Battle takes place the same place Cap fought Batroc. Both battles are random encounters. Battle are won by KO.
Round 1- Daredevil gets his black suit
Round 2- Daredevil gets his red suit
Battle takes place the same place Cap fought Batroc. Both battles are random encounters. Battle are won by KO.
Round 1- Daredevil gets his black suit
Round 2- Daredevil gets his red suit
Batroc is one of the best h2h fighters on earth that isn't meta, he would wreck DD from the netflix series.
Batroc took a pounding and hits from a superhuman. Did lose but was far faster and DD from the videos lacks power.
Daredevil's hits should be sufficient. He still took down Kingpin and oneshotted fully grown men.
Batroc is one of the best h2h fighters on earth that isn't meta, he would wreck DD from the netflix series.
Where do you get that from? Captain America walked all over him, Batroc stood no chance at all.
Daredevil.
Batroc is pretty quick and will land hits on Matt but Matt won't be put down, and eventually Batroc will be knocked out. His skill, agility, and resilience will help with that.
Round 1: Batroc, just barely.
Round 2: Daredevil
But this is the first fight i've seen involving Netflix Daredevil that was actually a good discussion. Bravo.
Daredevil. Both rounds.
Toss up honestly. Batroc has some powerful kicks and even managed to block/parry a couple of Cap's strikes even after he got serious. Also when Cap knocked him out he wasn't down for long (I mean really, he was up and moving in not time) so his durability is pretty good too.
Batroc all day. Kept up with Cap pretty well. Cap would cripple Matt with a few full strength punches.
In terms of fighting skill Daredevil is probably more comparable to Captain America himself. He was able to defeat nine Russian gangsters all at once, some of whom were armed, while he was so injured that there was no physical advantage at all, just pure skill. He was also able to defeat Fisk who had a monstrous physical advantage, whereas Cap was only able to *survive* against Ultron who had a similar physical advantage. I know I know, they aren't interchangeable feats, but it gives you an idea of just how skilled Daredevil really is in the MCU for a normal street level guy. He should defeat mercenary Batroc with maybe mid diff.
Batroc all day. Kept up with Cap pretty well. Cap would cripple Matt with a few full strength punches.
That's ABC logic you know.
@avatar_of_green: Cap would also cripple Batroc with a few full strength punches.
@super_mod: ABC logic isn't infallible but in some cases it works.
If "Character X" can physically hurt Hulk then "X" can hurt Star-Lord too.
It may be ABC but it's true.
@super_mod: ABC logic isn't infallible but in some cases it works.
If "Character X" can physically hurt Hulk then "X" can hurt Star-Lord too.
It may be ABC but it's true.
Batroc didn't really hurt Cap though...like at all. So saying that Batroc would beat Matt just bc he managed to survive in a brief skirmish with a mock-serious Cap that only lasted about a min. and a half isn't sound logic nor should it be applied here.
@super_mod: ABC logic isn't infallible but in some cases it works.
If "Character X" can physically hurt Hulk then "X" can hurt Star-Lord too.
It may be ABC but it's true.
Batroc didn't really hurt Cap though...like at all. So saying that Batroc would beat Matt just bc he managed to survive in a brief skirmish with a mock-serious Cap that only lasted about a min. and a half isn't sound logic nor should it be applied here.
I agree with you 100%, but I feel I should ask, then what feats does Daredevil have?
His only feats are literally fighting Nobu (and Nobu is featles) and Kingpin, and using Kingpin's feats still means we are using A,B,C logic.
I confess, I am using A,B,C, logic to decide this outcome, because otherwise neither character has done really anything.
@super_mod: ABC logic isn't infallible but in some cases it works.
If "Character X" can physically hurt Hulk then "X" can hurt Star-Lord too.
It may be ABC but it's true.
Batroc didn't really hurt Cap though...like at all. So saying that Batroc would beat Matt just bc he managed to survive in a brief skirmish with a mock-serious Cap that only lasted about a min. and a half isn't sound logic nor should it be applied here.
I agree with you 100%, but I feel I should ask, then what feats does Daredevil have?
His only feats are literally fighting Nobu (and Nobu is featles) and Kingpin, and using Kingpin's feats still means we are using A,B,C logic.
I confess, I am using A,B,C, logic to decide this outcome, because otherwise neither character has done really anything.
Batroc tanked several blows from Cap before he got knocked out which gives you an idea of how durable;e he is. He's also really good with his feet. I think that Matt is more skilled but I also believe that Batroc may be able to match his durability. I'd say that Matt takes a good majority though.
For a regular person, Batroc actually impressed me with his performance against Cap. Yeah, he ended up losing pretty quick once Cap took off the helmet, but for a moment I wondered if Batroc was enhanced himself. Daredevil has more feats, but he struggles against non-superpowered (albeit well-trained) opponents. I think Batroc could take the majority here.
Batroc knocked Steve down a few times with his kicks, he never had a chance of beating Steve obviously but it was still pretty impressive, this one is a hard call for me, I would have liked to have seen Batroc get some action in against someone besides Steve.
On one hand Batroc has the tools to take Matt out, his offense was impressive and he was clearly skilled, his durability was pretty good as well considering he was able to get up shortly after being tackled through that door by Steve, on the other hand Matts durability was overall more impressive over the course of the series, his reaction time was impressive and he is no slouch in the martial arts department either having been trained by Stick.
I'm giving Matt the win more often than not because while they both fought and lost their respective hand to hand fights against skilled challengers in Steve/Nobu, Matt did go on to defeat Nobu by taking tactical advantage of his environment and he beat Fisk who showed some pretty good power and fighting skill in his own right. Batroc is encumbered by the fact that his only showing is a loss, an admirable effort considering his opposition but a loss none the less.
Daredevil
I should have checked to see if someone had done this before.
It's a great fight.
Awareness - Batroc is really good, as seen in the scene where he becomes aware of Cap's shield in time to duck it. That said, super senses + radar and this belongs to DD.
Power - DD has taken out tough guys with one blow and his style, influenced by boxing, is powerful. Batroc knocks Captain America down with kicks three times, twice when the kick is shielded. Slight edge to Batroc.
Strength - Both are very close to the same size and in excellent condition. I can't see any evidence to tip this either way.
Speed - Batroc pulls off some really nice feint-kicks that look quicker than anything I can remember Matt doing. Slight edge to him.
Durability - Batroc takes two knees, one shield slam, three kicks, two punches, and getting tackled through a door before he is beaten in his fight with Cap. That's impressive but I'd argue that DD takes at least that much damage in the Potter and Kingpin fights, and more in the Nobu fight, and goes on to win.
Aggressiveness - Batroc takes this hands down. His attack initially has Cap on the ropes because of surprise and its unrelenting nature. It's only when Cap breaks his rhythm and restarts the fight that he gains the advantage.
Acrobatics - Batroc is very good, as his handspring escape from Cap's throw shows, but he never shows us what does, and it's not as well integrated into his fighting style. Advantage DD.
It could easily go either way but, and DD's sticks would be a difference baker if he was using them. I'll say narrow victory for Batroc in round 1 and an equally narrow win for DD in round 2.
I would like to review my opinion, I initially said Daredevil 6/10 (season 1) but I finished seeing all the season 2 yesterday, my opinion has changed.
Daredevil 8/10 or 9/10
Season 2 Daredevil definitely wins with newer batons and red suit. DD out-classes him in skill by now, while Batroc's only advantage now is strength.
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