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#51  Edited By DOMINIS
Dreadnaught said:
"Yuuzhan'Tar can shut off trillions from the force.  So can Zonoma Sekot. "

They can only shut the Vong off from the force, because the Vong are their symbiots. Sidious zapped the wills from the inhabitants of Byss to where they were mindless slaves. Then he drained them of their life energy.
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#52  Edited By Vrakmul
Darth Balls said:
"Darth maul Vs. Fett not vader vs fett."
It came to that when I mentioned Grievous is the greatest jedi hunter-killer.  Any way Boba shorts out maul's lightsaber with an ionization gun *with no blaster elements, so it only damages electronics, and nothing else* so maul finds himself with only one lightsaber blade, then fett fires again and maul has no blades, and as maul has shown very little skill with the force, Boba Fett then ignites one of his lightsabers and slashes maul in half horizontally, then again vertically.  Then he burns maul's corpse with a flame thrower and freezes it with a cyro-grenade, then throws a thermal detonator then jets 25m away so he will be outside the explosion, after taking maul's lightsaber, and the thermal detonator elimanates maul's corpse, so his body can't be used to make a revived cyborg *that fought obi-wan, though my friend tells me that was a non-canon event*, nor a clone *that fought vader*. 
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#53  Edited By DOMINIS
Dreadnaught said:
"Darth Balls said:
"Wow Really gotten off main subject."
We are arguing about whether or not an ion blaster would short out vader's systems, when an ion weapon is specifically made to do such a thing, force lightning does it as an after effect. "

An ion blaster is not powerful enough to penetrate Vader's armor. Regular humans have survived blasts from ion blasters. Vader's cybernetic system was protected by his sith alchemy made armor. Only Sidious's lightning has been shown to damage Vader's cybernetic system beyond repair.

If it was so easy to kill Vader then anyone with good aim and a ion blaster would have killed Vader, since there was so many who wanted him dead. An ion blaster is not hard to get a hold of.
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#54  Edited By Vrakmul
DOMINIS said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"Yuuzhan'Tar can shut off trillions from the force.  So can Zonoma Sekot. "

They can only shut the Vong off from the force, because the Vong are their symbiots. Sidious zapped the wills from the inhabitants of Byss to where they were mindless slaves. Then he drained them of their life energy."
Zonama Sekot can make asteroid/comet belts, scattered/organized comet/asteroid disks, comet/asteroid clouds/orbs, planetary belts/rings/clouds/orbs all head towards a certain point with force tk, which it amplifies with the manipulation of it's gravitational and magnetic pull.   Thus making it the most powerful force tk user.  It can easily send planets crashing into their home suns, but never found the stomach to do so. 
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#55  Edited By Vrakmul
DOMINIS said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"Darth Balls said:
"Wow Really gotten off main subject."
We are arguing about whether or not an ion blaster would short out vader's systems, when an ion weapon is specifically made to do such a thing, force lightning does it as an after effect. "

An ion blaster is not powerful enough to penetrate Vader's armor. Regular humans have survived blasts from ion blasters. Vader's cybernetic system was protected by his sith alchemy made armor. Only Sidious's lightning has been shown to damage Vader's cybernetic system beyond repair.

If it was so easy to kill Vader then anyone with good aim and a ion blaster would have killed Vader, since there was so many who wanted him dead. An ion blaster is not hard to get a hold of."
a purely ion bolt weapon, with no blaster parts, can short out a super battle droid from over 30m, a heavy ionized bolt rifle can short out an ultra battle droid from over 150m easily.  At 5m, vader would be fried.  However, Vader took the prudence to outlaw such powerful ion weaponary, as if you were weak against a certain type of weapon, wouldn't you outlaw it?  Also, the most important part of Vader's life support, his chest control panel, is not protected for some bizzare reason that was probably an oversight on palpatine's part. 
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#56  Edited By DOMINIS
Dreadnaught said:
"DOMINIS said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"Yuuzhan'Tar can shut off trillions from the force.  So can Zonoma Sekot. "

They can only shut the Vong off from the force, because the Vong are their symbiots. Sidious zapped the wills from the inhabitants of Byss to where they were mindless slaves. Then he drained them of their life energy."
Zonama Sekot can make asteroid/comet belts, scattered/organized comet/asteroid disks, comet/asteroid clouds/orbs, planetary belts/rings/clouds/orbs all head towards a certain point with force tk, which it amplifies with the manipulation of it's gravitational and magnetic pull.   Thus making it the most powerful force tk user.  It can easily send planets crashing into their home suns, but never found the stomach to do so. "
I don't remember all of that. I still don't think that compares to Palpatine being able to rip a hole in the fabric of space and time, thus creating a wormhole, and sending it lightyears away, ravaging a city and teleporting Luke, or being able to crush entire starfleets.

Naga Sadow was able to create supernovas, but was not as powerful as Palpatine.
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#58  Edited By DOMINIS
Dreadnaught said:
"DOMINIS said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"Darth Balls said:
"Wow Really gotten off main subject."
We are arguing about whether or not an ion blaster would short out vader's systems, when an ion weapon is specifically made to do such a thing, force lightning does it as an after effect. "

An ion blaster is not powerful enough to penetrate Vader's armor. Regular humans have survived blasts from ion blasters. Vader's cybernetic system was protected by his sith alchemy made armor. Only Sidious's lightning has been shown to damage Vader's cybernetic system beyond repair.

If it was so easy to kill Vader then anyone with good aim and a ion blaster would have killed Vader, since there was so many who wanted him dead. An ion blaster is not hard to get a hold of."
a purely ion bolt weapon, with no blaster parts, can short out a super battle droid from over 30m, a heavy ionized bolt rifle can short out an ultra battle droid from over 150m easily.  At 5m, vader would be fried.  However, Vader took the prudence to outlaw such powerful ion weaponary, as if you were weak against a certain type of weapon, wouldn't you outlaw it?  Also, the most important part of Vader's life support, his chest control panel, is not protected for some bizzare reason that was probably an oversight on palpatine's part. "

Super battle droids are nothing compared to Vader's armor. Jedi have destroyed super battle droids with lightsabers. Ion blasters were not outlawed. There were storm troopers and imperial officer who had possesion of them, many of which hated Vader, and would have loved to see him destroyed. Vader has back up systems for a limited of time, so if his control panel got destroyed he can continue fighting. Maul slashed a whole through his control panel, Galen threw heavy pillars on Vader that severly damaged his entire suit, and even ripped his helmet off, but Vader still survived for just enough time to have his suit repaired.

Besides do you think Vader is going to stand there and let someone shoot him? No Vader has precognition on his side. He would force choke Boba in a heart beat. I can not believe this has turned into an arguement.

Maul would do the exact same to Boba.

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#59  Edited By EganTheVile1
kaino12 said:
"11th rule of the intenet bobba fett wins.(even after he died. he still wins)"

Boba never died, even Lucas considered adding Boba's escape to the ROTJ special edition, but decided it wouldnt match the established timeline that Fett spent in the Sarlacc.... But we saw more of Fett in his Dark Horse series after he escaped. Plus he is a main character in the upcoming live action SW series
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#60  Edited By Darth Balls
eganthevile1 said:
"kaino12 said:
"11th rule of the intenet bobba fett wins.(even after he died. he still wins)"

Boba never died, even Lucas considered adding Boba's escape to the ROTJ special edition, but decided it wouldnt match the established timeline that Fett spent in the Sarlacc.... But we saw more of Fett in his Dark Horse series after he escaped. Plus he is a main character in the upcoming live action SW series"
Yeah but his character role takes place before ROTJ.
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#61  Edited By EganTheVile1
Darth Balls said:
"eganthevile1 said:
"kaino12 said:
"11th rule of the intenet bobba fett wins.(even after he died. he still wins)"

Boba never died, even Lucas considered adding Boba's escape to the ROTJ special edition, but decided it wouldnt match the established timeline that Fett spent in the Sarlacc.... But we saw more of Fett in his Dark Horse series after he escaped. Plus he is a main character in the upcoming live action SW series"
Yeah but his character role takes place before ROTJ."
His DH role took place after ROTJ
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#62  Edited By Darth Balls

The new sw tv series not the comic.

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#63  Edited By Vrakmul
DOMINIS said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"DOMINIS said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"Yuuzhan'Tar can shut off trillions from the force.  So can Zonoma Sekot. "

They can only shut the Vong off from the force, because the Vong are their symbiots. Sidious zapped the wills from the inhabitants of Byss to where they were mindless slaves. Then he drained them of their life energy."
Zonama Sekot can make asteroid/comet belts, scattered/organized comet/asteroid disks, comet/asteroid clouds/orbs, planetary belts/rings/clouds/orbs all head towards a certain point with force tk, which it amplifies with the manipulation of it's gravitational and magnetic pull.   Thus making it the most powerful force tk user.  It can easily send planets crashing into their home suns, but never found the stomach to do so. "
I don't remember all of that. I still don't think that compares to Palpatine being able to rip a hole in the fabric of space and time, thus creating a wormhole, and sending it lightyears away, ravaging a city and teleporting Luke, or being able to crush entire starfleets.

Naga Sadow was able to create supernovas, but was not as powerful as Palpatine."
Zonama sekot did that to New Yuuzhan'Tar *Coruscant* it send every piece of debris in the Coruscanti system *planetary rings, asteroid clusters, comet groups, anything you name it* towards it to occupy the Dovin Basals so the combined forces of the New Republic, Imperial Remenant, Mandalorian Protectorate, Hapes Consortium, Smugglers Alliance, and the Chiss Ascendancy or the Galactic Free Federations Alliance as they were collectively called, could defeat the Yuuzhan Vong armada, and with the help of a lower caste, slave, and shamed one rebellion, the Yuuzhan Vong Empire was crushed under a attack on all fronts.  And the last, most desperate ones got owned by Sekotian Fighters. 
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#64  Edited By Winduizcool

Darth Maul. I have respect for Fett, but let's face it. Maul took on the whole entire Black Sun clan and Nightsister. Black Sun vs Boba, just too many highly skilled hunters.

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#65  Edited By seventhsign

Check out the comic that is put together here 
 
 http://www.drunkduck.com/Star_Wars_Tales__Fury_and_Intensity/

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#66  Edited By geraldthesloth

Jango would win
 
Boba would lose

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#67  Edited By seventhsign
@Darth Balls:

http://www.drunkduck.com/Star_Wars_Tales__Fury_and_Intensity/
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Much respect to Boba, but he's sliced and diced once this fight is over.
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#69  Edited By thedeman87

I know about Boba's antics in books and graphic novels, but film-wise, Boba Fett is the most overrated SW character ever.  He did nothing except for successfully track Han Solo. Nothing!   
 
Maul however has been very impressive in graphic novels as well and in film.  He would have beat both jedi had he not been so cocky standing and taunting Obi Wan. Maul was one swing away from changing the course of SW history all together.   
 
And for the Vader fight, Maul out-dueled Vader from what I remember.  The only way Vader beat him was by stabbing through his own mechanical body into Darth Maul and tricking him that way.  Boba was lucky Vader let him live.

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Darth Maul

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#71  Edited By FLCL1
@Andferne said:
" Darth Maul "
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#72  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Boba Fett wins.

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@FLCL1 said:
" @Andferne said:
" Darth Maul "
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#74  Edited By yodagod

Maul stomps this. As was already pointed out, witout significant prep,  Boba is outclassed.  Maul is a combat monster.  With the exception of Darth Bane, Exar Kun, Kyp Durron, probably Luke (hate to admit that), and maybe Uliq Qel Droma I see very few people in the Star Wars universe who have a realistic shot of defeating him.  I know Vader has the defeat, but I consider that PIS (though very good PIS), and CIS because of Maul's overconfidence.
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I think that Maul would school Boba Fett

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#76  Edited By Satyrquaze
@The Time Keeper said:
"@FLCL1 said:
" @Andferne said:
" Darth Maul "
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#77  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@JediXMan said:
" Boba Fett wins. "
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#78  Edited By Undergroundgod

Darth Maul is a Dark Sith Lord. Boba Fett is a bounty hunter, with a ship named Slave I, II, III.... Lets face it he can't even keep his ship in good shape, how do you expect him to keep his head? When his father couldn't!
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#79  Edited By Baldy
@JediXMan said:
" Boba Fett wins. "
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @JediXMan said:
" Boba Fett wins. "
"
A trip to the morgue.
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#80  Edited By Dynoblaze

Boba Fett FTW.

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#81  Edited By yodagod

For everyone saying Boba wins I have a simple question.  How?  What skillset does he have that allows him a victory in a random encounter with any force using character, much less one trained practically from birth for the sole pupose of being a weapon?  He can shoot Maul, and Maul easily blocks with his lightsaber.  He can launch a rocket which Maul can use move object on and send back to his target.  He can use a flame thrower, but then he's in much closer range than he wants to be, Maul uses the force to leap directly over the flames and kills Boba.  Maul is faster and has far greater versatility.   Boba's jetpack is good for short bursts, but has been as detrimental as effective in comics, books, and movies. Boba in general has some poor showings against force users.  He is perfectly suited to apprehending the Butcher of Montellian Surrat or tracking the Millenium Falcon to Bespin, but against a Jedi or even worse a Sith he is outclassed.  As for Jedi hunters in general, most have much inflated reputations that are not acurate.  Even Grievous' kill count is mostly children.  The only legit Jedi hunter is High Inquisitor Tremayne.  When it comes to killing Jedi, Grievous, Aurra Sing, Boba Fett, and even Vader have reputations that pale in the harsh light of their actual exploits, which again consist mostly of killing children and old men.  Maul kills entire armys of elite assassins. Boba is a speed bump.    
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#82  Edited By vuviper
@yodagod said:
" For everyone saying Boba wins I have a simple question.  How?  What skillset does he have that allows him a victory in a random encounter with any force using character, much less one trained practically from birth for the sole pupose of being a weapon?  He can shoot Maul, and Maul easily blocks with his lightsaber.  He can launch a rocket which Maul can use move object on and send back to his target.  He can use a flame thrower, but then he's in much closer range than he wants to be, Maul uses the force to leap directly over the flames and kills Boba.  Maul is faster and has far greater versatility.   Boba's jetpack is good for short bursts, but has been as detrimental as effective in comics, books, and movies. Boba in general has some poor showings against force users.  He is perfectly suited to apprehending the Butcher of Montellian Surrat or tracking the Millenium Falcon to Bespin, but against a Jedi or even worse a Sith he is outclassed.  As for Jedi hunters in general, most have much inflated reputations that are not acurate.  Even Grievous' kill count is mostly children.  The only legit Jedi hunter is High Inquisitor Tremayne.  When it comes to killing Jedi, Grievous, Aurra Sing, Boba Fett, and even Vader have reputations that pale in the harsh light of their actual exploits, which again consist mostly of killing children and old men.  Maul kills entire armys of elite assassins. Boba is a speed bump.     "
Didn't he stalemate Vader? I don't really know and I wouldn't know how, I just thought he had
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#83  Edited By yodagod

They had a silly lightsaber duel.  Boba shouldn't even be able to use a lightsaber, and even in the midst of a huge pile of PIS Vader still had to go easy on him.  His most impressive feat to me is an assault on the Shell Hutts' home world where he set up a complex series of events and double crosses that had repercussions through many sectors.  His only advantage in this battle is that he is wearing Mandalorian armor.  If it were an older style armor that offered more protection he might actually have a chance because Mandalorian iron is impervious to lightsabers.  But the only part of his armor that's made from it is his chest piece, cod piece, and greaves.  That leaves entirely too many vulnerable areas to someone as skilled as Maul, who can ricochet blaster bolts with his lightsaber with more accuracy than even the most skilled marksmen.
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Talk about underrating Maul/overrating Boba. I love both characters, and Boba is good, but in no universe is he ever defeating Darth Maul. There are people several tiers less capable than Maul who could beat Boba. This is essentially a mismatch.

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Even TPM Maul would win every time.

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#89  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

LAL.

I'm pretty sure JXM changed his stance on this batlle----so I don't think quoting a post from nearly 5 years ago is a good idea....

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LAL.

I'm pretty sure JXM changed his stance on this batlle----so I don't think quoting a post from nearly 5 years ago is a good idea....

Hahahaha I know right! He must be getting sick of this.

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@i_like_swords: Eh. I used to think that Anakin stomps Dooku and that Luke stomps Palpatine.

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@i_like_swords: The difference is that JXM's older posts are usually quoted, or the threads are bumped, so that they come to light more often. It's probably a bit more embarrassing, but JXM deals with a lot of situations very well.

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@i_like_swords:

That's why you shouldn't quote old post...I used to think Darth Bane could be Goku via Life Force drain...LAL.

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@shootingnova: Nothing to be embarrassed about really. It's just an opinion from years ago.

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@i_like_swords:

That's why you shouldn't quote old post...I used to think Darth Bane could be Goku via Life Force drain...LAL.

Yeah you were an interesting Viner two years ago, that's for certain :p

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@i_like_swords:

If "interesting" means saying a lot of idiotic drivel....I'm guilty as charged. :D

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Darth maul.

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The older posts on here......so many headaches...

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@thevivas said:

The older posts on here......so many headaches...

That's true, but you have to take one thing into consideration - and I don't mean the obvious fact that many people probably started posting here when their knowledge about characters and SW in general could be simply poor.

To be fair, few years ago you could really successfully make a thesis that Boba Fett could defeat Darth Maul. With each year there is more content within Star Wars, and it develops too. There was a time when Jedi were "normal people with gifts" in EU - it started chaning around the time of TPM release. Therefore, there's sometimes no reason to feel shocked about the old posts - opinions from all those years ago were based on a different stage of development of SW, when the whole direction and general idea about EU, Jedi, Force - was simply different. All those years ago you had very different content in Star Wars in general, and there was 70% less content with Maul.

I'm not saying it's not funny, because it is - but it's also normal. No reason to be shocked.