@WillPayton said:
Superman surviving OB is because he cant die and is protected by the Presence or some other nonsense. DS normally slaps Superman around.
No, Superman survives because he is tough enough to take it. I have never seen the "protected by the Source" rationale ever presented or even hinted at in an actual comic, nor have I ever seen a poster who used it actually provide evidence that it is real. As far as I can tell, it is a fan-created justification for how the Omega Effect could possibly fail to destroy someone Darkseid's fans are all convinced, a priori, must be vastly inferior to him.
DS and Superman have had several encounters. Most of them are either brief exchanges with only superficial damage inflicted at most or stalemates before being interrupted. Superman does have a few actual wins over Darkseid though, and vice-versa. Overall though, Superman has held up against Darkseid long enough, often enough, for them to be considered roughly in the same combat tier. Superman is definitely strong enough to harm Darkseid with his blows, and he is fast enough to both land said blows, and even evade the Omega Effect on a good day. His durability is also high enough to tank some physical hits from Darkseid, as well as the Omega Beams for a bit.
Darkseid is just overmatched here. Between Thor, BRB, Warlock, and SS, I really don't see why the group could not mount a defense against the Omega Beams; we have many high end energy manipulators and absorbers here, along with plenty of raw power. Although dropping Gladiator to 50% confidence (whatever that means; I'll just assume 50% power for simplicity) makes him kind of useless, since normally he's around Thor's level physically.
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