Daredevil Vs Joker

Standard Equipment
Fight: Mall (No People)

Win: Death

Both In Character

Who takes it?

Daredevil would bust his a$$. He is an all out better fighter than the Joker.

 I might caution against characterizing Batman as being “better” than Daredevil, Batman has more formal training but DD brings other skills and superpowers to the table. In any case, Joker’s unique psychosis might make it difficult for DD to read him and Jokers gadgets can be confounding for opponents not familiar with him. Having said that Daredevil would get his bearing and finish this fight fairly quickly.     

Daredevil Curbstomp.Unless CIS kicks in.Joker has those nails and blood with which he may catch Murdock by suprise(CIS ofcourse).@Bucketz:
Joker won't be familiar with Daredevil at all,and Batman has oneshotted him more than once.

This needs way more description. If it is straight hand to hand Joker has no chance in hell. But if Joker is aloud to tap his arsenal and given some preparation it is a whole new ball park. Countless times the Joker has had the chance to kill Batman but didn't between his sheer need of BAtman and the moment not being "right". The Joker is a chemical engineering and tactical genius he could easily come up with a way to take out Daredevil if given the time.

Joker wouldn't evem touch DD without prep

                    Joker wouldn't evem touch DD without prep

                   

               

This.

DD with his radar is second in the art of avoidance only to Spiderman with a spidersense on steroids. The Joker does not get the last laugh here.

Joker because of his gadgets

If Joker had prep this would be a better fight. *cough cough* change it to "Joker has prep." cough cough* ;P

Joker wins by default, Op say's both in character and win by death DD dosnt usually kill 

It wouldn't suprise me if he killed the Joker

Joker if with prep, DD otherwise.

DD stomps the Joker every time.

DD stomps the Joker every time.

Joker wins by default, Op say's both in character and win by death DD dosnt usually kill 

Daredevil wins fairly easily.

Daredevil will wipe that smile off of his face.

Joker loses..

@Nefarious said:

Daredevil would bust his a$$. He is an all out better fighter than the Joker.

What stops the Joker from filling the mall with Joker Venom? The Joker is immune to it so he can just sit within a cloud and tell terrible jokes while Daredevil laughs to death. Daredevil's super senses would make the stuff even more effective as he would pick it up from further away.

Daredevil's recent Shadowland's turn proves his corruptibility which makes him fair game for the Joker to kill.

Daredevil, like any other street leveler who is not Batman or completely incorruptible, will die laughing. Joker Venom is one of the most potent gases in comics, it works on New Gods like Grayven, Son of Darkseid. If anything, the Joker's CIS is the only thing that potentially saves some of them.

@DedmanWalkin said:

What stops the Joker from filling the mall with Joker Venom?

The fact that prep is not stated in the OP. Daredevil one-shots him and calls it a day.

Yeah, the Joker carries Joker Venom on him in a variety of forms, aerosolized, liquid, and his own blood at all times. Daredevil laughs himself to death and the Joker goes about his day.

He's not going to get a chance to use that Joker venom before DD kills him.

What stops the Joker from filling the mall with Joker Venom? 

Daredevil's recent Shadowland's turn proves his corruptibility which makes him fair game for the Joker to kill.

If anything, the Joker's CIS is the only thing that potentially saves some of them.

@entropy_aegis said:

@Vance Astro said:

DD stomps the Joker every time.

DD 10/10.

@DedmanWalkin said:

Yeah, the Joker carries Joker Venom on him in a variety of forms, aerosolized, liquid, and his own blood at all times. Daredevil laughs himself to death and the Joker goes about his day.

And Daredevil is just going to take a bathroom break and allow the Joker to fill up the mall with that stuff? Somehow, I doubt that. Joker gets a billy club to the face.

Daredevil often just rushes people he has no knowledge of after appearing through unknown means before them? Sure he has some inkling that he should kill this person since bloodlust has been activated but Daredevil does not just attack random people he has never met before without provocation. That is totally out of character for Daredevil unless you have some scans of him just going all out on a random person he has never met before? So Daredevil will begin by attempting to ascertain what is going on. The Joker's Super Sanity immediately kicks in and he becomes a different person. You know like when he usurped Mr. Mxy's powers, became Oberon Sexton, and killed and became the magician Loxias on a lark where he took out Zatanna. He is a master manipulator and an incredibly persuasive actor. He'll easily convince Daredevil to lower his guard to go in search of answers. Daredevil is not a detective, he will be completely taken aback when the Joker finds the most opportune moment to strike.

Joker loves the crap out of Joker Venom, how many times has he threatened to deploy mass quantities throughout the city? Also, killing random people who he has no previous knowledge of is the Joker's favorite past time. I see no real issue with the Joker killing a random person he has never come across using a weapon that bears his name, that flows in his veins, that is possibly responsible for his very existence. Also, Super Sanity means nothing is out of character for the Joker.

Batman has been possessed by the Apokoliptian God, Yuurd the Unknown, and was completely in control of his actions, something that neither Wonder Woman or Superman were capable of doing. Batman is completely incorruptible, I did not jest. The Joker also overwhelmed a Greek God (Either Phobos or Deimos, the sons of Ares) who was possessing him when he grew tired of waiting for the fun to start. Both Batman and the Joker both have incredible will power and are completely incorruptible. Daredevil doesn't have anything on either of them in that regard.

Also, the Joker could easily tank some hits from Daredevil like he does from Batman and then deploy his gas.

The whole "Super Sanity" theory was mooted in ONE one-shot graphic novel, and even there it was only considered a THEORY. How does it suddenly take precedence as the definitive view of how Joker's mind works?

And Batman is not incorruptible. Ask the Blackrock, the Kryptonite Man, Despero, and several others.

Seriously, Joker takes one club to the face and he's done.

lulz Daredevil.
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Daredevil often just rushes people he has no knowledge of after appearing through unknown means before them? Sure he has some inkling that he should kill this person since bloodlust has been activated but Daredevil does not just attack random people he has never met before without provocation. That is totally out of character for Daredevil unless you have some scans of him just going all out on a random person he has never met before? So Daredevil will begin by attempting to ascertain what is going on. The Joker's Super Sanity immediately kicks in and he becomes a different person. You know like when he usurped Mr. Mxy's powers, became Oberon Sexton, and killed and became the magician Loxias on a lark where he took out Zatanna. He is a master manipulator and an incredibly persuasive actor. He'll easily convince Daredevil to lower his guard to go in search of answers. Daredevil is not a detective, he will be completely taken aback when the Joker finds the most opportune moment to strike.

Joker loves the crap out of Joker Venom, how many times has he threatened to deploy mass quantities throughout the city? Also, killing random people who he has no previous knowledge of is the Joker's favorite past time. I see no real issue with the Joker killing a random person he has never come across using a weapon that bears his name, that flows in his veins, that is possibly responsible for his very existence. Also, Super Sanity means nothing is out of character for the Joker.

Batman has been possessed by the Apokoliptian God, Yuurd the Unknown, and was completely in control of his actions, something that neither Wonder Woman or Superman were capable of doing. Batman is completely incorruptible, I did not jest. The Joker also overwhelmed a Greek God (Either Phobos or Deimos, the sons of Ares) who was possessing him when he grew tired of waiting for the fun to start. Both Batman and the Joker both have incredible will power and are completely incorruptible. Daredevil doesn't have anything on either of them in that regard.

Also, the Joker could easily tank some hits from Daredevil like he does from Batman and then deploy his gas.

Joker doesn't have a chance in a direct fight

Three to one on Daredevil over Joker. Daredevil is leagues better than Joker, but you never know what Joker might have up his sleeve. I can definitely see the possibility to Joker doing something so unexpected that it catches DD off guard and knocks him out.

Adding a few more factors, Daredevils odds way go up if he knows who the Joker is and how he operates in advance. Joker's odds go to about even with Daredevil if Joker has prep time.

I don't think Matt would really hesitate to kill the Joker...he's killed people less evil than that before. 
In a straight up random encounter...Matt takes it without pause. 
If the Joker has Prep it's more difficult but I'd still put my money on Matt. His enhanced senses will help him avoid any of Jokers little traps and such.

Joker took several hits to the head from a crow bar and was still conscious and you think a billy club is just going to KO him? The Joker also gets regularly beaten to a pulp by Batman and he is still fully conscious. He has taken crashes, explosions, gunshots and still remained conscious.

Super Sanity is a canon explanation of why he always appears differently from appearance to appearance. It has also been reinforced by multiple people throughout, pre-crazy Harleen Quinzel, Damian Wayne, the Martian Manhunter. It is also reinforced by the story Clown at Midnight which tells of how he killed all his previous henchmen so that he could rebirth himself. The fact is that the Joker, for all his craziness, is not crazy. Every aspect of his character is very potent malinger meant to protect him from the justice system, Batman, and every person on the planet. Also, Canon is Canon, you don't get to decide what is and what is not canon.

Batman used the Blackrock's power to allow him to save Superman, he was not corrupted by it as denoted by the fact that Superman was willing to kill Blackrock Batman and Blackrock fled because it knew that Batman would rather die. Despero is a telepath, telepathy does not equal possession as it is a direct physical rewriting of the person's brain. He could no better resist telepathy than resist Superman using him like a puppet. I believe Batman used Kryptonite Man to heal himself after being wounded but he was not corrupted but their have been many Kryptonite Men and I can't be sure which you are talking about. Batman uses bad guys to solve problems all the time.

Joker took several hits to the head from a crow bar and was still conscious and you think a billy club is just going to KO him? The Joker also gets regularly beaten to a pulp by Batman and he is still fully conscious. He has taken crashes, explosions, gunshots and still remained conscious.

@Shawnbaby said:

I don't think Matt would really hesitate to kill the Joker...he's killed people less evil than that before. In a straight up random encounter...Matt takes it without pause. If the Joker has Prep it's more difficult but I'd still put my money on Matt. His enhanced senses will help him avoid any of Jokers little traps and such.

I was under the impression that Daredevil doesn't kill, except in Shadowland when he wasted Bullseye...

@Shawnbaby said:

I don't think Matt would really hesitate to kill the Joker...he's killed people less evil than that before. In a straight up random encounter...Matt takes it without pause. If the Joker has Prep it's more difficult but I'd still put my money on Matt. His enhanced senses will help him avoid any of Jokers little traps and such.

I was under the impression that Daredevil doesn't kill, except in Shadowland when he wasted Bullseye...

@vance_astro: I agree, I feel DD should win most fights with Joker, but I think Joker has a better shot at beating him (especially in a random encounter) then Batman does. With DD not willing to kill and of course Mr. J willing to do so, and put anyone at risk, DD could lose some to him, but in a fight with Bats in a random encounter both will keep bystanders out of it and DD's enhanced abilities should give him the advantage, but back to him VS Joker, DD takes 6 out of 10.

@iheartzombies92: There was absolutely no need to bump this. It was a spite/stomp/mismatch. No need to quote a year old post to prove a point already established.

Calling in some moderators to lock this thread.

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Daredevil lolstomps.