@cosmicallyaware1: It means to use a version of that character before they changed his/hers past usually to nullify feats making him/her weaker. Example pre-retcon beyonder was on the same level as TOAA in secret wars later on they change it so secret wars never happens they way it originally was told and he that he was half a cosmic cube then further changed it making him an inhuman. Here's another site explaining it in better detail Four Post down is where he explains it. As for the word Pre-retcon it's self it means before retroactive continuity
Edit To add MM wins and to clarify a little a retcon is when Event A nullifies event B making it as if it never happened. Pre-retcon is when event A was still valid and event B never took place.
i've always wondered...........what does "pre-retcon" mean????
To add a little bit more to what he said, specifically regarding Molecule Man: pre-recton MM usually refers to the MM during the end of Secret Wars I and throughout Secret Wars II. During this time he was the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe other than the Beyonder. Afterward, he was retconned to be much less powerful: he and the Beyonder each shared half the power of a Cosmic Cube. This is still pretty powerful, but nowhere near as much as before. Ironically, the Secret Wars I and II era Molecule Man (a.k.a. pre-retcon Molecule Man) was himself essentially a retcon (or perhaps reconceptualization) of his previous incarnation, in which he could only (usually) affect inorganic molecules. So Molecule Man has had at least 3 levels of power (more, really, but those are the main three).
In this battle, pre-retcon MM wipes the floor with Darkseid. I think post-retcon MM also beats him handily--especially the Darkseid who appeared in Justice League recently. Even original (inorganic only) MM might beat him, although if we bring character into account, clearly Darkseid has the dominant character and may well just browbeat original MM into submission through sheer force of personality.
Depends on the versions. PR MM > DS, PC DS > current MM.
Current MM = Pre-Retcon MM
He is the source of all of God Doom's power.
Then how in gods name did Sentry beat him? Just the PIS machine firing up?
Bendis was responsible, and I swear that man has never read a comic by another writer, he just figured "this Molecule guy is pretty strong, eh? Not as strong as Sentry though.. probably"
Depends on the versions. PR MM > DS, PC DS > current MM.
Current MM = Pre-Retcon MM
He is the source of all of God Doom's power.
Then how in gods name did Sentry beat him? Just the PIS machine firing up?
Bendis was responsible, and I swear that man has never read a comic by another writer, he just figured "this Molecule guy is pretty strong, eh? Not as strong as Sentry though.. probably"
That actually sounds like a very, very accurate representation of his writing.
@kokemabb200: Bendis was responsible, and I swear that man has never read a comic by another writer, he just figured "this Molecule guy is pretty strong, eh? Not as strong as Sentry though.. probably"
@finalbeta Darkseid and Thanos are pretty close in power, but Thanos is probably slightly stronger IMO. Darkseid often gets wanked, a prime example of this is DEATH BATTLE! Just look at the comment section of that video, literally almost everyone wanks Darkseid to be Galactus level. I found someone who literally said Darkseid is more powerful than Eternity, not even kidding. The same goes with Apocalypse and Doomsday. They get wanked just as badly.
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