Darksied vs Gaunthlet ( One of OA guardians)

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#1  Edited By termiteone4ever

Morals off

No prep

Battle to the death

darkseid

VS

Gauntlet

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Well, I'm sure there's a good reason why the guardians stay out of Darkseid's business.

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#3  Edited By termiteone4ever

@AweSam said:

Well, I'm sure there's a good reason why the guardians stay out of Darkseid's business.

LOL that's good one lol . I always wondered why

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@termiteone4ever said:

@AweSam said:

Well, I'm sure there's a good reason why the guardians stay out of Darkseid's business.

LOL that's good one lol . I always wondered why

Well the reason was given isnt it. IIRC it was something like the universe is like a battery which needs to have positive and negative and darkseid represents the negative and he is essential to the universe (although he has been killed a couple of times, weird right). Its the same reason why Spectre couldnt kill DS as well.

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@Killemall said:

@termiteone4ever said:

@AweSam said:

Well, I'm sure there's a good reason why the guardians stay out of Darkseid's business.

LOL that's good one lol . I always wondered why

Well the reason was given isnt it. IIRC it was something like the universe is like a battery which needs to have positive and negative and darkseid represents the negative and he is essential to the universe (although he has been killed a couple of times, weird right). Its the same reason why Spectre couldnt kill DS as well.

In Cosmic Odyssey, the reason given is that Apokolips and New Genesis exist in another universe so the Guardians had never contacted them before. Later on, I think that got retconned in a Green Lantern 80 page giant issue where the Green Lantern Corps wages a war against apokolips. However, after observing Apokolips, the Guardians ultimately decided that Darkseid was the only one fit to rule that planet and they made a truce.

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@MrDirector786 said:

@Killemall said:

@termiteone4ever said:

@AweSam said:

Well, I'm sure there's a good reason why the guardians stay out of Darkseid's business.

LOL that's good one lol . I always wondered why

Well the reason was given isnt it. IIRC it was something like the universe is like a battery which needs to have positive and negative and darkseid represents the negative and he is essential to the universe (although he has been killed a couple of times, weird right). Its the same reason why Spectre couldnt kill DS as well.

In Cosmic Odyssey, the reason given is that Apokolips and New Genesis exist in another universe so the Guardians had never contacted them before. Later on, I think that got retconned in a Green Lantern 80 page giant issue where the Green Lantern Corps wages a war against apokolips. However, after observing Apokolips, the Guardians ultimately decided that Darkseid was the only one fit to rule that planet and they made a truce.

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Oh there were so many reasons i heard but this is first time i have seen a scan why

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#7  Edited By Killemall

@MrDirector786: Thank you, but i do remember seeing the battery part too, may be they have just given too many reasons :)

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@Killemall: That was the explanation given for why the Spectre wasn't allowed to kill him in Spectre 19. As you mentioned, it is contradicted elsewhere by Darkseid actually dying. It also feels incomplete to me; Darkseid is listed as the "negative" charge, but who's the positive? Highfather is the obvious counterpart to Darkseid, but when he died, no one even tried to claim the universe couldn't function without him. Darkseid also isn't very old compared to life in the universe, so he couldn't have always been the negative charge, and I also have to wonder simply, why him? Darkseid is not the most evil character in DC, nor the most powerful character that happens to be evil.

I kind of feel that making him the "god of evil" is not really what Kirby was going for, and kind of misses the point of the character. He should probably be viewed more as a god of despotism, tyranny, or dystopia. He doesn't do evil for the sake of evil, he does evil for the sake of power. "God of evil" is too easy and too generic.

Alternately, you can just go with Darkseid's view of himself, "Darkseid IS."

Regarding the actual fight, I'm honestly not sure what the Guardians are capable of these days. I don't think they ever had a lot of feats, and lately they've seemed pretty impotent. Plus, isn't Ganthet the Guardian of the Blue Lanterns now? Those guys can't really do anything at all without a GL to back them. Probably doesn't apply to him personally as much, but I don't know if I would assume he's the same as he was beforehand. He needed Hal to make him an honorary GL in Blackest Night to actually become effective, didn't he?

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#9  Edited By niwiley

It seems as the spectrum of light became shattered maybe the guardians power dimmed. It also seems as if everyone and their Mom has a ring or is omnipotent these days, so bringing the power level down to something that is understandable or being able to take them out of the equation, lends to the story telling, which is what we all really want in the end.

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#10  Edited By jeanroygrant

Gantlet.