#1 Posted by ShadowKing (834 posts) - - Show Bio

Version: Luke from Return of the Jedi. 
  
The fight takes place inside of a Death Star. (Same place where Luke fought his father for the last time). 
Win by Death. 
Morals are off. 
Luke has a blue lightsaber. 
Malgus has a red one. 
No prep. 
Close distance. 
Who wins? 
 

#2 Edited by sithlord_1 (10 posts) - - Show Bio

winner is luke, his connection to the force and power is vastly superior to malgus's who wouldnt be strong enough to prevent himself from being ownd.

#3 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1495 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke Wins.

#4 Posted by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm leaning toward Luke for this one.

Vastly superior (raw) Force power, and he beat a superior duelist (Vader) at the climax of ROTJ

#5 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke stomps or near stomps Malgus. He beat Vader, and Vader was at his prime there, and we know Vader is better than Malgus. Plus Luke be Vader with morals on. Morals off Luke *shudders, could potentially destroy Malgus just with the Force.

#7 Edited by i_like_swords (13835 posts) - - Show Bio

Thread Hijack:

  • Legends versions
  • RotJ Luke Skywalker, Malgus is in his prime.
  • Standard gear, morals, in character ect
  • Fight to the death, ko or incapacitation

R1 - Luke is under his usual morals.

R2 - Luke is okay with killing Malgus off the bat.

Location

#8 Posted by Deronn_Solo (367 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke should win a marginal majority.

#9 Posted by Whirlwind_33 (1590 posts) - - Show Bio

@deronn_solo: OH SNAP! Nice Avatar

Luke should win a marginal majority.

I see Luke taking 7/10 here imo

#10 Edited by Assman (1836 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke wasn't all that in RoJ, he wasn't even a master yet? All he did by the end of Jedi is full fill the prophecy and then start his full proper jedi training to becoming a grand master well after those events. I don't see why Malgus couldn't take RoJ Luke, who again, was barely a jedi knight at the time. iirc, ROTJ is set only 6 months after ESB?

#11 Posted by Eisenfauste (8112 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke to OP, Luke to ILS.

#12 Edited by dondave (35985 posts) - - Show Bio

Skywalker

#13 Posted by i_like_swords (13835 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm curious as to how Luke contends with Malgus' sheer power.

#14 Edited by ShootingNova (16112 posts) - - Show Bio

R1 - Luke in a very narrow fight.

R2 - Luke for a noticeably solid majority.

@assman said:

Luke wasn't all that in RoJ, he wasn't even a master yet? All he did by the end of Jedi is full fill the prophecy and then start his full proper jedi training to becoming a grand master well after those events. I don't see why Malgus couldn't take RoJ Luke, who again, was barely a jedi knight at the time. iirc, ROTJ is set only 6 months after ESB?

Rank is utterly irrelevant to power, skill, or anything else. Luke never became a master until a significant amount of time later, but this is irrelevant. The fact is that Luke was an equal with Vader in terms of dueling skill, and on par with the likes of Obi-Wan in terms of Force power. If rank mattered so much, we'd be arguing that Tarkin could wreck Darth Vader.

And RotJ is set one year after TESB.

#15 Edited by Assman (1836 posts) - - Show Bio

R1 - Luke in a very narrow fight.

R2 - Luke for a noticeably solid majority.

@assman said:

Luke wasn't all that in RoJ, he wasn't even a master yet? All he did by the end of Jedi is full fill the prophecy and then start his full proper jedi training to becoming a grand master well after those events. I don't see why Malgus couldn't take RoJ Luke, who again, was barely a jedi knight at the time. iirc, ROTJ is set only 6 months after ESB?

Rank is utterly irrelevant to power, skill, or anything else. Luke never became a master until a significant amount of time later, but this is irrelevant. The fact is that Luke was an equal with Vader in terms of dueling skill, and on par with the likes of Obi-Wan in terms of Force power. If rank mattered so much, we'd be arguing that Tarkin could wreck Darth Vader.

And RotJ is set one year after TESB.

One year? Thanx, couldn't remember. It's well stated that Vader was far from his prime by Jedi, and it showed, as a lot of that fight was to do with father/son/prophecy. I'm not saying it's a one way fight, but, Luke was no where near as skilled or power full as people seem to think he was in Jedi. Though I do understand what your trying to say, your Tarkin analogy seems out of place?

#16 Posted by ShootingNova (16112 posts) - - Show Bio

@assman: Vader is not out of his prime by RotJ. Vader was in his prime by RotJ:

Lord Vader did not mind waiting, though, nor was even aware of it. For it was an honor, and a noble activity, to kneel at his ruler's feet. He kept his eyes inward, seeking reflection in his own bottomless core. His power was great, now, greater than it had ever been. It shimmered from within, and resonated with the waves of darkness that flowed from the Emperor. He felt engorged with this power, it surged like black fire, demon electrons looking for ground...but he would wait. For his Emperor was not ready; and his son was not ready, and the time was not yet. So he waited.

Source: Return of the Jedi

Yes, Luke is significantly skilful and powerful. Not bothered to post all of his feats, but you can check them here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/obi-wan-kenobi-vs-luke-skywalker-646542/?page=2

#17 Edited by Assman (1836 posts) - - Show Bio

@assman: Vader is not out of his prime by RotJ. Vader was in his prime by RotJ:

Lord Vader did not mind waiting, though, nor was even aware of it. For it was an honor, and a noble activity, to kneel at his ruler's feet. He kept his eyes inward, seeking reflection in his own bottomless core. His power was great, now, greater than it had ever been. It shimmered from within, and resonated with the waves of darkness that flowed from the Emperor. He felt engorged with this power, it surged like black fire, demon electrons looking for ground...but he would wait. For his Emperor was not ready; and his son was not ready, and the time was not yet. So he waited.

Source: Return of the Jedi

Yes, Luke is significantly skilful and powerful. Not bothered to post all of his feats, but you can check them here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/obi-wan-kenobi-vs-luke-skywalker-646542/?page=2

I only read the dark empire series as far as Luke in the comics go. I have read a lot about him online. That's out of the novelization of ROTJ, I take it?

#18 Posted by ShootingNova (16112 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by Penderor (1494 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke 7/10.

#20 Posted by Intrepid37 (697 posts) - - Show Bio

ROTJ and pre-ROTJ, Malgus in a hard fight. Post-ROTJ, Luke in a hard fight.

#21 Posted by lordraiden (7007 posts) - - Show Bio

ROTJ and pre-ROTJ, Malgus in a hard fight. Post-ROTJ, Luke in a hard fight.

My thoughts exactly

#22 Posted by Intrepid37 (697 posts) - - Show Bio