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god cloth seiya, mewtwo and any mecha from gurren lagann(e.o.s)

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@pern: I don't know who most of those characters you named are? Damn, and I thought I read a lot of manga but clearly your list has confirmed that I haven't read enough.

Yep. I'm not even familiar with that many manga myself, but those are the ones I do know. I'm sure there are a ton of other manga characters who can take Darshe.

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#55  Edited By Jimmy_Rustler

@realitywarper said:

@princearagorn1 said:

@realitywarper said:

I know pretty well both characters.

Then you know DSS is vastly outclassed.

In raw power probably.

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Not in versatility.

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*EDIT*

And thinking about it a second time, even in raw power that's not sure.

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@realitywarper said:

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@realitywarper: DSS isn't beating Darsh. Neither is Touma or Aleister Crowley.

Has Darsh any defense against TP or Reality Warping ?.

No.

Hedon't.

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"...And with this comment, @realitywarper revealed just how little he actually knew about Dark Schneider."

Darshe's Dispel Bound spell acts as a counter to pretty much everything attack imaginable including TP and reality bending:

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mewtwo uses skill swap to switch stats ftw

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Only one that immediately comes to my mind is Kumagawa Misogi

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@ostarion said:

Only one that immediately comes to my mind is Kumagawa Misogi

Who's that and what can they do?

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#59  Edited By ostarion

@jimmy_rustler said:

@ostarion said:

Only one that immediately comes to my mind is Kumagawa Misogi

Who's that and what can they do?

A character from Medaka Box. He gains and loses several abilities over the course of the series but his main ability lets him erase anything from existence (seemingly without exception)

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@ostarion said:

@jimmy_rustler said:

@ostarion said:

Only one that immediately comes to my mind is Kumagawa Misogi

Who's that and what can they do?

A character from Medaka Box. He gains and loses several abilities over the course of the series but his main ability lets him erase anything from existence (seemingly without exception)

And he can do this to anyone, anywhere at will?

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mewtwo uses skill swap to switch stats ftw

that or any mainly any 1 shot pokemon moves like perish song, or destiny bond which would kill schneider if he kills the pokemon.

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@honeyboichad said:

mewtwo uses skill swap to switch stats ftw

that or any mainly any 1 shot pokemon moves like perish song, or destiny bond which would kill schneider if he kills the pokemon.

I hope that you two are joking right now bc there's not a single pokemon that could take Darshe on his worst day. Even the legendary ones would get foddered off lol

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#63  Edited By ostarion

@jimmy_rustler said:

@ostarion said:

@jimmy_rustler said:

@ostarion said:

Only one that immediately comes to my mind is Kumagawa Misogi

Who's that and what can they do?

A character from Medaka Box. He gains and loses several abilities over the course of the series but his main ability lets him erase anything from existence (seemingly without exception)

And he can do this to anyone, anywhere at will?

Yep, and it's not just physical things, he has erased concepts and metaphysical things as well. And if he's killed, he automatically erases his death, bringing himself back to life. He can manipulate time to some extent too, one time he erased the "time it takes him to attack", making him attack instantly. He's said if he's not careful, he may accidentally erase everything.

Though in character he'd never win against Dark Schneider (Kumagawa's whole shtick is that he always loses)

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@those_eyes said:

@honeyboichad said:

mewtwo uses skill swap to switch stats ftw

that or any mainly any 1 shot pokemon moves like perish song, or destiny bond which would kill schneider if he kills the pokemon.

I hope that you two are joking right now bc there's not a single pokemon that could take Darshe on his worst day. Even the legendary ones would get foddered off lol

honeyboichad may be joking but im not.

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@jimmy_rustler said:

@those_eyes said:

@honeyboichad said:

mewtwo uses skill swap to switch stats ftw

that or any mainly any 1 shot pokemon moves like perish song, or destiny bond which would kill schneider if he kills the pokemon.

I hope that you two are joking right now bc there's not a single pokemon that could take Darshe on his worst day. Even the legendary ones would get foddered off lol

honeyboichad may be joking but im not.

Why aren't you? I get that you like Pokemon but they can't aren't on his level.

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@those_eyes: im serious too mewtwo can deafet him using skill swap and simply throwing one attack game over.

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**** it the truth seeking orbs can.

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#68  Edited By Jimmy_Rustler

@those_eyes: im serious too mewtwo can deafet him using skill swap and simply throwing one attack game over.

That's not a power, that's a game mechanic and I'm pretty sure that Dispel Bound would counter it out anyway as it would most likely fall under the "instant victory" category. Nice try though.

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@jimmy_rustler: Kumagawa was also in my list. He can pretty much erase magic from existence thus making Dispel Bound nothing.

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@honeyboichad said:

@those_eyes: im serious too mewtwo can deafet him using skill swap and simply throwing one attack game over.

That's not a power, that's a game mechanic and I'm pretty sure that Dispel Bound would counter it out anyway as it would most likely fall under the "instant victory" category. Nice try though.

Even the "game mechanics" work like that outside of the game. Dispel Bound sounds like a no limit falacy. Is it stated dispel Bound will block any type of reality warping/power/attack no matter the degree?

But if it would fall under instant victory then i concede to the rules.

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@those_eyes: The power of Darshe's and Uriel's attacks that destroyed their Dispel Bounds also shattered the Black Abyss. Destroying the Black Abyss requires the equivalent energy release of a Big Bang. So anyone with above universal level DC, reality warping, or hax should be able to get past the Dispel Bound.

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@those_eyes: It will block the attack if it is galaxy-level and below. Now here comes the part where you try to convince me that any Pokemon has galaxy level power and I laugh profusely in response.

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#73  Edited By those_eyes

@pern said:

@those_eyes: The power of Darshe's and Uriel's attacks that destroyed their Dispel Bounds also shattered the Black Abyss. Destroying the Black Abyss requires the equivalent energy release of a Big Bang. So anyone with above universal level DC, reality warping, or hax should be able to get past the Dispel Bound.

Hmm thanks for the info.

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@pern: Light novels? We talking about manga characters lol.

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@honeyboichad: The only thing from gurren lagann that can win is sttgl, and the anti spiral.

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Maybe the god-cloth Saints?

I doubt it. DS has blatantly overpowered the right hand of god.

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#78  Edited By ostarion

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@ostarion: How fast is he?

He's erased the time it takes for him to do things before, so his "speed" should be instant

He also has the ability to equalize anybody's stats with his own (and I think it removes their abilities too). He has to stab them with a special screw first for it to work, but he often seemingly summons it into people so I'm not really sure how it works, he could just be erasing the time it takes for him to stab them

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@ostarion: That honestly makes no sense at all lol. Can you post a feat?

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#80  Edited By Jimmy_Rustler

@lowlaville: Oh well then Idk then. Darshe is a pretty tough hurdle to overcome. I'm sure that there are non-omnis who could beat him but I just don't know who they are.

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Ban Mido wins

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#82  Edited By ostarion

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@ostarion: That honestly makes no sense at all lol. Can you post a feat?

For the time erasure, he's never outright stated that he can do it, but others have suggested he can and the stuff he does certainly suggests he can

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And I also recall a scene where he's completely surrounded by a dozen or so people with weapons right on him, and in the next page they're all pinned to the the walls and ceiling and he's standing in the middle as if he never moved.

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@ostarion: btw... DS negates reality warping.

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#87  Edited By RealityWarper

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@jimmy_rustler: Dispel bounds are forcefields.

Yeah I know, they're magic-induced force fields. Why're you telling me?

Because you answered to me.

As I know Darsh never faced anything more powerful than magic and divine / demoniac abilities.

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@jimmy_rustler said:

@realitywarper said:

@jimmy_rustler: Dispel bounds are forcefields.

Yeah I know, they're magic-induced force fields. Why're you telling me?

Because you answered to me.

As I know Darsh never faced anything more powerful than magic and divine / demoniac abilities.

Okay......where are you going with this?

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Okay......where are you going with this?

I just want to point out that Comics and Mangas differs on the ways to manages fights.

Here the forcefields are a protection against damage.

We see that in the fight between Uriel and Darsh as they hit each other (millions times ok ^^).

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Dispel bound also prevents existence wipe.Alan

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#91  Edited By Chibi_cute

Hades from saint seiya probably could give schneider a run for his money

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#92  Edited By pern

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@pern: Light novels? We talking about manga characters lol.

Same thing. There's an anime and manga for To Aru.

@lowlaville Yeah but to be fair, it's not possible to be completely invulnerable to reality warping. The whole point of reality warping is to change reality. So even if you are "immune" to reality warping, a strong enough reality warper can change reality so you're not. Kumagawa for example, can remove magic from existence which would take away the Dispel Bound.

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@jimmy_rustler said:

Maybe the god-cloth Saints?

I doubt it. DS has blatantly overpowered the right hand of god.

Virgo Shaka tanked a Big Bang and Pegasus broke Apollo's armor (who has multiversal durability). Also Gold Saints travel at 4 quintillion something times the speed of light.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=15242

7th sense and Divine Cosmos should take care of Eternal Atoms.

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@ostarion: Lol if he doesn't have any feats, DS blitzes the fuck out of him,

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@pern: Yes I know, and his apparent universal feat is in a light novel. And not in the manga.

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@kingh said:

@ostarion: Lol if he doesn't have any feats, DS blitzes the fuck out of him,

Kumagawa would just erase his own death though.

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#97  Edited By pern

Oh yeah. Geass users from Nightmare of Nunnally would also wreck DS.

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@pern said:

@lowlaville said:

@jimmy_rustler said:

Maybe the god-cloth Saints?

I doubt it. DS has blatantly overpowered the right hand of god.

Virgo Shaka tanked a Big Bang and Pegasus broke Apollo's armor (who has multiversal durability). Also Gold Saints travel at 4 quintillion something times the speed of light.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=15242

7th sense and Divine Cosmos should take care of Eternal Atoms.

DS just with the shard (forgot its name) was going infinity x speed. DKL and Adam of Darkness are far stronger forms. DS tanked a big bang and dealt the same amount of damage in DKL form. I can assure you, that level of firepower is not enough to take down Dark Schneider.

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@pern said:

@kingh said:

@pern: Light novels? We talking about manga characters lol.

Same thing. There's an anime and manga for To Aru.

@lowlaville Yeah but to be fair, it's not possible to be completely invulnerable to reality warping. The whole point of reality warping is to change reality. So even if you are "immune" to reality warping, a strong enough reality warper can change reality so you're not. Kumagawa for example, can remove magic from existence which would take away the Dispel Bound.

Fair point. But Dispel bound are shields. They get broken at each attempt. That just means whoever is trying have to be faster than DS to be able to deal him any damage whatsoever. His Anti-creation shield should prevent any reality warper from anti-creating anything. There are just a few exceptions to who can cleanly overpower DS with reality warping. That would be the likes of Beyonder, Azathoth and Molecule Man.

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@pern: Do he have any on panels feat of doing this? It doesnt matter anyway sincee DS can expand his dispel bound to be around kumagawa completly negate him from reality warping himself to life.