Darkseid and Thanos Vs Odin
Could go either way.
Eh, still backing Odin. Thanos can survive when Odin attacks him but that's a far cry from actually fighting him and standing a chance at winning. Darkseid could give Odin a fight, but I see the All-Father pulling a win more often than not.
If either of the team have a shot of going 1 on 1 with him, im pretty sure both of them combined would take out the skyfather. Team wins 7/10
Odin spanks the duo like there his sons, literally, he beats Thanos and Darkseid like they're a young Thor and Loki misbehaving.
Odin
Odin
This is one tough one
Is it really friend, coz to me it looks like neither of the two has either the firepower to give Odin pause, nor durability to stand up to him, nor versatility to compete with someone who can control space, time and reality (to some extent).
Odin just seem way too powerful for this team, as long as he is not bound by story limitations.
@claymore1998: But you in turn copied someone else.
@claymore1998: But you in turn copied someone else.
Ya you copied a copier.
That's super duper bad..
>_>
@claymore1998: Oh no, that is so bad, I'm also president of the moon
Is it really friend, coz to me it looks like neither of the two has either the firepower to give Odin pause, nor durability to stand up to him, nor versatility to compete with someone who can control space, time and reality (to some extent).
Odin just seem way too powerful for this team, as long as he is not bound by story limitations.
Well put.
Odin with high difficulty.
^
Neither have the damage output to really do any damage to Odin but the team or at least i know thanos had the durability to make it a long drawn out fight
@claymore1998: Oh no, that is so bad, I'm also president of the moon
Go away no body cares about the moon anymore >_>
What can Thanos and Darkseid do against Odin stopping time?
Not sure about DS but Thanos has shown on multiple occasions to freely teleport through time.
As for the battle I see Odin taking it with slight difficulty.
@dre_savage: Odin can't manipulate time. @unBREAKable_Fs4: new 52 Darkseid hasn't shown anything to suggest he can do anything with time, and time traveling through the time stream is not the same as being able to resist having your own time stopped. For example, SA Superman can move through time with speed, but if you turn time to zero, speed would be useless. Manipulating time to time travel is not the same as time traveling through other means.
Odin would still defeat these two, but with some difficulty.
@unbreakable_fs4: @baron_von_santa:
Didn't Thanos' shields take a hit from Galan? If so, he may be able to defend against Odin, but I don't know where his offense will come from.
@dre_savage: Odin can't manipulate time.
Odin has stopped time in the past. Unless you are referring to something else.
Unlike you they cant even stare r*pe Odin.. The team needs you to have a chance at victory against the ALL Father.
@unBREAKable_Fs4: new 52 Darkseid hasn't shown anything to suggest he can do anything with time, and time traveling through the time stream is not the same as being able to resist having your own time stopped. For example, SA Superman can move through time with speed, but if you turn time to zero, speed would be useless. Manipulating time to time travel is not the same as time traveling through other means.
Odin would still defeat these two, but with some difficulty.
True. Not sure how I missed this fact.
Didn't Thanos' shields take a hit from Galan? If so, he may be able to defend against Odin, but I don't know where his offense will come from.
He did, and what makes it more impressive is that Galactus confirmed that he was welled nourished when he attacked Thanos and had to strain himself to break the shield. Oddly enough Thanos never used his force fields in his battle with Odin but it was hinted that Odin might have a chance at breaking it, as he destroyed the enclosure of pure force that Thanos attempted to trap him in. Though, based on the difference of strength between Galactus and Odin, and given that Galactus did exert himself to breach said shield, it's unlikely Odin would have an easy time bypassing it.
@claymore1998: no moral support for you the guy who bully's me? Well i see odin winning but not easily, as anyone of them can give him a fight, even if he wins them easy one-on-one, he can't beat them easy as a team.
You accused me of being a bully. I shall take that as a compliment coz I am evil ^_^
Well we just have to agree to disagree on the outcome them , nothing wrong with that =)
@claymore1998: eh? I said odin wins but not easily, as a team the force those 2 pack is meant to be recognised but people only recognise odin.
Odin
Odin
@Claymore1998: he once said time is the only thing he can't manipulate. Unless you can back up your claim with a scan or a feat....
@Claymore1998: he once said time is the only thing he can't manipulate. Unless you can back up your claim with a scan or a feat....
O Ye of Little faith, of course I can back up my claim with scans ^_^
Taking a leaf from @thetruebarryallen rating from Debaters rating thread (issue number,more explanation, less scans) lets try.
This takes us way back in Journey into the Mystery # 104.
What happens in the said story is that Surtur is freed on Earth and Odin fears a confrontation between Surtur and himself might bring about the end of humanity. Fearing this he stops times and teleports every single human from the planet earth so as to fight his foe unimpeded by the possibility to collateral damage.
"Then at a gesture from the monarch of Asgard, the very fabric of time itself stands still"
At the end of the said issue, Thor in his human guise contemplates upon what has just transpired.
"Of the billions of mortals, only I know what transpired here while time stood still"
Going back to a more recent story we reach a 2004 story Thor: King of Asgard, more specifically Thor volume 2 #79. In this story Thor gains the Odin Force from Odin after his demise and becomes King Thor. While the remaining details of the story is inconsequential for the purpose at hand, what is of consequence is that after defeating the Destroyer Armor, King Thor stops time and later chooses to travel back to the time to undo all of death and destruction caused during the story.
To quote exactly what Thor said before stopping time:
"Time cannot be undone. But it can be stopped."
Conclusion
The ability to stop time is something Odin well and truly possesses. Not only has Odin himself stopped time in the past but his powers have been used by Thor himself to stop time when it was needed.
Would you agree now, my friend?
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