Battle one: Takes place atop the Statue of liberty. Darth Maul can only use his Lightsaber here. No force powers (to compensate for Spider-Mans lack of mobility). Victory by KO, or death.
Battle two: Takes place in Times Square. Darth Maul has access to all of his force abilities. Victory by KO, or death.
Maul's not the best duelist of the time, but he is an exceptionally skilled Jar'Kai user. Spidey's a freestyle fighter. He lacks the tactical ability and skill, and his webbing can be block and cut by Maul. One strike by Maul, and Spidey's out. Maul wins.
Maul's not the best duelist of the time, but he is an exceptionally skilled Jar'Kai user. Spidey's a freestyle fighter. He lacks the tactical ability and skill, and his webbing can be block and cut by Maul. One strike by Maul, and Spidey's out. Maul wins. "
I would think Spideys reflexes would play an important part in this battle. Not sure if his Spider-sense would alert him to force tactics, however.
Maul's not the best duelist of the time, but he is an exceptionally skilled Jar'Kai user. Spidey's a freestyle fighter. He lacks the tactical ability and skill, and his webbing can be block and cut by Maul. One strike by Maul, and Spidey's out. Maul wins. "
I would think Spideys reflexes would play an important part in this battle. Not sure if his Spider-sense would alert him to force tactics, however. "
Yes, his Spidey sense can help, but if you know anything about Spidey's track record against trained combatants, you'd know he doesn't do so well. Maul falls under that category, especially given the added danger presented by his lightsaber. Maul's primarily a lightsaber duelist. He's not huge on Force powers, but he still does know some basic telekinetic powers, such as Push and Throw. Even still though, I hold to Maul defeating Spidey even without those powers based on his pure skill alone.
Maul's not the best duelist of the time, but he is an exceptionally skilled Jar'Kai user. Spidey's a freestyle fighter. He lacks the tactical ability and skill, and his webbing can be block and cut by Maul. One strike by Maul, and Spidey's out. Maul wins. "
I would think Spideys reflexes would play an important part in this battle. Not sure if his Spider-sense would alert him to force tactics, however. "
Yes, his Spidey sense can help, but if you know anything about Spidey's track record against trained combatants, you'd know he doesn't do so well. Maul falls under that category, especially given the added danger presented by his lightsaber. Maul's primarily a lightsaber duelist. He's not huge on Force powers, but he still does know some basic telekinetic powers, such as Push and Throw. Even still though, I hold to Maul defeating Spidey even without those powers based on his pure skill alone. "
Spider-Man has a great track record against experienced combatants.
Maul's not the best duelist of the time, but he is an exceptionally skilled Jar'Kai user. Spidey's a freestyle fighter. He lacks the tactical ability and skill, and his webbing can be block and cut by Maul. One strike by Maul, and Spidey's out. Maul wins. "
I would think Spideys reflexes would play an important part in this battle. Not sure if his Spider-sense would alert him to force tactics, however. "
Yes, his Spidey sense can help, but if you know anything about Spidey's track record against trained combatants, you'd know he doesn't do so well. Maul falls under that category, especially given the added danger presented by his lightsaber. Maul's primarily a lightsaber duelist. He's not huge on Force powers, but he still does know some basic telekinetic powers, such as Push and Throw. Even still though, I hold to Maul defeating Spidey even without those powers based on his pure skill alone. "
Spider-Man has a great track record against experienced combatants. "
No he doesn't. Daredevil, Iron Fist (without Chi), Cap, Elektra, Taskmaster, and others have defeated him. Cap even humiliated Spidey with the Iron Spider armor in Civil War, which was after the Other, making him even more powerful. Spidey doesn't do well against trained fighters. He lacks the combat skill and strategic understanding.
@The Average Bear: Correction, Iron First without Chi pretty much stalemated him, and Taskmaster was doing well. But there was a strange part of his fight with Taskmaster. Regardless, they've all done much better than you'd expect. His having superior physical attributes doesn't cut it, especially considering he always holds back so he doesn't kill someone. He's not a good enough fighter.
" maul wouldn't be as fast in the first battle since the force enhances physical stats "
No, it doesn't. He never used Dark Rage. That was all him. It'd be the same as if Spidey were fighting someone like Daredevil or Cap. They're not superhuman, but both have defeated him.
fight one maul gets no force against spidey but spidey gets his webs, his wall crawling, his super human abilites and his spider sense? SPITE fight two.... Maul stomps. spidey sense vs force sense. darth fought quigon jin and obi wan with out even looking at obi wan.
Then he's going to die horribly then. Jedi and Sith are very big on having the force give them the physical ability to block blaster fire and do super jumps and such. He would essentially be blinded since hes so dependant on it.
1. Spiderman 2. Spiderman, mainly because my lack of knowledge on Mual's various force abilities. Didn't see him do much of the basics and he got beaten by Kenobi twice.
@Hellos: kenobi would DESTROY spiderman. thats why he beat darth twice. obi is the MAN. spidey (i love him, one of the ONLY comics i follow) would die.... horribly.
" fight one maul gets no force against spidey but spidey gets his webs, his wall crawling, his super human abilites and his spider sense? SPITE fight two.... Maul stomps. spidey sense vs force sense. darth fought quigon jin and obi wan with out even looking at obi wan. "
It's not spite at all. What wall is he going to crawl on? They are on top of the Statue of Liberty.
" fight one maul gets no force against spidey but spidey gets his webs, his wall crawling, his super human abilites and his spider sense? SPITE fight two.... Maul stomps. spidey sense vs force sense. darth fought quigon jin and obi wan with out even looking at obi wan. "
It's not spite at all. What wall is he going to crawl on? They are on top of the Statue of Liberty. "
maybe.... hmmm good question.
(10 hours later):maybe he'll crawl on.... THE STATUE OF LIBERTY!!!!
Maul's not the best duelist of the time, but he is an exceptionally skilled Jar'Kai user. Spidey's a freestyle fighter. He lacks the tactical ability and skill, and his webbing can be block and cut by Maul. One strike by Maul, and Spidey's out. Maul wins. "
I would think Spideys reflexes would play an important part in this battle. Not sure if his Spider-sense would alert him to force tactics, however. "
Yes, his Spidey sense can help, but if you know anything about Spidey's track record against trained combatants, you'd know he doesn't do so well. Maul falls under that category, especially given the added danger presented by his lightsaber. Maul's primarily a lightsaber duelist. He's not huge on Force powers, but he still does know some basic telekinetic powers, such as Push and Throw. Even still though, I hold to Maul defeating Spidey even without those powers based on his pure skill alone. "
Spider-Man has a great track record against experienced combatants. "
No he doesn't. Daredevil, Iron Fist (without Chi), Cap, Elektra, Taskmaster, and others have defeated him. Cap even humiliated Spidey with the Iron Spider armor in Civil War, which was after the Other, making him even more powerful. Spidey doesn't do well against trained fighters. He lacks the combat skill and strategic understanding. "
Iron fist never defeated him. In both of their fights there was no winner but spidey did better than iron fist in their fights and iron fist used chi.
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The only time that DD beaten spidey it was when spidey was extremely mad and he was fighting sloppier than ever. Even DD stated that this was his advantage.
The only time that Taskmaster defeated spidey it was when his spider sense was ignored. Spidey was doing well against him but then Taskmaster thrwe a baton and it was hit on a wall and it was deflect back to Peter and it hit him from behind. His spider-sense logically should warn him about the baton but it didn't. I don't doubt that Task can beat spidey but i wouldn't try to use this fight to prove it.
Anyway i agree with you that Darth should win but i would like to make clear some things so it won't be a missunderstanding. Also i have to add that spidey's lack of skills wasn't the only factor that make him lose to some people. Don't forget his morals. If spidey didn't hesitate to KO DD with one punch DD should never humiliate him in any of their fights.=]
" fight one maul gets no force against spidey but spidey gets his webs, his wall crawling, his super human abilites and his spider sense? SPITE fight two.... Maul stomps. spidey sense vs force sense. darth fought quigon jin and obi wan with out even looking at obi wan. "
It's not spite at all. What wall is he going to crawl on? They are on top of the Statue of Liberty. "
maybe.... hmmm good question. (10 hours later):maybe he'll crawl on.... THE STATUE OF LIBERTY!!!! "
If it's not clear, the fight is limited to the top. That's why I said ATOP the Statue instead of on the island as a whole
" fight one maul gets no force against spidey but spidey gets his webs, his wall crawling, his super human abilites and his spider sense? SPITE fight two.... Maul stomps. spidey sense vs force sense. darth fought quigon jin and obi wan with out even looking at obi wan. "
It's not spite at all. What wall is he going to crawl on? They are on top of the Statue of Liberty. "
maybe.... hmmm good question. (10 hours later):maybe he'll crawl on.... THE STATUE OF LIBERTY!!!! "
If it's not clear, the fight is limited to the top. That's why I said ATOP the Statue instead of on the island as a whole "
let me literally draw this out for you..... http://yfrog.com/jvdumbideap
@Silver2467: Oh ok. It's not that i don't agree with you. It's just that the fact that spidey is an unskilled person doesn't really make him unable to defeat any of them.It's just that is more likely for them to beat him.=]
@Silver2467: Oh ok. It's not that i don't agree with you. It's just that the fact that spidey is an unskilled person doesn't really make him unable to defeat any of them.It's just that is more likely for them to beat him.=]
Spidey does indeed have skill, and at this point(Prior to #700) he had Advanced Martial Arts training from Shang Chi.
This is basicly Spider-Man vs a guy with a Lightsaber and Telekinetic powers. Sure....I know Maul can move his Saberstaff at incredible speeds, but that isn't really gonna do anything to Spidey.
@Silver2467: Oh ok. It's not that i don't agree with you. It's just that the fact that spidey is an unskilled person doesn't really make him unable to defeat any of them.It's just that is more likely for them to beat him.=]
Spidey does indeed have skill, and at this point(Prior to #700) he had Advanced Martial Arts training from Shang Chi.
This is basicly Spider-Man vs a guy with a Lightsaber and Telekinetic powers. Sure....I know Maul can move his Saberstaff at incredible speeds, but that isn't really gonna do anything to Spidey.
Well, you could notice that my post is like 2 years old. At the time spidey didn't have his training with Shang! :)
Round 1 Spider-Man wins now that he has some martial arts experience under his belt.(Unless we have to use Ock/Spidey who would lose due to inexperience)
Round 2 Spider-Man gets wiped out pretty easily if Maul actually uses his force powers.
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