make a Star Wars movie like this?We can dream that one day they will. lol
@theicon: Technically he was not just any regular soldier. But I see what you are saying.
@buttersdaman000 said:KOTOR and maybe Force Unleashed movies must happen... at least KOTORWhy cant they make a Star Wars movie like this?We can dream that one day they will. lol
Well we know that it is 13 times larger than every single one of Bioware's past projects mashed together so its gonna be big we know that.@SpidermanWins: We can always hope that onece BioWare releases their mmo game The Old Republic. That it will be a huge success and spark something.
@SpidermanWins: I'm Beta testing it. I can concur it's great. lolooh lucky well I can't wait for it.
Is it for any consoles or just PC? I forgot.@SpidermanWins: Prre-Orders are being taken for the game if you are interested. People who pre-order will be given early access.
Has anyone actually read the TOR novels? I have not done so and will not be doing so for a while, and I would prefer not to base my judgment purely on the trailers and timelines. Using those as the only source material, Vader is ahead of Malgus in basically every category, but I have a feeling he may have more notable feats in the books.
@SpidermanWins said:
Vader can block the Lightning with his lightsaber or by using Force Deflection.Darth Malgus may win simply because he has mastered the use of force lightning and therefore has an undeniable power especially over a cyborg like Vader. The lightning would not only cripple his electrical systems but Vader's robotic body no longer has the ability to absorb or have any defense against it. Vader is a better swordsman but Darth Malgus has a clear advantage here.
@SpidermanWins said:
KOTOR and maybe Force Unleashed movies must happen... at least KOTORThere will be no more Star Wars movies. Lucas has already said that.
Has anyone actually read the TOR novels? I have not done so and will not be doing so for a while, and I would prefer not to base my judgment purely on the trailers and timelines. Using those as the only source material, Vader is ahead of Malgus in basically every category, but I have a feeling he may have more notable feats in the books.1. When has Vader ever shown the ability to do that? I'm not denying he may be able to do that but the first thing you said is contrary to many things said in Star Wars Lore. Vader has always been unable to defend himself against force lightning, otherwise he would have in many other instances. Force lightning is not a Han Solo blaster bolt my friend.
@SpidermanWins said:Vader can block the Lightning with his lightsaber or by using Force Deflection.Darth Malgus may win simply because he has mastered the use of force lightning and therefore has an undeniable power especially over a cyborg like Vader. The lightning would not only cripple his electrical systems but Vader's robotic body no longer has the ability to absorb or have any defense against it. Vader is a better swordsman but Darth Malgus has a clear advantage here.
@SpidermanWins said:KOTOR and maybe Force Unleashed movies must happen... at least KOTORThere will be no more Star Wars movies. Lucas has already said that.
2. I know, I know, but we can dream can't we?
1. When has Vader ever shown the ability to do that? I'm not denying he may be able to do that but the first thing you said is contrary to many things said in Star Wars Lore. Vader has always been unable to defend himself against force lightning, otherwise he would have in many other instances. Force lightning is not a Han Solo blaster bolt my friend. 2. I know, I know, but we can dream can't we?1. Vader is not unable to defend himself against Force Lightning. He is just not naturally resistant to it. Without employing Force Deflection or Barrier and simply tanking it, his life support systems would be critically damaged. Han Solo's blaster bolts are more powerful than some characters' Force Lightning. Lightning is not always the equivalent of what Palpatine or Bane can utilize it for; it does not just instantly kill a target. Often times, it only injures them or renders them unconscious. Besides that, Vader has effortlessly used Force Deflection against Boba Fett before, and Boba's blaster rifle has literally disintegrated targets upon impact. He also once redirected a stormtrooper's blaster shot back at him with enough accuracy that it severed his head (stormtrooper blaster carbines and rifles can tear holes through armored enemies). I see nothing here to suggest that Malgus' Lightning is that powerful. You did not address the issue of his lightsaber's ability to protect against it either.
2. No.
Has anyone actually read the TOR novels?I've read the Deceived book. I think the biggest problem for this fight is that Vader has had so much more exposure and years to produce feats. Compared to Malgus.
I'll have to re-read the fight scenes, but nothing over the top springs to mind for his combat ability.
@Silver2467 said:If you can find anything, even moderate feats, let me know. Not asking for quotes, but a general description of what the feat is would help.Has anyone actually read the TOR novels?I've read the Deceived book. I think the biggest problem for this fight is that Vader has had so much more exposure and years to produce feats. Compared to Malgus. I'll have to re-read the fight scenes, but nothing over the top springs to mind for his combat ability.
I'm gonna be pretty bored until the 2nd so will try and grab you some quotes. If not just for future references.
IMO the book overall was alright. I found myself wanting to skim sections however that dealt with the smuggler. Who's name I don't even remember. lol
@SpidermanWins said:I am aware of the use of force lightning. It is a weapon that drains the energy of an enemy through painful jolts of electricity with varying power. Blaster bolts and Force lightning, however are not the same in the same category but YOU did not address my question which, if answered, will provide the answer to yours. Has Vader ever shown the ability to defend himself against force lightning effectively? He has had the opportunity to do so and every time he is simply rendered helpless by it. Even a small jolt will shut down his systems. If you can show me anything with Vader performing such a feat then show it.1. When has Vader ever shown the ability to do that? I'm not denying he may be able to do that but the first thing you said is contrary to many things said in Star Wars Lore. Vader has always been unable to defend himself against force lightning, otherwise he would have in many other instances. Force lightning is not a Han Solo blaster bolt my friend. 2. I know, I know, but we can dream can't we?1. Vader is not unable to defend himself against Force Lightning. He is just not naturally resistant to it. Without employing Force Deflection or Barrier and simply tanking it, his life support systems would be critically damaged. Han Solo's blaster bolts are more powerful than some characters' Force Lightning. Lightning is not always the equivalent of what Palpatine or Bane can utilize it for; it does not just instantly kill a target. Often times, it only injures them or renders them unconscious. Besides that, Vader has effortlessly used Force Deflection against Boba Fett before, and Boba's blaster rifle has literally disintegrated targets upon impact. He also once redirected a stormtrooper's blaster shot back at him with enough accuracy that it severed his head (stormtrooper blaster carbines and rifles can tear holes through armored enemies). I see nothing here to suggest that Malgus' Lightning is that powerful. You did not address the issue of his lightsaber's ability to protect against it either. 2. No.
@SpidermanWins said:Why so negative?1. When has Vader ever shown the ability to do that? I'm not denying he may be able to do that but the first thing you said is contrary to many things said in Star Wars Lore. Vader has always been unable to defend himself against force lightning, otherwise he would have in many other instances. Force lightning is not a Han Solo blaster bolt my friend. 2. I know, I know, but we can dream can't we?2. No.
Curious..never played KOTOR..But it doesn't look like the Star Wars Storyline I remember.I though the Sith Empire used the Old Republics clones for their army?
I really am not required to. The only times Vader has ever fallen subject to Lightning was against Palpatine, whose Lightning overpowered Luke and Yoda's Force Deflection; so that incident does not translate over to Malgus, who has not demonstrated the same power with Lightning. The only other character who could have released Force Lightning against him is Starkiller, and he never did. The fact is Vader has used Deflection against energy attacks that are more potent than Malgus' Lightning. You seem to be assuming that Vader's Deflection is weak against Lightning, when this is not the case. His life support and armor are weak against Lightning. Nothing else. A small jolt will not just instantly shut down his systems either. You are exaggerating his weakness.I am aware of the use of force lightning. It is a weapon that drains the energy of an enemy through painful jolts of electricity with varying power. Blaster bolts and Force lightning, however are not the same in the same category but YOU did not address my question which, if answered, will provide the answer to yours. Has Vader ever shown the ability to defend himself against force lightning effectively? He has had the opportunity to do so and every time he is simply rendered helpless by it. Even a small jolt will shut down his systems. If you can show me anything with Vader performing such a feat then show it.
@Andy Steven Summers said:
Alright.@Silver2467: The main section that keeps popping up in my mind. Which really is not a combat feat. Is shortly after he had sacked the Jedi Temple he is hovering high above in his shuttle waiting for a specific someone to arrive. He jumps out of the shuttle without injury. It gives exact distance, but I don't remember it without looking it up. I'm gonna be pretty bored until the 2nd so will try and grab you some quotes. If not just for future references. IMO the book overall was alright. I found myself wanting to skim sections however that dealt with the smuggler. Who's name I don't even remember. lol
@SpidermanWins: @Andy Steven Summers: Curious..never played KOTOR..But it doesn't look like the Star Wars Storyline I remember.I though the Sith Empire used the Old Republics clones for their army?Do you mean the Clone Troopers turned Storm Troopers?
Those trailers take place thousands of years before the Star Wars movies.
I've thought that when the Empire took hold,they basically took every clones with them.I'm just not that factual on Star Wars mythos.
I have read NONE of the novels and only a couple of comics. I probably never will. Feats, please?Like I mentioned to Silver. I'll go through the book and post some feats of his. I doubt anything will be impressive enough to sway people however. Also from my understanding he just appears in the Deceived book. The other ToR books Fatal Alliance, and Red Harvest deal with other Sith.
@JediXMan: I'm referring to the only Star Wars storyline I know about...the movies...V_V I've thought that when the Empire took hold,they basically took every clones with them.I'm just not that factual on Star Wars mythos.Pretty much. Also, it's explained that Palpatine requested extra clones from other sources aside from Kamino (these were diluted clones, and therefore they weren't as good as Kamino clones. They were also 100% trained by computers and had an even lower life span). He also secretly requested ships from other sources, as well.
@Andy Steven Summers said:
@JediXMan said:Alright, thanks. Looking forward to it. I know next to nothing about TOR.I have read NONE of the novels and only a couple of comics. I probably never will. Feats, please?Like I mentioned to Silver. I'll go through the book and post some feats of his. I doubt anything will be impressive enough to sway people however. Also from my understanding he just appears in the Deceived book. The other ToR books Fatal Alliance, and Red Harvest deal with other Sith.
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