Darkseid Vs. Juggernaut (READ OP)

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#1 Edited By odinforce

Darkseid

Vs.

Juggernaut

RULES/SETTINGS:

ROUND 1:
- The fight takes place in Asgard.
- NO BFR. Victory by killing, submission, or K.O.
- JUGGERNAUT IS CLASSIC JUGGERNAUT
- DARKSEID IS NEW EARTH DARKSEID
- No prep, morals off, all bloodlusted.

ROUND 2:
- The fight takes place in the Batcave
- NO BFR. Victory by killing, submission, or K.O.
- JUGGERNAUT IS WWHULK JUGGERNAUT
- DARKSEID IS CURRENT/NORMAL DARKSEID
- No prep, morals off, all bloodlusted
- No one can leave the area, so this is a very close hand battle

ROUND 3:
- Arm-wrestling match!
- Both bloodlusted, morals off
- Takes place in a room made completely of an adamantium/vibranium alloy

ROUND 4:
- The fight takes place in Apokalips
- NO BFR, Victory by killing, submission, or K.O.
- JUGGERNAUT IS TRION JUGGERNAUT
- DARKSEID IS PRE-CRISIS
- No prep, morals off, all bloodusted

Who wins each round and why?

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weaponxxx

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#2 Edited By weaponxxx

I think Darkseid takes the first three with Trion Juggernaut beating him in Round 4

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odinforce

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#3 Edited By odinforce

anyone else want to add anything?

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#4 Edited By LONGTIME

@weaponxxx said:

" I think Darkseid takes the first three with Trion Juggernaut beating him in Round 4 "

How? Juggernaut can't be killed or K.O.

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#5 Edited By odinforce

@LONGTIME: thats what i was thinking

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#6 Edited By Cypher's Gambit

Without BFR how is Darksied going to win?

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#7 Edited By entropy_aegis

@Cypher's Gambit said:

"Without BFR how is Darksied going to win? "

I dont know?umm maybe he starts tapping in to his own power or momentarily strips him away long enough to secure the kill.

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#8 Edited By odinforce

@entropy_aegis: strip juggernaut's power?

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#9 Edited By entropy_aegis

@odinforce said:

" @entropy_aegis: strip juggernaut's power? "

Tap in to it like he did with mordru and time trapper.

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#10 Edited By odinforce

@entropy_aegis: hhmmm interesting

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#11 Edited By nefarious

I'm sure the Omega Beams can affect Juggernaut in some way....

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odinforce

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#12 Edited By odinforce

@Nefarious: arent the omega beams mainly bfr?

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#13 Edited By Valtot

@odinforce:
no- they can also inflict massive pain, matter manipulation, space-time travel as obviously for the BFR status to any point in the universe even other universes, hmm he can physically make himself a giant which should amp his strength greatly over what it already is, maybe genetic manipulation as i remember darkseid trying to hurt superman with a omega blast that attacked his genetic code or something like that or was it just transmutation with the blast which goes into the matter manipulation. But anyway is juggernaught immune to matter manipulation? if he was immune to it darkseid could get rid of juggernaughts helmet and mind rape him

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#14 Edited By Lance Bastro

@Nefarious said:

" I'm sure the Omega Beams can affect Juggernaut in some way.... "

yes by affecting the area around juggernaut. in the cross over the omega effect didn't do anything to him.

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#15 Edited By Valtot

@Lance Bastro:
cross overs aernt canon and i just listed a bunch of ways the omega beams could hurt and other ways he could hurt juggernaught such as mind rape

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#16 Edited By Lance Bastro

@Valtot said:

" @Lance Bastro: cross overs aernt canon and i just listed a bunch of ways the omega beams could hurt and other ways he could hurt juggernaught such as mind rape "

it is non cannon but at the same time relevant because some people are not aware of juggernaut's other capabilities.

@Valtot said:

" @odinforce: no- they can also inflict massive pain, matter manipulation, space-time travel as obviously for the BFR status to any point in the universe even other universes"

the only force that can physically cause juggernaut pain is above skyfather magic. but even if it hurts him it doesn't matter because juggernaut has a healing/regeneration ability that is beyond deadpool's. he's pretty much immortal or dare i say eternal depending on his league with cyttorak.

@Valtot said:

" @odinforce: hmm he can physically make himself a giant which should amp his strength greatly over what it already is "

juggernaut grows 500 feet taller than the 100 foot ctk

@Valtot said:

" @odinforce: maybe genetic manipulation as i remember darkseid trying to hurt superman with a omega blast that attacked his genetic code or something like that or was it just transmutation with the blast which goes into the matter manipulation. But anyway is juggernaught immune to matter manipulation?"

juggernaut can shrink things. juggernaut vs nightmare.

@Valtot said:

" @odinforce: if he was immune to it darkseid could get rid of juggernaughts helmet and mind rape him "

that's legit.

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#17 Edited By Valtot

@Lance Bastro:
if your talking trion juggernaught i know darkseid couldnt beat him with the setup on that round but the scans of him growing and the one after that are trion juggernaught normal or classic doesnt have ascess to that level power,

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Lance Bastro

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#18 Edited By Lance Bastro

@Valtot said:

" @Lance Bastro: if your talking trion juggernaught i know darkseid couldnt beat him with the setup on that round but the scans of him growing and the one after that are trion juggernaught normal or classic doesnt have ascess to that level power, "

those scans are not trion juggernaut. trion juggernaut is even more crazy because he tears through realities by walking and punching air.

classic juggernaut has a tiny fraction of the crimson cosmos. aside from his limitless invulnerability, he is limited to accessing more powers depending on how he invokes his master. trion juggernaut uses a greater amount on the crimson energy.

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#19 Edited By Lance Bastro

see, juggernaut's source of power is limitless. according to marvel HQ.

the trion recognizes that the power of the crimson cosmos was the ONLY power that could destroy their extra dimensional universe.

despyare was utilizing juggernaut's portion of power to larger effects.

means this....

juggernaut's wrap sheet provides.

entities that juggernaut has battled with and could not destroy him.

nightmare (who in that arc defeated eternity and stole dr. strange's eye of agamotto but could not defeat juggernaut)
d'spyare (who had the power to control the universe w/o the IG thought he defeated the juggernaut but hadn't)
dr. strange (who was powerful enough to negate the IG and truths with the living tribunal as sorerer supreme, but he needed help from cyttorak to defeat the juggernaut)
obvion (who is the master of the gateway to nothingness can not blink juggernaut out of existence)
doramarru (who was trying to hide from the juggernaut because doramarru knows he's bad news)
thor (who could not defeat the juggernaut so he have to summon the odinforce to open a portal that juggernaut accidently fell into and got back out after ruling the dimension of limbo)
beyonder who could not blink juggernaut out of existence so he left him on an asteroid in some unknown part of space.
he also fought bare fisted with stranger.

just from these facts, makes it very hard to believe that darksied can even stand a ghost of a chance against juggernaut without BFR. unless by telepathy.

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#20 Edited By deactivated-60d8e8271946e

Round 1 - Darkseid
Round 2 - Darkseid
Round 3 - Darkseid
Round 4 - Juggernaut

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#21 Edited By CaptinAwesome

Has Juggs ever been physically hurt with just raw force or power?

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#22 Edited By Lance Bastro

@CaptinAwesome said:

" Has Juggs ever been physically hurt with just raw force or power? "

depowered juggernaut has. he lost his eye ball by shatterstar, but it grew back during mid speech.
depowered juggernaut is when cyttorak takes juggernaut's invulnerability away and leaves him slightly stronger than colossus.

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#23 Edited By Pr_Beyonder

@Lance Bastro said:

" see, juggernaut's source of power is limitless. according to marvel HQ.

the trion recognizes that the power of the crimson cosmos was the ONLY power that could destroy their extra dimensional universe.

despyare was utilizing juggernaut's portion of power to larger effects.

means this....

juggernaut's wrap sheet provides.
entities that juggernaut has battled with and could not destroy him.

nightmare (who in that arc defeated eternity and stole dr. strange's eye of agamotto but could not defeat juggernaut)
d'spyare (who had the power to control the universe w/o the IG thought he defeated the juggernaut but hadn't)
dr. strange (who was powerful enough to negate the IG and truths with the living tribunal as sorerer supreme, but he needed help from cyttorak to defeat the juggernaut)
obvion (who is the master of the gateway to nothingness can not blink juggernaut out of existence)
doramarru (who was trying to hide from the juggernaut because doramarru knows he's bad news)
thor (who could not defeat the juggernaut so he have to summon the odinforce to open a portal that juggernaut accidently fell into and got back out after ruling the dimension of limbo)
beyonder who could not blink juggernaut out of existence so he left him on an asteroid in some unknown part of space.
he also fought bare fisted with stranger.
just from these facts, makes it very hard to believe that darksied can even stand a ghost of a chance against juggernaut without BFR. unless by telepathy. "

Just like to point out it wasn't pre retcon :P

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#24 Edited By odinforce

@comicdude23: why

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#25 Edited By odinforce

@Lance Bastro: " thor (who could not defeat the juggernaut so he have to summon the odinforce to open a portal that juggernaut accidently fell into and got back out after ruling the dimension of limbo)"

when did odinforce thor fight juggernaut?

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#26 Edited By virgin4life

juggernaut wins all of them

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#27 Edited By Lance Bastro

@odinforce said:

" @Lance Bastro: " thor (who could not defeat the juggernaut so he have to summon the odinforce to open a portal that juggernaut accidently fell into and got back out after ruling the dimension of limbo)"

when did odinforce thor fight juggernaut? "

it wasn't odin force thor, but thor summoned the power of odin to open the portal to limbo. but thor needed the help of several others to case juggernaut inside this huge metal pryimid before thor could banish juggernaut into limbo.

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#28 Edited By odinforce