#1 Edited by Raw_Material (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules/Settings

  • Earth-616 Versions
  • One Day Prep
  • Standard Gear Applies
  • Morals Off
  • Unpopulated Location At Night
  • The Cap is only allowed to block with his shield
  • Win by Incapacitation, KO, or Submission

#2 Posted by nickzambuto (12889 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America by a smidge.

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#3 Posted by Perethorn (3212 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil wins after a truly beat up. Then they remember they are pals and go to kick Kingpin butt.

#4 Posted by BullPR (667 posts) - - Show Bio

I read that a lonng time ago and Daredevil was clearly below.

I would say Cap in a confined environment, too close to call in the open in the city, and obviously DD during the night.

(Edit: DD#43, 1968...)

#5 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America has already beat dd several times and I can't ever recall dd beating cap.

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#7 Edited by Cyclops4President (587 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate to always follow the crowd but I must vote, disheartingly, for Captain America. I believe Cap is physically just a bigger guy, stronger, faster, but with the same agility. It's like two world class boxers, one is just a lightweight and the other is a heavy weight. Cap takes some licks but ultimately takes the victory.

#8 Edited by Zijuun (854 posts) - - Show Bio

@cyclops4president said:

I hate to always follow the crowd but I must vote, disheartingly, for Captain America. I believe Cap is physically just a bigger guy, stronger, faster, but with the same agility. It's like two world class boxers, one is just a lightweight and the other is a heavy weight. Cap takes some licks but ultimately takes the victory.

Yeah, I can see what you're saying there, still "weight" or "heaviness" has nothing to do with it. In this case it sort of does, yes, Cap is almost just as agile and fast as Daredevil and can fight better if not just as good. So yeah, I give it to Cap since his peak human abilities push him for a "heavy" win if you will. XD

Preparation shouldn't matter much here since both aren't the best at preparing for something or preparing better than the other and the shield's only for blocking too.

Seconded.

Zijuun.

#9 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5378 posts) - - Show Bio

Stevie

#10 Posted by Vance Astro (91112 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say this is an even split. Both characters have shown they can deal with any advantage the other may have. I'd give it to neither 5/10. I don't see Cap's strength being much of an advantage. Daredevil can even the odds by making sure he is hitting Cap more than he's getting hit. I think Radar sense is more of an edge than people will give it credit for.

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#11 Posted by nickzambuto (12889 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America has already beat dd several times and I can't ever recall dd beating cap.

Daredevil solod the entire Avengers including Cap once while bloodlusted.

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#12 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto:

Most of the people in the avengers have solo'd the avengers while bloodlusted

#13 Posted by Saren (25274 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil solo'd a team of street-level Avengers when the lights were off and they couldn't see anything. Apart from that Cap stomped DD during Streets of Poison (context applies; Cap was out of his mind on drugs and Matt was out of practice), and more recently in Waid's run they had a stalemate of sorts.

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#14 Posted by nickzambuto (12889 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil solo'd a team of street-level Avengers when the lights were off and they couldn't see anything. Apart from that Cap stomped DD during Streets of Poison (context applies; Cap was out of his mind on drugs and Matt was out of practice), and more recently in Waid's run they had a stalemate of sorts.

So? Good on Daredevil, he knows how to fight smart.

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#15 Posted by Saren (25274 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane said:

Daredevil solo'd a team of street-level Avengers when the lights were off and they couldn't see anything. Apart from that Cap stomped DD during Streets of Poison (context applies; Cap was out of his mind on drugs and Matt was out of practice), and more recently in Waid's run they had a stalemate of sorts.

So? Good on Daredevil, he knows how to fight smart.

He was also bloodlusted, and they didn't know he was there or that anyone was planning to attack them......if ambushing a group of unaware, visually-impaired opponents counts as fighting smart, Murdock is a veritable Midnighter.

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#16 Edited by cooljammy18 (835 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Daredevil, but I think Cap would take a slight majority. In this fight where Cap is restricted to using the shield for strictly defensive purposes, I can see Daredevil pulling through. Along with the environment and other factors, Matt can earn some good victories, but in a straight up fight, Cap wins more than not. It should be acknowledged that Matt is severely skilled and Cap mostly wins for his physicality though.

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#17 Edited by nickzambuto (12889 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@citizenbane said:

Daredevil solo'd a team of street-level Avengers when the lights were off and they couldn't see anything. Apart from that Cap stomped DD during Streets of Poison (context applies; Cap was out of his mind on drugs and Matt was out of practice), and more recently in Waid's run they had a stalemate of sorts.

So? Good on Daredevil, he knows how to fight smart.

He was also bloodlusted, and they didn't know he was there or that anyone was planning to attack them......if ambushing a group of unaware, visually-impaired opponents counts as fighting smart, Murdock is a veritable Midnighter.

It's not like he even snuck up on Captain America. After Daredevil twoshotted Beast, Cap knew exactly where he was and tried to tackle him, but Matt countered and used Steve's own momentum to throw him, and ended the fight.

Captain America getting KOd so easily was probably PIS, but Daredevil outskilling him wasn't.

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#18 Edited by Saren (25274 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@citizenbane said:

Daredevil solo'd a team of street-level Avengers when the lights were off and they couldn't see anything. Apart from that Cap stomped DD during Streets of Poison (context applies; Cap was out of his mind on drugs and Matt was out of practice), and more recently in Waid's run they had a stalemate of sorts.

So? Good on Daredevil, he knows how to fight smart.

He was also bloodlusted, and they didn't know he was there or that anyone was planning to attack them......if ambushing a group of unaware, visually-impaired opponents counts as fighting smart, Murdock is a veritable Midnighter.

It's not like he even snuck up on Captain America. After Daredevil twoshotted Beast, Cap knew exactly where he was and tried to tackle him, but Matt countered and used Steve's own momentum to throw him, and ended the fight.

Captain America getting KOd so easily was probably PIS, but Daredevil outskilling him wasn't.

Sure, outskilling someone who can't see whom he's even fighting and isn't used to fighting blind probably wasn't PIS for the man who spends his entire life fighting blind --- and was bloodlusted to boot. Honestly, that fight was stacked to Matt's advantage from the beginning. I wouldn't consider it any more definitive than the one-sided beatdown Cap gave DD in SOP.

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#19 Posted by nickzambuto (12889 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@citizenbane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@citizenbane said:

Daredevil solo'd a team of street-level Avengers when the lights were off and they couldn't see anything. Apart from that Cap stomped DD during Streets of Poison (context applies; Cap was out of his mind on drugs and Matt was out of practice), and more recently in Waid's run they had a stalemate of sorts.

So? Good on Daredevil, he knows how to fight smart.

He was also bloodlusted, and they didn't know he was there or that anyone was planning to attack them......if ambushing a group of unaware, visually-impaired opponents counts as fighting smart, Murdock is a veritable Midnighter.

It's not like he even snuck up on Captain America. After Daredevil twoshotted Beast, Cap knew exactly where he was and tried to tackle him, but Matt countered and used Steve's own momentum to throw him, and ended the fight.

Captain America getting KOd so easily was probably PIS, but Daredevil outskilling him wasn't.

Sure, outskilling someone who can't see whom he's even fighting and isn't used to fighting blind probably wasn't PIS for the man who spends his entire life fighting blind --- and was bloodlusted to boot. Honestly, that fight was stacked to Matt's advantage from the beginning. I wouldn't consider it any more definitive than the one-sided beatdown Cap gave DD in SOP.

Fair enough, I guess they even each other out.

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#20 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

Even though Matt may outskill Steve or Steve can outmatch Matt in terms of strenght I think this fight is too even.They would both give each other a good beatdown and will have a great fight but in the end I can't see any of them coming out victorious.

#21 Posted by Raw_Material (3209 posts) - - Show Bio
@tdk_1997 said:

Even though Matt may outskill Steve or Steve can outmatch Matt in terms of strenght I think this fight is too even.They would both give each other a good beatdown and will have a great fight but in the end I can't see any of them coming out victorious.

So is this that one "too close to call" battle? This was pretty much the reason I wanted this fight out there on the forums, to see which one will come up on top especially with the settings provided.

#22 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm...general consensus seems to be Cap by a slight edge, but mostly evenly-matched. Interesting.

#23 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2780 posts) - - Show Bio

In a series of ten I'd give Matt 6/10 because of the stipulations,,in a straight fight I'd say they are dead even

#24 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

Even though Matt may outskill Steve or Steve can outmatch Matt in terms of strenght I think this fight is too even.They would both give each other a good beatdown and will have a great fight but in the end I can't see any of them coming out victorious.

So is this that one "too close to call" battle? This was pretty much the reason I wanted this fight out there on the forums, to see which one will come up on top especially with the settings provided.

Yeah,it's a pretty close to call battle.Both are pretty skilled and I can see them blocking each other non stop till the end of the battle.

#25 Posted by Raw_Material (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#26 Posted by Raw_Material (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

bump x2

#27 Posted by ComeOutAndPlay (329 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil

#28 Posted by dondave (34351 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap

#29 Edited by SirNickTheEpic (589 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto:

daredevil soloed when and what comic I must read :D

oh and for an answer daredevil those reflexes and nerve strikes

#30 Posted by Auction_Sniper (1247 posts) - - Show Bio

"The Cap is only allowed to block with his shield"

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#31 Posted by patrat18 (8772 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap.

#32 Posted by ChildoftheAtom (486 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil wins after a truly beat up. Then they remember they are pals and go to kick Kingpin butt.

This. Its a good thing Cap cant throw his shield.

#33 Posted by jashro44 (19577 posts) - - Show Bio

@perethorn said:

Daredevil wins after a truly beat up. Then they remember they are pals and go to kick Kingpin butt.

This. Its a good thing Cap cant throw his shield.

I'd argue that the OP's restriction of cap not being allowed to toss his shield to be beneficial to cap honestly. His shield gets caught a lot and considering daredevils done it 3 times...

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