Dark Schneider vs. John Constantine and The Doctor

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John Constantine + The Doctor

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Conditions

  • All feats from any form of media applicable from both sides
  • You choose how much prep is necessary for JohnCon and Doc, same for Darsh
  • You also decide how much info team has, same for Darsh
  • Morals off
  • Team is bloodlusted to hell, Darsh murdered every Gallifreyan alive and stole John's smokes
  • Anything goes

Let the battle begin.

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  • Team is bloodlusted to hell, Darsh murdered every Gallifreyan alive and stole John's smokes

JC solo roflmurdergodultrahypersupercosmiclolstomps.

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@iheartzombies92:

The doctor? Bloodlusted? WITH PREP????????????

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Darsh is a galaxy buster maybe universal with Haxs a blood lusted doctor with Prep can put the smackdown on multiversal beings and has Andti-magic tech that forces laws of physics into place

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Darsh is badass

The Doctor is a bigger one

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Constantine and Doc with prep, Darsh without.

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Constantine can solo imo

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@cjdavis103: Except the Doc hasn't met someone who blatantly gives the finger to such concepts regularly. Even the magical ones. Like, quite early on, beating Efreet with Fire Magic. A Fire Elemental that is, for all intents and purposes, immune to Fire and Fire Magic, was beaten by a Fire Spell from Dark Schneider.

Plus, Dispel Bound bans any of these changes from being forced on him. Also, Darsh gets prep as well. It's not one-sided prep. And for even more awesomeness, he makes a great "Army of Darkness" trailer.

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@reikai: The dispell bound protects him but what protects it? It is magic and the doctor has anti magic tech just lieing around

I know DS is powerful and can f**k logic

But The Doctor has been makeung logic his b^tch for 50 +years ( our time not his) DS is f**ked so hard he is now gay (0.o only possible with a blood lusted doctor I know )

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#8  Edited By Jmarshmallow

Pshhh....JohnCon doesn't need prep....

But with it and the Doctor, the Team stomp.

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@cjdavis103: They don't work on the same principles. Doc doesn't actually understand magic and attempts to apply logic to it. Not only that but DB bans Anti-Magic too. One of the reasons it's so hax is that it was made specifically to counter every conceivable and inconceivable form of attack and effect.

Also, Darsh doesn't just Eff logic, he also breaks the 4th wall. Rather often. He's gone off on a tangent when he doesn't appear for a few volumes and talks right to the readers. He also gets rather mad when someone else is in the spotlight, nevermind he openly refers to himself as the Main Character.

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@reikai: thats the thing with his tech he can applie logic to this fight that is his tech and his power and he does understand magic he and his people has delt with powerful magical beings before at the dawn of time and they stomped epicly hence why the whoverse is nearly magic free now

.counter every conceivable and inconceivable form of attack and effect.

NLF we can only go by what we see and the Anti magic might not afect that part of the dispell bound but it will make any and all attacks from him useless .

and nowhere do we see an anti-casuilaty shield nor an anti universe busting attack nor an anti multiversal attack

nevermind he openly refers to himself as the Main Character

so now he knows he no longer has any plot shields and that the Doctor has in universe plot shields

so basically he has Time to realize

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Before he gets fu*ked by the Doc and this is before we get john con involved

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#11 rogueshadow  Moderator

The Doctor or John Con solo.

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@cjdavis103:

thats the thing with his tech he can applie logic to this fight that is his tech and his power and he does understand magic he and his people has delt with powerful magical beings before at the dawn of time and they stomped epicly hence why the whoverse is nearly magic free now

Except you're applying a whole race who went back to set the laws as they wanted them against beings who as of yet haven't shown anything. DW tends to leave things rather ambiguous and open to interpretation

NLF we can only go by what we see and the Anti magic might not afect that part of the dispell bound but it will make any and all attacks from him useless

Not really since the Doc still has to figure out how his magic works and where it comes from. It's still vastly different from the DW-verse that the Timewords went back to screw with so it wouldn't be a threat to them. BASTARD-verse is quite very much a threat, especially since it does involve science as well.

so now he knows he no longer has any plot shields and that the Doctor has in universe plot shields

Neutral territory meaning he always has plot shields. Moreso by the fact he has 4th wall tampering and Doc doesn't.

Before he gets fu*ked by the Doc and this is before we get john con involved

John's a non-factor. Also, forgetting they both get prep. Darsh's abilities advanced so much in 3 days that Michael said it would've taken more than ten years to get the same results.

Oh and saying "Anti-Magic" is also a NLF since there's nothing saying how much it can actually nullify. In fact such has already been seen in BASTARD with Konron using Amrael to negate all Angelic power used against him, which stopped all of Uriel and Michael's attacks cold. But was completely useless against Dark Schneider.

We're also all aware that unless the Doctor goes all Time Vortex, then Darsh can literally kill him with a finger flick. Given that, ya know, his physical stats are ridiculous.

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@reikai:

Except you're applying a whole race who went back to set the laws as they wanted them against beings who as of yet haven't shown anything. DW tends to leave things rather ambiguous and open to interpretatio

we know they killed an entire universe worth of magic in a curb stomp battle and we know that he can do the same in this neutral universe ( assumeing this for fairness sake, if this takes place in the who verse he dies with 30 minuites blood lusted prep ) and DS will find oh sh*t i cannot use magic!

Not really since the Doc still has to figure out how his magic works and where it comes from. It's still vastly different from the DW-verse that the Timewords went back to screw with so it wouldn't be a threat to them. BASTARD-verse is quite very much a threat, especially since it does involve science as well.

any science connections can be exloited all day, he has prep time he is a genius and he can time travel i give him 5 minutes before he understands Bastard verse magic

BASTARD-verse is quite very much a threat

lol the dalkes solo the Bastard verse in a curb stomp battle the who verse f*ck stomp

Neutral territory meaning he always has plot shields. Moreso by the fact he has 4th wall tampering and Doc doesn't.

No a neutral universe means no PIS the Doctor has an in universe explanation for his Plot powers DS has none therfore the doctor keeps his in universe plot sheilds ( his norma

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@reikai: Wasn't that movie Army of Darkness originally live action from the 80's, did someone just put a manga spin on it or what.

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#15  Edited By Iragexcudder

Dark Schneider Takes A Tumble O_0

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#16  Edited By Cjdavis103

@reikai:

sorry it posted before i was done

his normal plot sheilds are not on

but DS plot sheilds are done

Darsh's abilities advanced so much in 3 days that Michael said it would've taken more than ten years to get the same results.

really what are his prep feats?

Oh and saying "Anti-Magic" is also a NLF since there's nothing saying how much it can actually nullify.

It is not nulfieing magic it is forceing physics on a target for expale he sets this up and flash runs into it suddenly he is exposed to the friction in the air and is atomised

STARD with Konron using Amrael to negate all Angelic power used against him, which stopped all of Uriel and Michael's attacks cold. But was completely useless against Dark Schneider.

really he has time lord tech that physics on a target?

We're also all aware that unless the Doctor goes all Time Vortex, then Darsh can literally kill him with a finger flick. Given that, ya know, his physical stats are ridiculous.

blood lusted he can do that use quant archangle powers, bust the universe destroy the multiverse, wipe Darsh from time slap him silly with a paradox, go back in time and make sure he never is reincarnated ( and save that world a hell of a lot better then darsh could) or just stop him from ever being born/made

Darsh is f*cked there is no way in hell he can bet a blood lusted doctor with prep

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Dark Schneider threads should be banned.

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#18  Edited By reikai

@cjdavis103:

we know they killed an entire universe worth of magic in a curb stomp battle

After setting it up so that they would win beforehand with their understanding of how it worked. Point of order, beings in DW-verse are just laughable and not worth mentioning.

any science connections can be exloited all day

Which Darsh can do the same. He fully understands all of their technology and everything used by the Wise Men of Europa. He just doesn't care about it. Considering these guys took an Apocalypse basted Earth and reformed its entire topography and geography, atmosphere and everything and littered it with every form of mythical creature you could think within a short amount of time some 400yrs before the main story picks up, shows quite a bit of scientific know how, and the reason why God is so utterly ticked off at them.

he has prep time he is a genius and he can time travel i give him 5 minutes before he understands Bastard verse magic

And it took him, his Old self and his previous form 400yrs worth of time to figure out how to break a door with the sonic screwdriver. It's going to take the Doc a considerable amount of time to understand how BASTARD magic works, the various and numerous wavelengths, sources and forms. Let alone the fact it won't matter without understanding how they all come into play together along with the Judas Pain.

lol the dalkes solo the Bastard verse

Satan eats the Daleks out of existence.

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No a neutral universe means no PIS the Doctor has an in universe explanation for his Plot powers DS has none therfore the doctor keeps his in universe plot sheilds

And Darsh is aware of his status whereas the Doc isn't. And the Docs in-universe status is due to Timelords messing with their universe. As neutral verse, that's not setup in his favor, meaning he'd have to prep and do it all himself. Which gives Darsh the opportunity to do the same, and is more successful, because of 4th wall leakage.

C'mon, we all know who really wins.

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The only one who can beat him is Yoko and it's cause he lets her.

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@reikai:

After setting it up so that they would win beforehand with their understanding of how it worked.

So? the doctor can do the same thing! that is kind of the point of time travel which DS does not have

Point of order, beings in DW-verse are just laughable and not worth mentioning.

........... you my friend have no idea what you are talking about

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Which Darsh can do the same. He fully understands all of their technology and everything used by the Wise Men of Europa. He just doesn't care about it. Considering these guys took an Apocalypse basted Earth and reformed its entire topography and geography, atmosphere and everything and littered it with every form of mythical creature you could think within a short amount of time some 400yrs before the main story picks up, shows quite a bit of scientific know how, and the reason why God is so utterly ticked off at them.

oh they have trier 1 level technology that is so cute!!!

the docters people are multiversal in tech or trier 4 ( the trier 4 civilization ) they point and laugh at such pitiful technology

nd it took him, his Old self and his previous form 400yrs worth of time to figure out how to break a door with the sonic screwdriver.

1. way to low ball there congrats now i can point out that he gets bitch slpaed into submission by a woman with no cosmic powers so now the doctor sicks amy on him to bitch slap him

2. sonic screw drivers are desgined not to work on tech below a certin level wood is far below that

It's going to take the Doc a considerable amount of time to understand how BASTARD magic works,

why? he knows magic ( or what it is) he droups into a magical database for the wise men hacks it and downloads that information 5 miniutes max

Satan eats the Daleks out of existence.

the Daleks are a univeral time traveling race that at the end of a massive war had a billion billion beings to call on to kill the time lords ( this after endless blood shed) so they have trillions to call on all over the Universe and satan is well short of galaxy level feats

not to mention they can travel in time and infianaly prep till they can stomp

And the Docs in-universe status is due to Timelords messing with their universe

no it is one of his powers it even affects outer time lords

s neutral verse, that's not setup in his favor, meaning he'd have to prep and do it all himself. Which gives Darsh the opportunity to do the same, and is more successful, because of 4th wall leakage.

show me one concreat advantege this 4 th wall break? it is a joke not a serious power or do you think Deadpool can take him ( and Dead pool breaks the 4 th wall completely not aside glances)

and No the Dotor himself provides the plot sheilds so it goes with him darshes do not

Oh and you have yet to counter his omnipotent powers wishing him out of exstaince not his universe bussting or his multiverse busting nor his paradox attacks nor him just changeing time

C'mon, we all know who really wins.

you are right

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If the Doctor has prep, couldn't he recreate the Reality Bomb? Especially with John's help... DB is h4x, but can it protect Darsh from a weapon that causes every moment in the history of and aspect of the multiverse to be wiped from existence?

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Team slaughters.

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Team kills DS. And then gets his bitches for lolz.

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Team has no answer for dispel bound. There is no answer for dispel bound.

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#25  Edited By Nomar

As someone who loves DW. I hate DW fans. So many fail to accept that TD gets many wins due to PIS. If you take that away from him, he'd be dead many times over. So many many times he should be dead but his enemy lets him monologue. A regular guy with a gun can kill the doctor in a regular encounter. I enjoy DW for the story and even how he uses his plot shield to advance the story. I leave my fanboying at the door for versus topics though. This battle is spite and mismatch. Sure the doctor has many tools but if every vs. topic with him is just let him construct and activate whatever he needs to win a topic, that's stupid. If this is a random encounter he dies before he can move an inch.

This board can be infuriating to post on. So much fanboy/girling. So much nostalgia wanking.

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#27  Edited By KHAOSeater

@cjdavis103: Doesn't DS just blitz them both? He has a massive physical advantage over both. John is pretty much a non factor and the doctor is basically a normo with super tech. Heck, I bet Darsh could kill him completely and stop him from reincarnating by destroying his physical, astral, and spiritual bodies. Darsh is too fast and overpowered for them.

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Composite Doctor? Yeah i guess team takes it then

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#29  Edited By BatmanandRobin

@khaoseater: they faced outerversal meta beings and won. Darsh gets sealed in a box for all time by Constantine for trying his anime gag stick by some con of killing off the god of his verse using all the prep time of power older and more ancient beings than Dark Schinders magic. DW just bans the bastardverses magic.