Location: A NewYork Mall. No civilians are around.
- Morals are on.
- Weapons: Standard equipment.
- Both start 20 feet away from each other.
- Winning Condition: KO.
Who wins?
Daredevil vs. Mr. Freeze
" Mister Freeze. Daredevil can't puncture his armor... "What's the armor made out of?
" I thought iv seen batman break thru his helmet before? "That's why I asked...because I think I recall the same thing.
His armor comes in different variations, at times Batman and Nightwing can puncture it, at other times bullets and rockets bounce right off of it." I thought iv seen batman break thru his helmet before? "
Under most circumstances, special equipment is needed to defeat Freeze, equipment which Matt doesn't have access to.
" @PirateKing69 said:thanks i guess op needs to say which armor...what is your opinion on this fight?His armor comes in different variations, at times Batman and Nightwing can puncture it, at other times bullets and rockets bounce right off of it. Under most circumstances, special equipment is needed to defeat Freeze, equipment which Matt doesn't have access to. "" I thought iv seen batman break thru his helmet before? "
" @Cosmic_Falcon said:Under normal circumstances Freeze would kill Matt pretty fast. He doesn't have the knowledge or the equipment to deal with Freeze." @PirateKing69 said:thanks i guess op needs to say which armor...what is your opinion on this fight? "His armor comes in different variations, at times Batman and Nightwing can puncture it, at other times bullets and rockets bounce right off of it. Under most circumstances, special equipment is needed to defeat Freeze, equipment which Matt doesn't have access to. "" I thought iv seen batman break thru his helmet before? "
" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "It doesn't matter if their are any weak points, Daredevil doesn't hit hard enough even with a billy club to puncture bullet and missile proof armor.
" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "yea matt will find the weak points in the armor and freeze isnt going to be able to hit DD.
" @daredevil21134 said:" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "It doesn't matter if their are any weak points, Daredevil doesn't hit hard enough even with a billy club to puncture bullet and missile proof armor. "
He might not use he's billy club,Daredevil loves to use his environment,Daredevil has ran somebody over with a car before so he can resort to other things
" @daredevil21134 said:" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "yea matt will find the weak points in the armor and freeze isnt going to be able to hit DD. "
Agreed
" @Cosmic_Falcon said:This fight takes place in a mall, and even if it was out in the streets Freeze isn't stupid, the second Daredevil approaches him with a car, Freeze will blast it and encase Daredevil inside of it." @daredevil21134 said:He might not use he's billy club,Daredevil loves to use his environment,Daredevil has ran somebody over with a car before so he can resort to other things "" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "It doesn't matter if their are any weak points, Daredevil doesn't hit hard enough even with a billy club to puncture bullet and missile proof armor. "
" @daredevil21134 said:" @Cosmic_Falcon said:This fight takes place in a mall, and even if it was out in the streets Freeze isn't stupid, the second Daredevil approaches him with a car, Freeze will blast it and encase Daredevil inside of it. "" @daredevil21134 said:He might not use he's billy club,Daredevil loves to use his environment,Daredevil has ran somebody over with a car before so he can resort to other things "" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "It doesn't matter if their are any weak points, Daredevil doesn't hit hard enough even with a billy club to puncture bullet and missile proof armor. "
I was just using a car as an example of Daredevil using other methods,Daredevil not being able to pentrate his armor is not a good enough reason to give freeze the fight imo,Daredevil has defeated greater threats then freeze
" @Cosmic_Falcon said:Saying he'll use the environment isn't a good argument because using the environment can be a million different scenarios." @daredevil21134 said:I was just using a car as an example of Daredevil using other methods,Daredevil not being able to pentrate his armor is not a good enough reason to give freeze the fight imo,Daredevil has defeated greater threats then freeze "" @Cosmic_Falcon said:This fight takes place in a mall, and even if it was out in the streets Freeze isn't stupid, the second Daredevil approaches him with a car, Freeze will blast it and encase Daredevil inside of it. "" @daredevil21134 said:He might not use he's billy club,Daredevil loves to use his environment,Daredevil has ran somebody over with a car before so he can resort to other things "" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "It doesn't matter if their are any weak points, Daredevil doesn't hit hard enough even with a billy club to puncture bullet and missile proof armor. "
Not being able to penetrate his armor IS a good enough reason because Daredevil has no other method of offense. Even if Daredevil dropped a piano on top of Freeze it wouldn't even budge him.
Daredevil defeating greater threats then Freeze doesn't mean he'll win here.
" @daredevil21134 said:" @Cosmic_Falcon said:Saying he'll use the environment isn't a good argument because using the environment can be a million different scenarios. Not being able to penetrate his armor IS a good enough reason because Daredevil has no other method of offense. Even if Daredevil dropped a piano on top of Freeze it wouldn't even budge him. Daredevil defeating greater threats then Freeze doesn't mean he'll win here. "" @daredevil21134 said:I was just using a car as an example of Daredevil using other methods,Daredevil not being able to pentrate his armor is not a good enough reason to give freeze the fight imo,Daredevil has defeated greater threats then freeze "" @Cosmic_Falcon said:This fight takes place in a mall, and even if it was out in the streets Freeze isn't stupid, the second Daredevil approaches him with a car, Freeze will blast it and encase Daredevil inside of it. "" @daredevil21134 said:He might not use he's billy club,Daredevil loves to use his environment,Daredevil has ran somebody over with a car before so he can resort to other things "" I DD think DD takes this......if there is any weak points in his amor he will find it "It doesn't matter if their are any weak points, Daredevil doesn't hit hard enough even with a billy club to puncture bullet and missile proof armor. "
Thats also true,imo I think DD wins i'll just leave at that,i'm not up for a long debate right now my friend
Saying he'll use the environment isn't a good argument because using the environment can be a million different scenarios. Not being able to penetrate his armor IS a good enough reason because Daredevil has no other method of offense. Even if Daredevil dropped a piano on top of Freeze it wouldn't even budge him. Daredevil defeating greater threats then Freeze doesn't mean he'll win here. "Agreed.
" @cpt_linger said:" Does freeze have cryokenisis in this fight? "Would it matter? "
Well they are 20ft away from each other, by the time DD is 10ft away he will be frozen solid.... so yes it matters
"@Vance Astro said:" @cpt_linger said:Well they are 20ft away from each other, by the time DD is 10ft away he will be frozen solid.... so yes it matters "" Does freeze have cryokenisis in this fight? "Would it matter? "
lol
"Does freeze have cryokenisis in this fight? "
Must be some uber version of freeze ,cause he does'nt have anything like that from what i recall.
" Daredevil wins,last i saw freeze bruce defeated him in one punch. "is that where he broke his helmet?
I will go with Daredevil on this.
" @entropy_aegis said:" Daredevil wins,last i saw freeze bruce defeated him in one punch. "is that where he broke his helmet? I will go with Daredevil on this. "
Yup,brightest day 14.
" @PirateKing69 said:Yep i think that was the scan i was talking about thanks" @entropy_aegis said:Yup,brightest day 14. "" Daredevil wins,last i saw freeze bruce defeated him in one punch. "is that where he broke his helmet? I will go with Daredevil on this. "
"@cpt_linger said:"Does freeze have cryokenisis in this fight? "Must be some uber version of freeze ,cause he does'nt have anything like that from what i recall. "
Sorry, just read the first post again, they both have their standard equipment. Freeze gets a form of cryokenisis in Underworld Unleashed Neron gives him these powers, but they taken off him by Donna troy, GL and Purgatory.
I still think his armor can withstand anything DD can throw at him. And it's not like his freeze gun is completely useless and he's as slow as a turtle...
" @entropy_aegis said:" @PirateKing69 said:Yep i think that was the scan i was talking about thanks "" @entropy_aegis said:Yup,brightest day 14. "" Daredevil wins,last i saw freeze bruce defeated him in one punch. "is that where he broke his helmet? I will go with Daredevil on this. "
dont mention it.
The fact he's slow and has horrible aim means daredevil will pretty much be untouched,unless they are fighting in an enclosed space which freeze can keep blasting the surroundings.
and i have not read underworld unleashed,is'nt that the stroy where mongul dies and joker offers his soul for cigars ?LMFAO.
"@entropy_aegis: Yes thats the one, but the Joker gets double crossed by Neron "
Neron could'nt give him some cigars?
"@cpt_linger said:"@entropy_aegis: Yes thats the one, but the Joker gets double crossed by Neron "Neron could'nt give him some cigars? "
No LoL. sends him directly to hell. "do not pass go" but then joker and luthor team up to get neron back. great read.... like... 11 years ago
This isn't really fair anyway you cut it.If we assume this is Freeze with this armor that DD supposedly can't break then DD has no way to win and if it's a Freeze with a weaker armor that DD can break..he will make quick work of Freeze.
" @cpt_linger said:There was the freeze that fought Superman in No Man's Land."Does freeze have cryokenisis in this fight? "Must be some uber version of freeze ,cause he does'nt have anything like that from what i recall. "
Saying ''Batman beats Freeze, Daredevil can do it too'' is not even an argument, Batman is probably much stronger than Daredevil, he broke bulletproof glass with a kick and benched over 1000 lbs which i never recalled Matt has done.
Batman also uses special equipment to deal with Freeze, heat gauntlets and stuffs like that which Matt can't get his hands on. By that being said Freeze armor is bulletproof so Daredevil can't harm him, Freeze just needs to land 1 or 2 hits and its over.
Saying ''Batman beats Freeze, Daredevil can do it too'' is not even an argument, Batman is probably much stronger than Daredevil, he broke bulletproof glass with a kick and benched over 1000 lbs which i never recalled Matt has done.
Batman also uses special equipment to deal with Freeze, heat gauntlets and stuffs like that which Matt can't get his hands on. By that being said Freeze armor is bulletproof so Daredevil can't harm him, Freeze just needs to land 1 or 2 hits and its over.
Meh. They are both ridiculous. Matt casually tossed a bar with 400 lbs on it at some thugs. It's all beyond realistic. Coupled with his keep away, he should be able to either break Freeze himself or win via environmental factor.
@leonkarlen123: Daredevil is stronger than batman, faster than batman, and daredevil has a radar sense which has on many occasions been proven to be more efficient than Spiermans Spidey Sense. Freeze inst tagging Matt with out CIS
@serrure: Maybe you want to prove how Matt is stronger than Bruce? He is not really faster than Batman, he just have more agility.
@leonkarlen123: I can prove how DD is stronger than Batman just with math. You said Batman benched 1000lbs. DD swing around a 400lbs weight "like it was 50lbs" according to a man in the same panel. The way he held held the bar to swing it was in the position where he curled it. According to bodybuilders, a man of Daredevil's size (200lbs) in peak physical condition should be curling 200lbs. If he curls 400 like it's 50, that means his peak would be 1600lbs. Curling. A 200lbs man who curls 200lbs should bench over 2x that weight, but we'll just leave it at 2x. That means DD would be benching 3200lbs. While this is totally unreasonable for real life, this is how the math works out. And if one regular human can bench 1000lbs in comics, another can bench 3200lbs. Just using these facts proves how much stronger DD is, it makes no sense here, but comics are comics
@rootsunderdog: Its a one time scan which can most likely be PIS, and proof that he did that? put a image here.
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