#1 Posted by DaMiaNDaCRaZeD (142 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil and The Punisher vs Moon Knight and Hawkeye

In New York City, till both heroes on the opposite team are knocked out or completely disabled.

#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by k4tzm4n (36379 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

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#4 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Mh...Team 1 maybe...

#5 Edited by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

Whoops, my bad. Agreed in whole.

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#6 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

#7 Edited by k4tzm4n (36379 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

Aside from thinking MK is the weak link, I'd agree with this.

Osh kosh bagosh, Marc takes Frank to funky town. And by funk town I mean he kicks him in the face a few times.

But honestly, they're pretty close in a lot of regards, but I think Marc's superior agility, slight edge in h2h (superior feats IMHO) and variety of gear would allow him to best Frank in a good fight. It wouldn't be a significant majority and Marc could likely walk away with some significant injuries, but I think he has what it takes to bring down the Punisher.

Then again, a big factor is what you consider standard gear for Castle. I'm viewing this as he has a standard assortment of regular firearms (pistols, submachine guns) and knives.

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#8 Posted by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: I actually misread your post. I have zero idea why I thought you said MK when you said Frank. Personally, I think Hawkeye is the weak link here. While Clint is probably the most accurate here, I don't think Punisher is THAT far behind him and due to Frank's penchant for more brutal methods, his own accuracy feats can put him in a good spot against either or if he can keep range and he could potentially beat Hawkeye in that department IMO. Plus he can hold off either and potentially beat at least Hawkeye in close ranged combat. Hawkeye will definitely restrict his shots and gear and I see him falling tremendously short of Daredevil and he may have more potential in h2h fighting say against the likes of Frank, but I haven't seen anything to show it yet.

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#9 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10180 posts) - - Show Bio

Team One

#10 Posted by cuddles666 (310 posts) - - Show Bio

With Daredevil's insane fighting/acrobatic skills coupled with Punisher's superior gear, I'd say team one takes this.

#11 Posted by DaMiaNDaCRaZeD (142 posts) - - Show Bio

truee

#12 Edited by TheMultiverse (134 posts) - - Show Bio

Frank is well respected for a reason. (his gear,and prep), but i really don't see him out aiming either Hawkeye or Moonknight. I see Frank getting basically one shotted. Leaving Daredevil to dodge all of hawkeyes, and moonknight's shots until he can get close enough to force one of them to fight h2h. Which is possible for him, but not really likely.

I like team 2.

Replace frank with Taskmaster for a free win imo.

.......Wait... if Frank shows up in a tank.....

#13 Posted by GhostRider29 (2673 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil vs. Moon Knight: After a semi-decent fight, Daredevil would win.

Daredevil vs. Hawkeye: Once Daredevil got close, which wouldn't take long, it's over for clint.

Punisher vs. Moon Knight: An extremely good fight. The best in this IMO. Moon Knight would win, but he'd be in no condition to keep fighting after.

Punisher vs. Hawkeye: I'd say that they're pretty even with their marksmen ship. But Punisher is a superior fighter and is brutal. He'd take down hawkeye after a decent fight.

So... Daredevil and punisher win 3/4 times.

#14 Posted by Dane (10588 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil solos.

#15 Posted by Strafe Prower (11887 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Castle would loose pretty fast in a ranged match against Clint. Hawkeye has too big of an advantage with his trick arrows, superior accuracy, and rapid firing. Not to mention the fact that he can curve arrows and can shoot accurately without looking.

Also, Frank is slightly better in the H2H department, IMO.

#16 Posted by They Killed Cap! (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Daredevil close to spiderman when it comes to his agility and responsiveness.

#17 Edited by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strafe Prower: I don't think Frank would lose that fast to Clint. I can see where he loses though. Regardless, I'm not up for much of a debate so I'll concede to the point that I was wrong on Clint being the weak link and I agree that Frank is the better fighter, I even said that.

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#18 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dane said:

Daredevil solos.

interesting, and possible

@They Killed Cap! said:

Isn't Daredevil close to spiderman when it comes to his agility and responsiveness.

yeah, he has the radar sense and excellent hearing/other senses, and he is very agile and fast. That's why he can constantly dodge Bullseye's attacks.

#19 Edited by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

Hmmm....

Frank would have an extremely difficult time against Moon Knight and Hawkeye. In fact, I do think that Moon Knight could take Frank in hand to hand, and Hawkeye is far superior at Long and Mid range.

If they take down Frank first and fast (which could be possible), and take on Daredevil together then they could perhaps defeat him. But they would have a really hard time fighting Murdock here, and I just dont think they would have enough edge.

I have to say that is still goes to Daredevil and Frank.

#20 Posted by sync1 (2799 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1. I'm going to say with ease. IMO.

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#21 Posted by Strafe Prower (11887 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Ok

#22 Posted by k4tzm4n (36379 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

Hmmm....

Frank would have an extremely difficult time against Moon Knight and Hawkeye. In fact, I do think that Moon Knight could take Frank in hand to hand, and Hawkeye is far superior at Long and Mid range.

If they take down Frank first and fast (which could be possible), and take on Daredevil together then they could perhaps defeat him. But they would have a really hard time fighting Murdock here, and I just dont think they would have enough edge.

I have to say that is still goes to Daredevil and Frank.

I think you misunderstood me because what you said is essentially what I said.

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#23 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

Hmmm....

Frank would have an extremely difficult time against Moon Knight and Hawkeye. In fact, I do think that Moon Knight could take Frank in hand to hand, and Hawkeye is far superior at Long and Mid range.

If they take down Frank first and fast (which could be possible), and take on Daredevil together then they could perhaps defeat him. But they would have a really hard time fighting Murdock here, and I just dont think they would have enough edge.

I have to say that is still goes to Daredevil and Frank.

I think you misunderstood me because what you said is essentially what I said.

No, I understood you. I was agreeing with you, and reiterating it in my own words.

#24 Posted by k4tzm4n (36379 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moon_Bat_87: Ah, guess I missed the edit. I thought the PM of the message said you disagree.

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#25 Posted by Moon_Bat_87 (719 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@Moon_Bat_87: Ah, guess I missed the edit. I thought the PM of the message said you disagree.

Yeah, I figured that was what you were meaning. Sorry. Should have made sure to edit it faster.

#26 Posted by cmyers1980 (260 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 for VARIOUS good reasons stated above.

#27 Posted by VeganDiet (977 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 takes it.

#28 Posted by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.

I find myself agreeing with this

#29 Posted by Strafe Prower (11887 posts) - - Show Bio

Replace Daredevil with someone else and this would be a good match.

#30 Posted by ComicKID777 (287 posts) - - Show Bio

team one. daredevil makes it an easy win here an frank with the right gear would even make it easier even though he is the weak link here it seems

#31 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2778 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Murdock all day 10/10

#32 Posted by tomlikesfries (4625 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a nice match-up. Team 2 could have a good chance of winning this depending on the starting distance, due to Hawkeye. But, as it isn't stated, I'll say Team 1, because if it is a close combat, I don't see how they will lose.

#33 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2778 posts) - - Show Bio

Not to mention daredevil has easily caught arrows Ike pollen in the wind..and he dodges bullets with ease..hawkeye could never tag daredevil

#34 Posted by jashro44 (19499 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't hawkeye carry sonic arrows?

#35 Edited by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

Doesn't hawkeye carry sonic arrows?

Yes.

#36 Posted by jashro44 (19499 posts) - - Show Bio

Than I might give it to team 2 than...As mentioned punisher is probably the weak link. If hawkeye has sonic arrows they could do a lot of damage to daredevil. IIRC they did in 1 battle hawkeye had with daredevil (all though it didn't knock daredevil out it did leave him vulnerable for a bit).

#37 Posted by JJ62 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

Punisher and Moon Knight have fought each other to standstills in the past, DD can beat Hawkeye easily and then help Frank to take out Moon Knight, and that's the end...team 1 wins, Daredevil outclasses everyone on both teams.