Darth Malgus Vs Galen Marek

Fight takes place in an abandoned arena.

Based on the info you provided for me, I'll say Galen.

Also, I'd like to mention that the protagonist of FUII is generally just "Starkiller," while the original is Galen. This is generally to make a distinction between the original and the clone.

@JediXMan: What if the fight was broken down into different set ups.  Fight 1: Lightsaber dual only Fight 2: Force powers only Fighter 3: All out

@JediXMan: What sets him above and beyond Malgus in your mind for Fight 3?  I agree on the outcomes of fight 1 & 2. Though I think fight 2 could be a close call.

All quotes were taken from the Deceived novel by Paul S. Kemp

The last word hung in the air, frozen in time, as Malgus drew on the Force and augmented his speed. The hilt of his lightsaber filled his hand and its red line split the air. He crosscut the guard before him, putting a black canyon in his chest, continued the swing through the guard on his left, and with his left hand used a blast of power to drive the third guard into the Temple wall hard enough to crush bones and kill him.

Malgus felt the sudden surge of terror in the two soldiers up on the ledge to his left, felt them take aim in sweaty hands, start to squeeze triggers. He flung his lightsaber at them, guided it with the Force in a flickering red arc that cut both of them down, then recalled the blade to his hand. He deactivated it and hunt it from his belt.

Malgus, nested deeply in the Force, perceived the dozens of bolts and their trajectory with perfect clarity. Without breaking stride he whipped his blade left, right, angled it ten degrees, and turned three bolts back on the soldiers who'd fired them, killing all three.

Malgus augmented his strength with the Force, took a two-handed grip on his blade, and unleashed an overhand slash designed to split the Jedi in half. The Jedi sidestepped the blow and crosscut with his blue blade at Malgus throat. Malgus got his blade up in time, parried, and slammed a kick into the Jedi's mid-section. The blow folded the Jedi in half, sent him reeling backward five paces. Malgus leapt into the air, flipped, landed behind him, and drove his blade through the Jedi.

Malgus drew on the Force and with a blast of power drove the Padawan across the hall and into one of the towering columns of stone, where she collapsed, blood leaking from her nose.

Malgus, not to be outdone, picked a Jedi Knight at random, a human female ten meters away, held forth his left hand, and discharged veins of blue lightning from his finger tips. The jagged lines of energy cut a swath through the battle, harvesting two Padawans as they went, until they caught up to the Jedi Knight and lifted her off her feet.
She screamed as the lightning ripped into her, her flesh made temporarily translucent from the dark power coursing through her. Malgus savored her pain as she died.

Before he could locate the Jedi Master, three more Jedi swarmed him. He parried the chop of a human male, leapt over the low slash of an orange-skinned Togruta female, severed the hand of the third, a female human, disarming her, then grabbed her by the throat with his free hand and slammed her into the floor with his Force-enhanced strength.
"Alara!" said the human male.
Leaping high over the male's cross-slash, Malgus landed behind the Togruta, who parried his ligthsaber strike but could not defend herself against the Force blast that sent her skidding across the hall and into a pile of rubble.
He ducked under a slash from the male, lunged forward, and took the Jedi by the throat. He lifted him from his feet and held him suspended in the air, gagging. The Jedi's brown eyes showed no fear, but did show pain. Malgus roared, squeezed hard, then dropped the body and stood over it, blade at his side, breath coming hard. 

Anger refilled him, overcame him. A shout of hate, raw and jagged, burst from his throat. Power went with it, shattering a nearby column and sending a rain of stone shards through the room.

Another Jedi stepped in front of him, blue blade held high. Malgus barely saw him. He simply extended a hand, pushed through the Jedi's insufficient defense, seized his throat with the Force, and choked him to death. Tossing the body aside, he moved towards Zallow.

Malgus spun into a high, Force-augmented kick that hit Zallow in the chest and sent him flying backward ten meters.

Malgus, burning with hate, flung his lightsaber at Zallow. He guided its trajectory with the Force, and it spun a sizzling path through the air as Zallow's neck. But Zallow, riding the momentum of his attack on the second Sith, leapt into the air and over the blade.
While Zallow was still in the air, Malgus unleashed a blast of energy that caught the Jedi unprepared and send him crashing downward into a pile of rubble.
Malgus did not hesitate. He mounted the column of his anger, shouting with hate, and leapt twenty meters into the air toward Zallow. Mid-jump, he used the Force to recall his blade to his hand, took a reverse two-handed grip, and prepared to pin Zallow to the Temple floor.

Seeing an opening, Zallow stepped forward and crosscut for Malgus throat.
As Malgus knew he would.
Malgus turned his blade vertical to parry the blow and spun out of the blade lock. Reversing his lightsaber during the spin, he rode it into a stab that pierced Zallow's abdomen and came out of the other side.

When the crowd did not respond to his demand, he slammed a fit into his palm and let anger-fueled power explode outward from his body. Screams sounded as the blast shoved everything away from him in all directions.
Bodies flew backward, slammed into one another, into the walls, against and through windows. The transport he'd rode in on lurched from the blast. The doors of the medical facility flew from their mounts and crashed to the ground.

A ROAR, heavy with hate and rage, pulled Aryn's eyes skyward. Malgus descended like a meteor. (Jumped from his ship 50 meters high)

Aryn fell fully into the force, raised her defenses, took a fighting stance, and parried Malgus's two-handed overhand slash. Still, he landed in a cocoon of power, hitting the ground in an explosion of might that shattered the stones around them and turned them into a hail f shrapnel.

The force of the Sith's blow made her arms quiver.

When she landed atop a large chunk of stone ten meters from the Sith, he made a cutting gesture with his free hand and two pieces of statuary rose from the rubble and rushed toward her from either side. She leapt into the air and they smashed into each other beneath her, sparying shards of rock.

Taking telekinetic hold of a large stone near Malgus, she flung it at him. He never moved, simply held his ground and split the incoming rock in two with his lightsaber.

She was unready for the blow. The Force-augmented impact exploded a spark of shower in her brain and sent her cartwheeling away from Malgus; she slammed into a rock and landed on her side ten meters away.

the Sith slapped aside Aryn's Force-hold on the blade and snatched it out of the air, as quick as a sand viper.

THE PURE HATE and raw rage poring off Malgus struck Aryn like a physical blow. She braced herslef against it as she might a hailstorm. She realized how strongly he felt for the Twi'lek, how he sublimated all of his emotions for her into hate and rage. 

Malgus bounced up from the somersault and loosed a telekinetic blast that lifted Aryn from her feet and blew her across the hanger. She slammed into one of the shuttle's bulkheads, but she used the Force to cushion the blow.

Malgu's strength drove her to her knees.

The strength behind the blow blew through her defenses, caused her to see stars, loosed teeth, and sent her head over heels backward. She landed on her knees, stunned, seeing double.

As Aryn prepared to leap at Malgus, he held forth a hand, almost casually, and lightning sizzled through the space between them. Aryn interposed her lightsabers, but the power in the lightning exceeded anything she had felt from Malgus before. It blasted through her defenses and both lightsabers flew from her hands. The lightning seized her, lifted her up, and threw her from the top of the shuttle.
As she flew toward the deck, she smelled burning flesh, heard screaming, realized that it was her flesh, her screams. She hit the ground hard and her head bounced off the ground. Sparks erupted om her brain, pain, and everything went dark.

He focused on keeping his Force signature suppressed. He did not want anyone to learn of his presence prematurely.

He drew on the Force, gestured as if he were shooing away insects, and sent both of the troopers flying against the wall of the manse hard enough to crack bone.

His Force-enhanced reflexes moved faster than their trigger fingers. Without slowing his pace, he pulled his lightsaber into his hand and activated it as he blasters discharged. The red line of his weapon spun so fast in his hand it expanded into a shield. 
Two of the blaster shots ricocheted off his weapon and into the ceiling. He deflected the other four back at the troopers, putting black holes through two chests and two face masks. Another two strides and a lunge brought him upon the surviving two troopers befor they could fire again. He crosscut, spun, and crosscut again, killing both.

Malgus interposed his lightsabe, drew the lightning to it, and started walking towards Adraas. The power swirled around the red blade, sizzling, crackling, pushed against Malgus, but he strode through it. The skin of his hands blistered but Malgus endured the pain, paid it as the price of his cause.

As he walked, he spun his blade in an arc above his head, gathering the lighting, then flung it back at Adraas. It slammed into his chest, lifted him bodily from the ground, and threw him hard against the far well.

Malgus held forth his hand and the rage within hm manifested in blue veins of lightning that discharged from his fingertips and slammed into Adraas. The power stopped Adraas's charge cold, blew his lightsaber from his hand, caught him up in a cage of burning lightning. He screamed, squirming in frustration and pain.

@JediXMan You said starkiller sucks at dueling?? Dude you just lost SOO many respect points.

I say Malgus for 1 and 3. Because Galen is sooooooooooooo crappy when it comes to dueling. He wins the force though.

1. Malgus

2. Galen

3. Malgus barely

He does.

Okay.

1. Malgus.

2. Galen.

3. It's close but I'm voting for Malgus, his durability and more skilled command of the Force would count for a lot despite the fact Galen is more powerful, and he's the better duelist which is one of the best advantages you can have in a fight.

Galen stomps

Round 1: Malgus ('cause Vader wrenched Starkiller's lightsabers right out of his hands)

Round 2: Starkiller ('cause he regularly commits OP Force feats that such a stale character shouldn't be capable of committing)

Round 3: Probably Starkiller (for driving Vader to rely on another clone of him just to ensure he'd make it out of the Battle of Kamino alive–then again, he only won by abusing his lightning, and Malgus isn't a cyborg, although I've heard he's weaker than Vader a few times)

I think sabers should be relatively close, and that's because pre-ANH Vader at least up until TFU 1 is slightly inferior to Malgus in skill feats. Namely Vader at this time is a master of all 7 forms, beaten An'ya Kuro, beaten Roan Shryne, multiple Jedi at once in RODV/his duel with Tsui Choi/enclave,but none of these Jedi really compare to Zallow/Satele overall. This is Vader still well before his prime mind you, but Malgus should still be able to best TFU 1 Vader in a hard fought match. A saber duel should be debatable between the two, though Galen has undoubtedly much greater latent potential and improved vastly from beating Kazdan, to Shaak Ti, to Vader at the end. It could go either way.

Galen's just massively more powerful and could hold Malgus off in sabers and just overpower him with superior telekinesis/lightning though. His raw power is watch gives him an advantage more so than any negligible difference in lightsaber skill

Unless this is a lightsabers only battle, Galen would beat any version of Malgus.

@andy_steven_summers: marek faced outta prime vader, fe malgus wins, decieved loses

@ordeith: vader was out of prime, preime vader was rebels, he was in his second best form in rebels, his skills had atrophied under the lack of dueling, sidious was not actively training him.

I'd say Galen wins an all-out fight against even FE Malgus.

@ordeith: Legends sources said this prior to rebels. legends is overwritten by canon, prime vader is now rebels vader

ince we're using composite Vader and arguing Galen Marek I assume we're going by Legends as Galen doesn't exist outside of this medium.

It means you use both and where applicable canon takes priority

He was coming into it by TFU.

He was a good decade or so away from rotj, he was not in his prime.

Neither of these characters exist outside of Legends (and, for the record, it's Legends Vader that I heard was stronger than Malgus–in some battle analyst's VS of them).

Galen in all, tbh. Not sure if it's that close either.

so? vader does exist in both canon and legends and canon > outdated legends

And since when was vs battle analyst's a source?

@andy_steven_summers:

fe malgus or decived

Malgus.

Indeed. Galen sweeps.

Galen.

@ordeith: dude, tfu happened BEFORE NEW HOPE tfu 2 happened BEFORE NEW HOPE

Dude if you're going to use a canon character to power scale a legends one, you have to use both for the character where both apply

@ordeith: rebels does not contradict tfu or stwor, you're using vader, you need to use compoite, aka both canon and legends

@kbroskywalker: The only one Starkiller's stronger than for certain is Legends (and it was Jensaarai1's video, from before Canon even existed–before the Canon/Legends split/"overwriting").

The video in question (uploaded June 3rd, 2013):

Starkiller would rip Darth Malgus a new a**hole. Starkiller wins

Starkiller one-shots, Galen wins with similar, though less laughable ease.

R1 Malgus 7/10

R2 if its SK then Sk 6.5/10 If its Galen then FE Malgus 6/10

R3 SK vs FE - SK 5.5-6/10 if its Galen vs FE Malgus then Malgus 6/10

@ordeith: The same reason everyone else does; either Starkiller has Malgus outclassed Force-wise, despite not being quite as skilled lightsaber duelists (and I just found out that Vader actually modified his suit between TFU and TFU2 for the sole purpose of resisting electrical current).

Marek stomps lol.

@ordeith: Mainly Malgus's durability is why i put him slightly over Galen, but he also in my eyes showed more power/control over his power then Galen did. Star Killer on the other hand has quite a bit more bite to his bark then Galen did. I'll list a few reasons i put Malgus close or over the different incarnations

1. Was able to beat a Jedi Battle master Kao Cen Durach in his first fight.

2. Was able to react faster then a battle meditated/ speed enhanced Satele Shan.

3. Has shown to kick people farther then some people can force push other force users.

Malgus spun into a high, Force-augmented kick that hit Zallow in the chest and sent him flying backward ten meters.

Source: Deceived

She was unready for the blow. The Force-augmented impact exploded a spark shower in her brain and sent her cartwheeling away from Malgus; she slammed into a rock and landed on her side ten meters away. Adrenaline pulled her to her feet, though she swayed unsteadily. She spat a mouthful of blood and held both lightsabers at the ready.

Source: Deceived

He vented his rage in a continuous roar as he unleashed a furious series of blows: an overhand slash that Adraas parried; a low stab that Adraas barely sidestepped; a side kick that connected to Adraas's side, broke ribs, and flung Adraas fully across the narrow axis of the hall. He crashed into a column and the impact split it as would lightning a tree.

Source: Deceived

Malgus loosed a furious series of overhand strikes that forced the Zabrak to retreat rapidly. Sidestepping a stab from the Jedi, Malgus rode his motion into a Force-augmented spinning side kick that hit the Jedi in the ribs and sent him cartwheeling into the wall of nearby building.Source: The Third Lesson

4. Has been able to keep fighting even with crippling injuries, and able to withstand expolsives, and powerful force blows and able to keep going.

Despite his wound, the Sith slapped aside Aryn’s Force-hold on the blade and snatched it out of the air, as quick as a sand viper.

Source: Deceived

Malgus stood in a pocket under a mountain of rubble, legs bent, the power from his upraised hands preventing several tons of duracrete and steel from crushing him. Dust made his already troubled breathing more difficult. He coughed as the words of his father echoed in his mind.

He'd been sloppy, so lost in his need for revenge that he'd failed to properly evaluate the Jedi's power. He'd surrendered his reason to bloodlust. But no more. With an effort of will, he contained his anger, controlled it, made it a whetstone against which he sharpened his power. Using the Force, he blew the rubble up and away from him. It fell with a crash into the adjacent buildings. A Force-augmented leap carried him out and over the heap. The Jedi's eyes widened as Malgus hit the street. Malgus sneered and charged.

Source: The Third Lesson

5. Has been able to take out a few star fighters just by force screaming at them.

The strength of my scream buckled the bridge's transparisteel viewport and left the crew's ears bleeding. More gratifyingly, my rage overloaded the fuel slugs of an incoming wave of Aureks. The bright bursts of their deaths raised a smile.

Source: Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side

Those are just some reasons.

Yes Galen has done some pretty impressive things to, but most people over blow his feats and accolades into something more. I see FE Malgus Vader level (higher or lower)

Thanks to @shootingnova for the sources.

@geistalt: yes, that was legends vader, the point is he was out of [rime, and as this is composite we look at all canon and legends material to assess what vader's prime was

@keikrosskira: the op still hasn't specified if its fe or decieved, decieved loses, fe wins.

I see fe malgus as between anakin and vader

@ordeith: checked the timeline, tfu happens 9-10 years prior to rotj, i was wrong to say over a decade but that is still a long long time.

@kbroskywalker: That video wasn't using composite Vader, 'cause Canon didn't exist at the time.

In short, Jensaarai1 claimed RotJ Vader (when Legends was all we had) > FE Malgus–and, as we all know, Galen roughly = TFU Vader.

That's what KeiKrossKira and I have been basing our points of view upon.