Daredevil vs Captain America (H2H) - Battles

#1 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

No shield or club. Just H2H on the rooftops of Hell's Kitchen. They start 30 feet apart.

Round 1 comic versions.

Round 2 movie versions.

#2 Posted by Dex_Starr (4773 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Captain America wins both.

#3 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Hohenheim_of_light: Care to elaborate? Without his shield, doesn't Matt have better fighting skills, and still has his amazing senses. I know Cap is above in the strength, endurance department.

#4 Posted by k4tzm4n (30858 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Dudebro, done countless times.

And like Hohenheim said, Rogers wins.

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#5 Posted by Dex_Starr (4773 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Edgeworth_11 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light: Care to elaborate? Without his shield, doesn't Matt have better fighting skills, and still has his amazing senses. I know Cap is above in the strength, endurance department.

Daredevil doesn't have better fighting skills, at the very best he might be on par with Cap. As far as his senses go they've never worked on characters like Cap like they would against regular canon fodder enemies. It's still helpful but Cap has bigger advantages in his strength, stamina and speed all in which he outclasses Daredevil in.

#6 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.

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#7 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

Dudebro, done countless times.
And like Hohenheim said, Rogers wins.

Even H2H, dudebro?

#8 Posted by k4tzm4n (30858 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Edgeworth_11: ....yes, as implied by agreeing with Hohenheim.

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#9 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Just watched the Daredevil directors cut last night, was quite good! loved it! i wonder why they cut out that much of the movie in the theatrical version :(

If you haven't seen the Blue Ray Director's cut, WHATCHA WAITING FOR!!? :D

#10 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: No,silly, I meant if this fight was already done H2H way.:P

#11 Posted by k4tzm4n (30858 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

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#12 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Captain America wins both.

This.

#13 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Yes, I was probably saddest that a sequel didn't come out :P but if you haven't seen the directors cut, check it out with like over twenty minutes of extra content that makes the film even better.

#14 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.

Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?

#15 Posted by Dex_Starr (4773 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence

#16 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@k4tzm4n said:
That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.
It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence

all this time I can't believe I couldn't see

kept in the dark but you were there in front of me

I’ve been sleeping a thousand years it seems

got to open my eyes to everything

Without a thought, without a voice, without a soul

don't let me die here

there must be something more

bring me to life

#17 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:
Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.
Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?

DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.

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#18 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k560/baronhelmutzemo/various2/DaredevilCaptainAmerica-036.jpg
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k560/baronhelmutzemo/various2/DaredevilCaptainAmerica-037.jpg

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#19 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Captain America is slightly better than Daredevil in my opinion...

#20 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis said:
@Morpheus_ said:
Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.
Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?
DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.

Is'nt that kinda like Ra's calling Bane the most dangerous man alive?lol.

#21 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:
@entropy_aegis said:
@Morpheus_ said:
Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.
Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?
DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.
Is'nt that kinda like Ra's calling Bane the most dangerous man alive?lol.

Well, the one is applicable to multiple aspects of the characters (intellect, resources, applications have a lot to do with it), while the other is strictly referring to a single one (ie skill), so I'd take Cap's statement more at face value. Not that I believe it's a reason why Daredevil would win but it's very high praise.

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#22 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis said:
@Morpheus_ said:
@entropy_aegis said:
@Morpheus_ said:
Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.
Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?
DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.
Is'nt that kinda like Ra's calling Bane the most dangerous man alive?lol.
Well, the one is applicable to multiple aspects of the characters (intellect, resources, applications have a lot to do with it), while the other is strictly referring to a single one (ie skill), so I'd take Cap's statement more at face value. Not that I believe it's a reason why Daredevil would win but it's very high praise.

Which comic is that from btw?

#23 Posted by k4tzm4n (30858 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@k4tzm4n said:
That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.
It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence

Yeah, Bullseye on the bike + Drowning Pool made me go :-/

I didn't mind Evanescence, seeing as I liked them when the movie came out :X

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#24 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:
@k4tzm4n said:
That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.
It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence
Yeah, Bullseye on the bike + Drowning Pool made me go :-/
I didn't mind Evanescence, seeing as I liked them when the movie came out :X

I loved the Evanescence song,but now i think it's waay too overused.

#25 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: @entropy_aegis: Captain America/Daredevil: Dead on Arrival. Same issue that proves Cap can fight while blindfolded.

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#26 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis: @entropy_aegis: Captain America/Daredevil: Dead on Arrival. Same issue that proves Cap can fight while blindfolded.

Thanks.

#27 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: The story isn't anything special, but it was cool feat-wise, for both.

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#28 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

In h2h, i believe it will be either 5/5 or cap gets a slight majority. I believe h2h, they are even but cap's superior stats might give him the advantage. Of course that's assuming that DD's senses won't help him to even the score.

:)

#29 Posted by Owie (2702 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Comic version, no weapons, I think DD could take Cap maybe 7/10. I think DD's skills are higher and Cap's normal fighting style is more dependant on using his shield than DD's is on his billy clubs. Also, Cap just doesn't do street level fights with the consistence and intensity that DD does. Basically DD is always fighting street levelers which I think would keep him in top form. Whereas Cap is always off saving the universe from the Infinity Gauntlet or some such. He fights street levelers, of course, but not against villains of such consistently high level as DD's foes.

Movie version, I think Cap takes it. His strength and speed were enhanced way beyond the comic version.

#30 Posted by MyronLee26 (1066 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

In Hand-to-Hand fighting, I'd give Captain America a slight edge. Daredevil has a pretty impressive resume in the guys that he's defeated, hell, he even took down Mephisto. Lol.

It just sucks how the fights that Cap has been in with Daredevil, DD was most of the time hindered in some way, even the time where Daredevil stormed the Avengers mansion, DD was brainwashed.

But if it came down to it where they were not holding back, No Shield, No Billy Club, I'd give this one to Captain America.

#31 Posted by progenitor (7405 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Going with the Captain on this one, Matt is good, but he still lost against a brainwashed Cap.

#32 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1032 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: DD one said he wouldn't enjoy a fight with Cap, feeling that Steve is playing with big boys not being a street leveler as DD is. 90s, DD was chasing a crazy guy having an american flag on his face, named Nuke. Cool stories. So, I think that Cap could beat Daredevil, but I won't say it'll be an easy one.

#33 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Cap also lost to an out of control Daredevil. By the way, Matt was feigning defeat against Cap in Street of Poison.

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#34 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Phaedrusgr said:

@Morpheus_: DD one said he wouldn't enjoy a fight with Cap, feeling that Steve is playing with big boys not being a street leveler as DD is.

I don't remember it. Do you recall an issue # off hand?

DD was chasing a crazy guy having an american flag on his face, named Nuke. Cool stories.

In Born Again? That was in the 80s, and I agree it's a cool story.

So, I think that Cap could beat Daredevil, but I won't say it'll be an easy one.

I think the same, just playing devil's advocate.

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#35 Posted by Fetts (3160 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I agree. Cap should take this.

#36 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Everyone needs to give the devil his due.

#37 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1032 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: Man, it was 80s? Damn, I'm old... lol

#38 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@progenitor said:

Going with the Captain on this one, Matt is good, but he still lost against a brainwashed Cap.

If you are talking about street of poison fight, it was pretty circumstantial and it kinda favored cap. DD was not really at his best at the time( as he has stated ) and cap was almost bloodlusted, But even at these conditions, Matt was not doing that bad, since he was able to dodge or land some hits on cap and even threw his shield away.

:)

#39 Posted by RaidenAzreal (9 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Cap is is the best. He would take DD down fast.

#40 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Sinner!

#41 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@RaidenAzreal: He was never able to put him down fast in any of their fights, how would he do it now?

:)

#42 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@spidey 15 said:

@RaidenAzreal: He was never able to put him down fast in any of their fights, how would he do it now?
:)

Charisma.

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#43 Posted by Andy Steven Summers (4901 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Charisma.

Carpenter.

Mmm...

#44 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: LOL, something that i don't think that cap posses for that specific fight...

:P

#45 Posted by yumyumbubblegum (618 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Comic: Captain America

Movie: Daredevil

Captain America the movie has to be one of the worst comic adaptations ever. It was extremely ironic when the plot tried to divert the character of Steve Rogers from being a mere propaganda tool, but when you finish watching the movie, the lack of substance makes the movie as a whole just that. My biggest qualm with the movie is the lack of physical training that Steve Rogers undertakes within the movie. The after credit scene shows Steve boxing like a pro, and the director expects us to believe that those motor skills also come from the serum?

#46 Posted by god_spawn (30400 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Andy Steven Summers said:

@Morpheus_ said:
Charisma.
Carpenter.
Mmm...

I second this.

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#47 Posted by god_spawn (30400 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Steve after an awesome fight.

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#48 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Andy Steven Summers said:

@Morpheus_ said:
Charisma.
Carpenter.
Mmm...

ROFL...XD

#49 Edited by Donovan Montgomery (5263 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Comic versions, for the most part they are fairly even due to DD enhanced senses, but Cap will still win the slight majority.
Movie versions, I'm only half way through Captain America (not a good idea to start watching a movie at midnight when you are already almost totally asleep), but with that initial run when he first got enhanced, I'm gonna have to give this to him as well {with a slightly larger margin than the comic versions}....and I will be watching the rest of the movie tonight :)

#50 Posted by D3athstroke (3655 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Daredevil