#1 Posted by Spartan101 (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok Darkseid takes hulks place here in this fist fight from the hulk saga.,,first to ko or kill.

,,,vs,,

#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeus.

If Superman can do it...Zeus can too!

#3 Posted by silverlord90 (221 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Zeus.

If Superman can do it...Zeus can too!

Nuff said.

#4 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

What's Zeus' best H2H feat? Rockin' Hulk?

#5 Edited by spiderbuck (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

What's Zeus' best H2H feat? Rockin' Hulk?

He beat the brakes off of Hulk, like a grown man spanking a disobedient child.

Zeus, ftw.

#6 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5499 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid isn't a warrior so much as he's a Dictator/Stratigist. Zeus is a warrior and fought in a battle that lasted years (His war agaist his fathers family the Titans). He should have the strength and skill to defeat Darkseid but it wont be easy. He'll most likely have to charge his fist with lightning lie he did to Hulk recently.

#7 Posted by BigCimmerian (8017 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeus wins easily

#8 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2896 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeus

#9 Posted by entropy_aegis (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

WTH is this? Darkseid tears his beard off.@spiderbuck said:

@texasdeathmatch said:

What's Zeus' best H2H feat? Rockin' Hulk?

He beat the brakes off of Hulk, like a grown man spanking a disobedient child.

Zeus, ftw.

and Darkseid could'nt?@Guardiandevil83 said:

Darkseid isn't a warrior so much as he's a Dictator/Stratigist. Zeus is a warrior and fought in a battle that lasted years (His war agaist his fathers family the Titans). He should have the strength and skill to defeat Darkseid but it wont be easy. He'll most likely have to charge his fist with lightning lie he did to Hulk recently.

Darkseid has more combat feats than Zeus can ever dream about.

#10 Posted by SirMethos (1321 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

Darkseid has more combat feats than Zeus can ever dream about.

And yet, you don't actually provide any of said feats.

Simply saying "he has feats!", is totally and completely useless, unless you actually back it up.

Show some scans, describe the feats and provide the issues in which they can be found, anything concrete, that will back up your statement, otherwise your statement is just a waste of time and space.

#11 Edited by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@SirMethos: Whoah, lot of unnecessary hostility there...
 
I mean to be real, I think Darkseid has had a lot more on panel combat feats than Zeus. Now I'm not going to spend 20 min trying to dig up all of the Darkseid scans, since I'm pretty sure its well known that he has a lot more appearances than Zeus. 
 
So I'm not sure why you're attacking entropy when no one who backed up Zeus has provided anything, except that he has beaten Hulk, which really isn't that impressive compared to Darkseid.
#12 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch: He's also beaten the Avengers pretty easily. I'm just waiting for the eventual post of Zeus tanking a blast from Galactus to surface, since people either don't know or will blatantly ignore that the Zeus in that picture was actually Mikaboshi using his body as a sock puppet.

Honestly there's not much in terms of concrete feats that places Zeus above Darkseid, just his "skyfather" status and the statements that he and Odin are equals. Based on who he's supposed to be rather than what he's actually done, Zeus would win.

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#13 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeus...

#14 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane: Yeah, I've never been crazy about the whole Darkseid having avatars after writers realized Superman shouldn't have been able to beat Darkseid so easily. Physically, I would think Zeus is more powerful, but like what you said, there aren't too many concrete feats of him.  

Although, is there a significant difference between pre-52 Darkseid and current DS?
#15 Posted by Illuminatus (9503 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:
@CitizenBane: Yeah, I've never been crazy about the whole Darkseid having avatars after writers realized Superman shouldn't have been able to beat Darkseid so easily. Physically, I would think Zeus is more powerful, but like what you said, there aren't too many concrete feats of him.   Although, is there a significant difference between pre-52 Darkseid and current DS?
Current Darkseid made Superman yelp like a little girl. Was freakin' priceless.
#16 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch: Too early to tell. He only has one showing so far, where he one-shotted Superman, wrecked Green Lantern and whaled on the Justice League before they used his own Mother Box to BFR him. The biggest difference now is that they gave him a daughter for some reason (he came to Earth because he was searching for her). Pre-Flashpoint, he had several sons but no daughters.

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#17 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@Illuminatus: @CitizenBane: Damn nice, thanks guys.
#18 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@texasdeathmatch: He's also beaten the Avengers pretty easily. I'm just waiting for the eventual post of Zeus tanking a blast from Galactus to surface, since people either don't know or will blatantly ignore that the Zeus in that picture was actually Mikaboshi using his body as a sock puppet.

Honestly there's not much in terms of concrete feats that places Zeus above Darkseid, just his "skyfather" status and the statements that he and Odin are equals. Based on who he's supposed to be rather than what he's actually done, Zeus would win.

Do you have scans of him fighting the avengers? I hadn't seen that

#19 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: No, unfortunately.

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#20 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: it's not a big deal, thanks

#21 Posted by Illuminatus (9503 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said: 

Do you have scans of him fighting the avengers? I hadn't seen that

I've seen it in a previous thread (might have been the Zeus vs. Thanos thread). Judging by the art depicted, it had to be from the 70's or 80's.
#22 Posted by jashro44 (20530 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper: I don't have the scans but in this video you can see it.
 
  
#23 Posted by SirMethos (1321 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch: No hostility at all. Just stating some facts, though I do have a tendency to be blunt(or so I've been told). And fact is, that as his post stands, it's basically just a waste of space.

As for why I responded directly to him, not including the people defending Zeus. Quite simple, none of them came off sounding like a fanboy. He did.

I completely agree with you, that Darkseid has far more on panel combat showings(I can even think of a few that shows more skill than any showing from Zeus). But as I already said, without anything to back it up, random statements like that are pretty much useless.

If you don't have any scans, or can provide issues of the comics where the feats are, so people can check for themselves, then the least you can do is put up some logical arguments(as you yourself did)(though even if you can't be arsed digging for scans, it shouldn't really be that hard to provide a few comics issues, so people can look for themselves).

#24 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: @vuviper: @Illuminatus: Here it is.

Zeus VS Avengers

Part 1

http://i.imagehost.org/view/0651/AvengersV1_283-21
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0544/AvengersV1_283-22
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0943/AvengersV1_283-23
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http://i.imagehost.org/view/0855/AvengersV1_284-16
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0655/AvengersV1_284-17
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0053/AvengersV1_284-18

Part 2

http://i.imagehost.org/view/0962/AvengersV1_284-19
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0361/AvengersV1_284-20
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0661/AvengersV1_284-21
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0065/AvengersV1_284-22
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0428/Avengers285-01
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0871/Avengers285-02
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0773/Avengers285-07
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0674/Avengers285-08
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0584/Avengers285-09
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0880/Avengers285-10

Part 3

http://i.imagehost.org/view/0284/Avengers285-11
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0677/Avengers285-12
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0581/Avengers285-13
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0994/Avengers285-14
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0287/Avengers285-15
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0184/Avengers285-16
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0588/Avengers285-17
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0489/Avengers285-18

Picks Up Mountain

http://imageshack.us/f/39/incrediblehercules14100.jpg/

Beats Up Hulk

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863057/Incredible_Hulks_622_005.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863060/Incredible_Hulks_622_006.jpg.html
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http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863064/Incredible_Hulks_622_010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863066/Incredible_Hulks_622_011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863067/Incredible_Hulks_622_012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863170/Incredible_Hulks_622_013.jpg.html
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http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863175/Incredible_Hulks_622_017.jpg.html

#25 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Thanks

@jeanroygrant: Thanks, though that was much larger than it needed to be

#26 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid oneshotted Superman. He beat a weary OWAW Superman bloody in three hits.

I still think Zeus has this, but I believe it's closer than people think. Darkseid's loss to Superman was a low end showing for him.

#27 Posted by AssertingValor (5386 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@SirMethos: Whoah, lot of unnecessary hostility there... I mean to be real, I think Darkseid has had a lot more on panel combat feats than Zeus. Now I'm not going to spend 20 min trying to dig up all of the Darkseid scans, since I'm pretty sure its well known that he has a lot more appearances than Zeus. So I'm not sure why you're attacking entropy when no one who backed up Zeus has provided anything, except that he has beaten Hulk, which really isn't that impressive compared to Darkseid.
#28 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: I meant with the font

#29 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper said:

@jeanroygrant: I meant with the font

Oh, my bad.

#30 Posted by jashro44 (20530 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper: No problem.
#31 Posted by demifiendninja (299 posts) - - Show Bio

thor loses

#32 Posted by entropy_aegis (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

@entropy_aegis said:

Darkseid has more combat feats than Zeus can ever dream about.

And yet, you don't actually provide any of said feats.

Simply saying "he has feats!", is totally and completely useless, unless you actually back it up.

Show some scans, describe the feats and provide the issues in which they can be found, anything concrete, that will back up your statement, otherwise your statement is just a waste of time and space.

Yes cause your post was so informative and enlightening,there are tons of Darkseid scans where he displays physical ability easily exceeding Zeus,the reason I did'nt provide them was because it was obvious.Now maybe you should us some awesome feats for this mighty skyfather.

#33 Posted by SirMethos (1321 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: You're right, my initial post was informative. It informed people that statements should be backed up by proof of some kind, or(if you include my second post) at least logical arguments. Neither of which the post of your that I addressed had.

As for your second point, if you'd bothered to do a minimal amount of actual reading, you would have noticed that I actually agree that Darkseid would be the winner of the match(I even stated that outright in my second post). My response was not because I disagreed, it was purely addressed at the manner of posting, not the opinion. But I guess basic things like reading before posting, is beyond some people.

As I've told other people on the forums, you get treated as you act. You act like an idiot, you get treated like one. In this case, you were acting like a fanboy, and got treated like one.

Don't like it? Don't act like an idiot(or a fanboy), it's really not that difficult. :)

#34 Posted by entropy_aegis (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

@entropy_aegis: You're right, my initial post was informative. It informed people that statements should be backed up by proof of some kind, or(if you include my second post) at least logical arguments. Neither of which the post of your that I addressed had.

As for your second point, if you'd bothered to do a minimal amount of actual reading, you would have noticed that I actually agree that Darkseid would be the winner of the match(I even stated that outright in my second post). My response was not because I disagreed, it was purely addressed at the manner of posting, not the opinion. But I guess basic things like reading before posting, is beyond some people.

As I've told other people on the forums, you get treated as you act. You act like an idiot, you get treated like one. In this case, you were acting like a fanboy, and got treated like one.

Don't like it? Don't act like an idiot(or a fanboy), it's really not that difficult. :)

And yet you chose me of all people, conveniently ignoring all those who said Zeus wins without any thing to back it up.

And where exactly did you say that Darkseid would win?

Finally who are YOU to tell anyone? you're not a mod or a staff member or even a paid member.If you wanna show your junk then show it to people around you not someone on a forum.

#35 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

You're right, my initial post was informative. It informed people that statements should be backed up by proof of some kind, or(if you include my second post) at least logical arguments. Neither of which the post of your that I addressed had.

No, it didn't. All it did was make you look like a hypocrite. No one had posted feats at that point, no one had asked for feats and yet you go bashing Entropy.

As for your second point, if you'd bothered to do a minimal amount of actual reading, you would have noticed that I actually agree that Darkseid would be the winner of the match(I even stated that outright in my second post).

Nowhere to be seen.

My response was not because I disagreed, it was purely addressed at the manner of posting, not the opinion.

What'd you know about Entropy posting. "Adressing the manner of posting"? Entropy's proven countless times as a debater.

But I guess basic things like reading before posting, is beyond some people.

Entropy is one of the most knowledgeable people onsite. But I guess simple things

As I've told other people on the forums, you get treated as you act. You act like an idiot, you get treated like one. In this case, you were acting like a fanboy, and got treated like one.
Don't like it? Don't act like an idiot(or a fanboy), it's really not that difficult. :)

He didn't act like an idiot. You, on the other hand, are acting like a complete idiot.

#36 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorznb said:

Zeus...

#37 Posted by SirMethos (1321 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis:

"And yet you chose me of all people, conveniently ignoring all those who said Zeus wins without any thing to back it up." Yes, and I even explained why, in my second post :)

"And where exactly did you say that Darkseid would win?" In my second post, where I responded to Texasdeathmatch.

"Finally who are YOU to tell anyone?" I'll refer you to this, http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/300-spartan-vs-edward-cullen/639585/#84

I already had that debate/argument with Baberaham_Lincoln, I don't really see any need to repeat myself.

@ReVamp:

"No, it didn't. All it did was make you look like a hypocrite. No one had posted feats at that point, no one had asked for feats and yet you go bashing Entropy."

It didn't inform people that statements should be backed up by proof of some kind?

"Simply saying "he has feats!", is totally and completely useless, unless you actually back it up.

Show some scans, describe the feats and provide the issues in which they can be found, anything concrete, that will back up your statement, otherwise your statement is just a waste of time and space."

"f you don't have any scans, or can provide issues of the comics where the feats are, so people can check for themselves, then the least you can do is put up some logical arguments(as you yourself did)(though even if you can't be arsed digging for scans, it shouldn't really be that hard to provide a few comics issues, so people can look for themselves)."

I'll repeat my earlier comment: I guess basic things like reading before posting, is beyond some people.

"Nowhere to be seen."

"I completely agree with you, that Darkseid has far more on panel combat showings(I can even think of a few that shows more skill than any showing from Zeus). But as I already said, without anything to back it up, random statements like that are pretty much useless."

I would repeat my earlier comment about reading, but it seems redundant at this point.

"What'd you know about Entropy posting. "Adressing the manner of posting"? Entropy's proven countless times as a debater."

As I mentioned in my debate/argument with Baberaham_Lincoln(linked to, earlier in this post), I can only judge on what I see. The only thing I saw in this case, was a guy posting like a fanboy, and I responded to that. If he is actually an experienced debater as you say, then I shouldn't have had to point out the need for proof to back up his statements in the first place. That just makes his initial post seem that much more stupid.

"Entropy is one of the most knowledgeable people onsite. But I guess simple things"

Good for him, but that doesn't matter one way or the other, when he's posting in a way that makes him look like a fanboy.

"He didn't act like an idiot. You, on the other hand, are acting like a complete idiot."

And if you actually read the post, I didn't at any point say that he acted like an idiot. I said he acted like a fanboy, which he did. :) and again, "if you don't want to get treated like a fanboy, then don't act like one.", it's really not that difficult.

That said, I'll put up some h2h scans for Darkseid in the next post(there are some problems with posting large amounts of text, and images in the same post)

#38 Posted by SirMethos (1321 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid fighting Orion:

#39 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

Excessive amount of words =/= Actually stating something

#40 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not sure at what point making a complete ass of yourself became a virtue.

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#41 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

It didn't inform people that statements should be backed up by proof of some kind?

Its an opinion.

Simply saying "he has feats!", is totally and completely useless, unless you actually back it up.

Expressing an opinion is never useless and when stating things which are of common knolwedge you don't have to post feats, otherwise every thread would have to have a spam of scans at the begging saying "DID YOU KNOW SUPERMAN CAN USE SUPER-STRENGTH? SEE, HE PICKED UP A CAR".

Show some scans, describe the feats and provide the issues in which they can be found, anything concrete, that will back up your statement, otherwise your statement is just a waste of time and space."

No, its not a complete waste of my time, at all. So your statement is subjective, and thus you're not approaching this from a factual perspective.

"f you don't have any scans, or can provide issues of the comics where the feats are, so people can check for themselves, then the least you can do is put up some logical arguments(as you yourself did)(though even if you can't be arsed digging for scans, it shouldn't really be that hard to provide a few comics issues, so people can look for themselves)."
I'll repeat my earlier comment: I guess basic things like reading before posting, is beyond some people.

You can repeat your comments all you want, you didn't make the rules and yet you think that your word is law here all of a sudden.

"I completely agree with you, that Darkseid has far more on panel combat showings(I can even think of a few that shows more skill than any showing from Zeus). But as I already said, without anything to back it up, random statements like that are pretty much useless."
I would repeat my earlier comment about reading, but it seems redundant at this point.

That was only after you critizised Entropy... So I have no idea how this is relevant.

As I mentioned in my debate/argument with Baberaham_Lincoln(linked to, earlier in this post), I can only judge on what I see. The only thing I saw in this case, was a guy posting like a fanboy, and I responded to that. If he is actually an experienced debater as you say, then I shouldn't have had to point out the need for proof to back up his statements in the first place. That just makes his initial post seem that much more stupid.

How was it even fanboyish ? It was an opinion. Furthermore, no one cares about your debate with Baberaham, you think that making one debate qualifies you as anything?

Good for him, but that doesn't matter one way or the other, when he's posting in a way that makes him look like a fanboy.

It doesn't, only to some random new user who thinks he can criticize one of the best debaters on site and yet has nothing to prove he's an average debater, much less a good one.

And if you actually read the post, I didn't at any point say that he acted like an idiot. I said he acted like a fanboy, which he did. :) and again, "if you don't want to get treated like a fanboy, then don't act like one.", it's really not that difficult.

He didn't act like a fanboy, and fanboys are idiots.

That said, I'll put up some h2h scans for Darkseid in the next post(there are some problems with posting large amounts of text, and images in the same post)

Oh. Good for you. Now, you decide its a good ideas to drop scans.

#42 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp: Haha I don't even know why you bother, clearly he's got issues. I'm pretty sure he's spent the last 10 minutes writing a response, good luck with that.
#43 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@ReVamp: Haha I don't even know why you bother, clearly he's got issues. I'm pretty sure he's spent the last 10 minutes writing a response, good luck with that.

...God knows why I do what I do. But then again, I remember that people had patience with me when I first joined.

#44 Posted by SirMethos (1321 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp:

"Expressing an opinion is never useless and when stating things which are of common knolwedge you don't have to post feats, otherwise every thread would have to have a spam of scans at the begging saying "DID YOU KNOW SUPERMAN CAN USE SUPER-STRENGTH? SEE, HE PICKED UP A CAR"."

Partially true.

In a debate, stating your opinion is pretty much useless without backing it up. Unless you want to claim that some opinions are worth more than others.

If you create a match, let's say Batman vs. Captain America, and I simply post "Captain America wins.", all I have done, is post my opinion, and that post is completely useless. If I back it up with a logical argument, say "Captain America wins, he is stronger, faster, more durable and has far more stamina.", then it's suddenly a post that has some use, but in order for the post to be of any use in a debate, I have to make certain statements, in this case, that Cap is physically superior. Without any kind of proof to back up that/those claims, it's still pretty much useless.

It's true that there is no use for proof when stating things that are common knowledge, like Superman being able to fly. But to use our current example, Darkseid being the superior fighter, is obviously not "common knowledge", otherwise there wouldn't be anyone(aside from the occasional fanboy) saying that Zeus wins, thus the need for proof(scans or comics issues).

"No, its not a complete waste of my time, at all. So your statement is subjective, and thus you're not approaching this from a factual perspective."

I believe I already addressed that point.

"You can repeat your comments all you want, you didn't make the rules and yet you think that your word is law here all of a sudden."

No, I didn't make the rules, but I do try to follow them:

"If you think a character wins, elaborate a bit. What allows them to win? Superior power? Superior skill? Have they fought in the comics? Recall any feats that help in comics?" - The Battles Bible. http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/the-battles-bible-mandatory-reading-before-posting/662522/#79

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/feats-and-how-to-use-them/626504/#19

"That was only after you critizised Entropy... So I have no idea how this is relevant."

It is relevant because I put that quote as a direct response to your comment. I said that I had posted, that I actually agree that Darkseid wins, and you said that that was "Nowhere to be seen."

"How was it even fanboyish ? It was an opinion. Furthermore, no one cares about your debate with Baberaham, you think that making one debate qualifies you as anything?"

How was it fanboyish? Have you even read his initial post? All he said was "WTH is this, Darkseid his beard off. Darkseid has more combat feats than Zeus can even dream of."

I've seen pretty much identical posts from a ton of fanboys over the last few years.

As for my debate/argument with Baberaham, the debate was about the exact same thing that we are debating right now. I.e. my treating him, based on what I saw from him. I linked to that debate, because I have already(in that debate) addressed several of the points made by yourself and entropy in this one. Since I see no real reason to repeat myself, it was easier to simply link to that debate. Hell, even the question you just asked, was pretty much addressed in that debate.

"It doesn't, only to some random new user who thinks he can criticize one of the best debaters on site and yet has nothing to prove he's an average debater, much less a good one."

And if I had actually seen some of his past debates, then I might think of him that way as well. But so far, all I have seen, is a post that, with no prior knowledge, makes him look like a fanboy, as well as his responses in this thread. He might be one of the best debaters around here, but so far, in this thread, he definitely hasn't shown it. Quite the contrary.

"He didn't act like a fanboy, and fanboys are idiots."

Yes, he did. I'll refer you to my earlier comment about that.

"Oh. Good for you. Now, you decide its a good ideas to drop scans."

Well, yes, since I actually made some statements about the outcome of the match, I had to back those statements up. Something neither yourself nor Entropy has actually done at this point. :)

#45 Edited by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say DS takes this matchup.

His loss to Superman is a low low showing for him.

Zeus smacking around Hulk isnt terribly impressive considering DS is Superman's equal or possibly his better when it comes down to strength.

Darkseid's reaction time has been shown to be superior to Kryptonian reaction time.

Darkseid has been shown to be a very effiicient and capable fighter several times over. Beating Superman and the JL on a regular basis proves his combat skill (He was absolutely wailing on them before getting BFR'ed in their most recent confrontation) The problem is he thinks h2h combat is "beneath him" and therefore prefers to use his Omega Effect to deal with enemies.

Both are Skyfather's, but Darkseid is the stronger of the two IMO

#46 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeus hes a skyfather nobody is beating him.