- Random encounter
- Abandoned warehouse at night
- Full gear and weapons
vs
Matt
Snake Eyes in a close one.
he has the advantage being more armed than daredevil
Snake eyes even unarmered. Just give him his sword and he will show you what the true definition of fear is.
I'd back Snake Eyes in a tough fight.
I'll back you backing Snake Eyes in a tough fight.
Snake Eyes in a close one.
Snake eyes even unarmered. Just give him his sword and he will show you what the true definition of fear is.
I'd back Snake Eyes in a tough fight.
I'll back you backing Snake Eyes in a tough fight.
Chuck Dixon already claimed that in terms of raw fighting ability, Snake Eyes is on par with Batman, and he's written plenty for both characters. He wins here after a great fight.
I need you all to point me at the comics making you say such things.
Chuck Dixon already claimed that in terms of raw fighting ability, Snake Eyes is on par with Batman, and he's written plenty for both characters. He wins here after a great fight.
Bro, Chuck Dixon's Richard Dragon series ain't even canon.
@dimitridkatsis: I'll reason with you when I get back from gym ;)
Snake Eyes. Faster and more skilled. Plus he has a sword.
This is gonna' get ugly...
@llehdevil: Snake Eyes is genuinely faster than Daredevil. Storm Shadow as well. They have both deflect automatic gunfire off of swords, and they didnt rely on a radar sense to do it.
@allstarsuperman: ...Interesting.. Thanks for the knowledge.
Daredevil wins. I never understood that part about Snake Eyes being that much faster than him when Elektra has deflected automatic fire with her sai while airborne. And Daredevil has no problem in keeping up with her and on occasion has shown better reaction time.
Majority's backing Snake-Eyes. Myself, I see it as a close fight no matter who wins. The idea that either one stomps is silly.
Also, Chuck Dixon saying Batman and Snake-Eyes are equal is something I'm extremely leery of taking as evidence. If a DC writer were to claim that Batman could one-shot Hulk, would we take it seriously? I get that Word of God statements can be evidence, but Dixon is only one writer of many for both characters, so I'm hesitant to take everything he says about the two as fact.
@llehdevil: Snake Eyes is genuinely faster than Daredevil. Storm Shadow as well. They have both deflect automatic gunfire off of swords, and they didnt rely on a radar sense to do it.
Lol... What does this even mean? Are you implying Daredevil isn't as fast because he has radar sense, i mean, that's part of his character to begin with. Moreover, most of his reaction feats rely on his senses, specially tact and hearing, not his radar sense per se. Regardless, i don't even know why deflecting bullet fire is so great here, Daredevil has done it as well at almost point blank and effortlessly much more times than Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow and has also gotten the best over people with actual super human reflexes and speed, like Captain America, twice and Bloody Mary, which has literally directed bullets through the edge of her sword back at the shooters using their own momentum while doing so.
I can be as impartial as i can and claim they are somehow similar in the speed department, but Snake surely isn't faster than Daredevil for that reason, unless of course, if you actually have a feat Daredevil couldn't replicate.
@ghostravage: Daredevil's radar gives him a warning before a shot fires off. In many cases it's how he blocks and deflects bullets because he's actually moved before the shot was fired.
@acrokat: People can't seem to grasp the concept of radar sense. It's basically ecolocation and has nothing to do with his reactions. Stop falling on the same nonsense truck about his radar sense. He flat out stated he can hear the bullet entering the chamber before the shot is made and that's how he reacts accordingly, it has nothing to do with his radar sense. On top of it, one of his most impressive feats came from feeling the freaking bullet traveling through the air when all his other 5 senses, including his radar sense was nullified. He was in every essence of the word, feeling things around him and he still reacted fast enough to deflect a bullet back at Bushwhacker in the time it took the bullet to tag him at a very short distance.
Radar Sense doesn't make you faster, it lets you see if you're freaking blind, basically the same shit bats use to fly at night. C'mon now.
@ghostravage: I didn't say any of that, I just said it gives him a warning before something happens, which is true, isn't it?
@acrokat: You're basically implying the Radar Sense is what makes him that fast if you just mention his radar sense as the sole thing that gives him a "Warning". Every sense gives him a warning. Smell gives him a warning when people starts sweating, tact give him a warning when air pressure changes, hearing gives him a warning when he can hear people's heartbeat as well as bullets entering the gun's chamber... He's not fast because of Radar Sense and i can assure you and factually prove to you that Radar Sense isn't even a key factor when he's fighting a single foe straight on. I mean, i can't recall a single time where Daredevil stated his radar sense was what made his reflexes super humanly fast.
Basically the only thing his Radar Sense does is making him see 360 degrees all the time, it is in no shape, way or form a sense that allows him to react faster when a bullet is coming for him, SPECIALLY if it's coming from in-front of him. Do you understand now? The only "warning" he might receive is when someone is trying to ambush him or something comes from another place that is not in-front of him...
@elijah_c_washington: I hope you're joking...
EDIT! Nvm... Just saw it. :P
@elijah_c_washington: I hope you're joking...
EDIT! Nvm... Just saw it. :P
Lol
@ghostravage: No, I did not say it made him faster, I just said it gives him a warning and he's able to move before the shot is made, like here, what is the problem? He's still timing the bullet, he's still fast without it.
@acrokat: I'm just getting into Daredevil comics but it seems like in addition to being able to predict the shots (which based on I know so far was mainly done in the earlier comics) he's able to actually able to track the bullets themselves as well as the air current around them.
Just recently got into the comics so there's a chance something else contradicts this but apparently his senses can track the bullets and the waves of air they push ahead allowing him to move away from it's path.
His reflexes might be heightened by his senses as well if he could actually perceive and react to those things.
Based on this scan he's a legit bullet dodger instead of just being able to predict where the shots are being aim and moving before it's fired.
@dstreet45: I'm aware. Like I said he still is a bullet timer, the radar sense just gets him an extra heads up when he's being shot at.
@acrokat: It's not the Radar Sense. It's his freaking hearing sense. What the hell man? There's nothing remotely close in that scan for you to suggest it was his radar sense. Stop speculating and twisting what the Radar Sense means. Jesus.
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