Dark Schneider runs DC/Marvel powerhouse gauntlet

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Dark Schneider

The gauntlet :

  1. World Breaker Hulk
  2. Flash (Wally West)
  3. Superman (New 52)
  4. Kyle Rayner GL
  5. Dr Fate (current version)
  6. Dr. Strange (current version)
  7. Darkseid (current version)
  8. Odin Force Thor (not King Thor)
  9. Silver Surfer
  10. Sentry (Void if necessary, no current version)
  11. Thanos
  12. Odin
  13. Surtur w/ Twilight sword
  14. Galactus ( just fed on 1 planet)
  15. Arishem

Rules :

  • win by Death, eternal BFR, atleast 4h KO, give up.
  • all bloodlusted
  • no special items for gauntlet characters
  • DS can use his best and most powerful forms and all items he already used in Bastard if necessary
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Very good list.

Possibly stops at 14, depending on how good the meal was.

Definitely stops at the Judge.

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Very good list.

Possibly stops at 14, depending on how good the meal was.

Definitely stops at the Judge.

Agreed. He would make it to at least Galactus IMO. Galactus vs DS would be epic as hell.

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Stops at Galactus.

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Clears despite how much I hate his character. He's that kid who would always cheated in childhood game. Every body would team up to beat him we would seemingly win then he pulls some bogus bullshit to win.

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Also these pictures of DS are way better =D

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Darsh insults Galactus in such a fashion that Galactus goes into Cosmic Shock as he can't fathom what was just said to him

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Wally West speed steals and IMP's him into oblivion.

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Wally West speed steals and IMP's him into oblivion.

lol

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Wally West speed steals and IMP's him into oblivion.

Irrelevant. Darsh can't be defeated by physical harm alone. You have to be able to destroy his soul and astral matter.

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@godtriggerhulk said:

Wally West speed steals and IMP's him into oblivion.

Irrelevant. Darsh can't be defeated by physical harm alone. You have to be able to destroy his soul and astral matter.

I think he's trolling...well I hope anyway :o

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@your_friendly_azn: DS isn't that well known, I assume its just lack of knowledge about him.

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#14  Edited By reikai

@godtriggerhulk: Fails by Dispel Bound blocking Flash. Also, Darsh fights naked and Wally is so shamed by his own inadequacy that he kills himself.

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#15  Edited By GodTriggerHulk

@fallschirmjager:

Dispell bound is what that's called right? Can it be activated when all of DS's matter down to the sub-atomic level is frozen? Does it activate quickly enough to counter a MFTL blow?

Actually speed steal is a KO, even without an IMP, no electron flow in the brain means no thoughts in DS's head.

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@godtriggerhulk said:

@fallschirmjager:

Dispell bound is what that's called right? Can it be activated when all of DS's matter down to the sub-atomic level is frozen? Does it activate quickly enough to counter a MFTL blow?

Dispel bound is built to protect him from that happening in the first place. And considering he's been attacked nigh-infinite times every instant, yes, it can activate.

It's an auto-shield for seraph beings anyway, iirc.

And DS can't be beaten by physically killing him.

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@godtriggerhulk: It's automatic. Also, he makes Seraph Angels that're 7000xFTL look slow. Also, as noted, Darsh has Eternal Atoms that can't be destroyed unless simultaneously done so on three planes of existence. Of those three, Wally only works on one of them. And the Eternal Atoms are also protected by Dispel Bounds.

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#19  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@reikai said:

@godtriggerhulk: It's automatic. Also, he makes Seraph Angels that're 7000xFTL look slow. Also, as noted, Darsh has Eternal Atoms that can't be destroyed unless simultaneously done so on three planes of existence. Of those three, Wally only works on one of them. And the Eternal Atoms are also protected by Dispel Bounds.

Yup. And he's 7000x++ FTL in base form. 7000x FTL is Seraph speed and they couldn't see him attacking.

In Majin form this is multipled several million times (several is at least 4). And another 130x when he fuses with DKL. Gives us at least x364+ trillion FTL

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@fallschirmjager: @reikai:

Automatic is relative. Wally was able to beat instantaneous travel in a race accross the universe and achieves speed numbers that put 364,000,000,000,000X FTL travel to shame.

http://www.comicvine.com/wally-west/4005-23879/forums/wally-wests-top-speed-best-feats-598821/

Check out post #28 by Dreduced.

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@fallschirmjager:

Actually that's misinterpreted. It's not really so much his speed that was increased to that degree, it was the power behind his attacks and spells. His speed does increase a bit from activating the Judas Pain and multiplies his cognitive functions to an extreme degree.

But basically if he had a spell that could, say, crater a 2mi wide area. That force would be multiplied several million times by Judas Pain. So not you're looking at a 4-8million mile wide explosion. Darsh already has a spell that reaches solar temperatures. So if his Exodus spell was 1mi degrees, the force and heat of that spell would be magnified several million fold. You'd be looking at temperatures in excess of 2-4trillion degrees. And that's a low estimation of Darsh's spell force.

Darsh could hit a million degrees before his fight with Anthrasax, before being trapped in Hell, where he would receive a massive power up. Basically the Higher level demons were all stated was being easily 6000x more powerful than a Dominion level angel like Anthrasax. So Darsh proceeded to beat the crap out of them.

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@fallschirmjager: @reikai:

Automatic is relative. Wally was able to beat instantaneous travel in a race accross the universe and achieves speed numbers that put 364,000,000,000,000X FTL travel to shame.

http://www.comicvine.com/wally-west/4005-23879/forums/wally-wests-top-speed-best-feats-598821/

Check out post #28 by Dreduced.

Wally was insanely amped at the time. And darshe has exchanged nigh infinite attacks and counters every instant himself.. That's basically the best speed feat he has. Not the theoretical million times amp.

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@godtriggerhulk: Dispel Bound is nothing that is activated. They just exist. There is no on/off switch. No speed beats it. They've protected Seraphs and DS against reality warping attacks. They're the utlimate hax-shield.

and as stated before it doesn't matter how fast Wally is. You can't beat DS unless you can attack his Soul and Astral Matter in addition to his physical body.

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@godtriggerhulk said:

@fallschirmjager: @reikai:

Automatic is relative. Wally was able to beat instantaneous travel in a race accross the universe and achieves speed numbers that put 364,000,000,000,000X FTL travel to shame.

http://www.comicvine.com/wally-west/4005-23879/forums/wally-wests-top-speed-best-feats-598821/

Check out post #28 by Dreduced.

nop, that wasn't Wally's speed. he got extra kinetic energy from his speedster friend who Wally was racing with (i don't remember his weird name), he got also extra kinetic energy from all humans on earth and i think also from all his friend's people too (the entire alien race). and still, with all that kinetic energy, he surely can't surpass instantaneous travel, it's a bad interpretation, actually you have also to count the moment of the 2 comic entities finger reflex to push the button, an that's what gave Wally enough time to beat them.

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@princearagorn1: @fallschirmjager:

Can you show me scans of dispel bound countering a speed steal style attack?

Basically what they're saying is that its a near impenetrable shield that auto protects against everything. As badly as I want Flash to win this, I don't see it happening.

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@godtriggerhulk said:

@princearagorn1: @fallschirmjager:

Can you show me scans of dispel bound countering a speed steal style attack?

Basically what they're saying is that its a near impenetrable shield that auto protects against everything. As badly as I want Flash to win this, I don't see it happening.

Even if Wally breaks Dispel bound - it doesn't matter. Wally has no way of harming Darshe's soul or his astral matter. Even if Darshe had street level speed, his eternal atoms would continue to regen his physical body endlessly. Wally would die of old age before he beat Darshe.

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@princearagorn1: @fallschirmjager:

Can you show me scans of dispel bound countering a speed steal style attack?

Dispel bound's mechanism is, it 'bans' all types of attacks, including reality warp, probability manipulation, poison, immortality and 'defeat' (lol). It's impossible to harm/attack the wizard inside without taking out every shield. It's literally 'banning' your opponent from doing anything in your space.

Falls should have the scans handy.

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#34  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@princearagorn1: some of them are silly like insecticide or error-detct? lol maybe its mistranslated

basically implies they protect against everything though

@unbreakable_fs4: its a really enjoyable read. very funny and even though it offers in depth explanations for all of the weird spells, it doesn't take itself even slightly seriously lol. Darshe breaks the 4th wall like every chapter

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@princearagorn1: some of them are silly like insecticide or error-detct? lol maybe its mistranslated

basically implies they protect against everything though

Yeah, I think he just threw in random things to say 'basically everything, including things that aren't attacks'

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@princearagorn1: Well some people are allergic to penicillin. But well basically, Dispel Bound guards against ever Conceivable and Inconceivable form of attack.

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#38  Edited By Baron_von_Santa

ah, we do not know much about him, though it seems dark whatever is too powerful for them. the flash and arishem could possibly win. some scans of him being that fast please

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#39  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@reikai: @princearagorn1: They should have put STD's in the description given how many people Darshe bangs.

Darshe doesn't Need dispel bound for that lol, raw awesomeness is enough :p

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@princearagorn1 :D

@baron_von_santa said:

ah, we do not know much about him, though it seems dark whatever is too powerful for them. the flash and arishem could possibly win

Arishem would definitely beat him. Darshe isn't quite a god yet (although give it time for the rest of volumes to be released - he has all ready recreated Angels, which only God had been able to do) but Flash - even if he could break Dispel bound can't attack DS' soul or his astral matter - only his physical body. So long he exists one of the three planes of existence (physical, spiritual, astral) he can regenerate the other 2 endlessly.

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@baron_von_santa said:

ah, we do not know much about him, though it seems dark whatever is too powerful for them. the flash and arishem could possibly win

Arishem would definitely beat him. Darshe isn't quite a god yet (although give it time for the rest of volumes to be released - he has all ready recreated Angels, which only God had been able to do) but Flash - even if he could break Dispel bound can't attack DS' soul or his astral matter - only his physical body. So long he exists one of the three planes of existence (physical, spiritual, astral) he can regenerate the other 2 endlessly.

add to this, DS has "Inertia Control bound", that means even IMP will possibily lose it's inertia because of the spel bound

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flash can push him in to the speed force, right?

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flash can push him in to the speed force, right?

...Dispel Bound...

Not to mention he has already broken out of sealing/dimensional bfr...

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#46  Edited By Fallschirmjager

@baron_von_santa said:

flash can push him in to the speed force, right?

Not really. I don't want to sound like a broken-record but Dispel Bound bans people from affecting your body. You can't BFR someone you can't affect. Its seriously a hax-spell. Nearly a no-limits fallacy tbh.

Lets say he did dump him in the Speed Force though. Uriel and Darshe crashed through the dimensional barrier between heaven and hell and shattered reality. Its stated the energy required to do that is equivalent to the Big Bang. He could probably break out lol.

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#47  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@baron_von_santa said:

flash can push him in to the speed force, right?

Not really. I don't want to sound like a broken-record but Dispel Bound bans people from affecting your body. You can't BFR someone you can't affect.

Yeah.. we kind of do sound like broken records, but that's exactly how it is. Near full proof defense..

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#48  Edited By reikai

@princearagorn1: Only thing more broken than Dispel Bound are Light Hawk Wings.

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then you guys picked some cats and a wolf to fight another wolf lol. so he stops at the judge?

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@reikai said:

@princearagorn1: Only thing more broken than Dispel Bound are Light Hawk Wings.

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o hai tenchi the god talking to a younger version of himself - NBD

then you guys picked some cats and a wolf to fight another wolf lol. so he stops at the judge?

Galactus would be a fight for sure. But Darshe definitely wouldn't be Arishem. He's not a god - yet.