

Ghost Rider
penence stare or no stare
" @Morpheus_ said:That's what happens because I have not played Devil May Cry...What do you think of this fight? I know nothing about Dante to actually participate." @SwaggaB0y said:It's one of Dante's abilities. "" Quicksilver ftw "The sarcasm definitely eludes me in this case. "
" @Sparda said:Dante has ridiculously insane reaction times, and is a powerful opponent with some deadly weapons......hell, he could even slow time to a point where it was close to stopping for a while. I think he could dodge a lot of what GR throws at him, but unfortunately, I don't know a lot about Ghost Rider." @Morpheus_ said:That's what happens because I have not played Devil May Cry...What do you think of this fight? I know nothing about Dante to actually participate. "" @SwaggaB0y said:It's one of Dante's abilities. "" Quicksilver ftw "The sarcasm definitely eludes me in this case. "
" @Morpheus_ said:He can make people flop on the ground like a fish out of water lol" @Sparda said:Dante has ridiculously insane reaction times, and is a powerful opponent with some deadly weapons......hell, he could even slow time to a point where it was close to stopping for a while. I think he could dodge a lot of what GR throws at him, but unfortunately, I don't know a lot about Ghost Rider. Let's exchange notes, haha. What can GR do, combat-wise? "" @Morpheus_ said:That's what happens because I have not played Devil May Cry...What do you think of this fight? I know nothing about Dante to actually participate. "" @SwaggaB0y said:It's one of Dante's abilities. "" Quicksilver ftw "The sarcasm definitely eludes me in this case. "
"Would the stare work on dante?"Would Dante have had to do something that he actually felt bad about for that to work? Most everything he's done (killing, whatnot) has seemed pretty justifiable to me.
"He can make people flop on the ground like a fish out of water lol Basic attacks include hellfire. penance stare..stuff like that...I think it would be a pretty good match hence why I made it lol "Hmmm......
" @Morpheus_ said:He has complete mastery over Hellfire, which is capable of burning the soul of an opponent. I believe that this ability was capable of hurting an angel, so it should be able to hurt Dante. Also, there is the penance stare, the Rider's most infamous attack. It causes the opponent to re-live every pain he has ever inflicted just by looking at his enemy's eyes. His durability is also at great levels." @Sparda said:Dante has ridiculously insane reaction times, and is a powerful opponent with some deadly weapons......hell, he could even slow time to a point where it was close to stopping for a while. I think he could dodge a lot of what GR throws at him, but unfortunately, I don't know a lot about Ghost Rider. Let's exchange notes, haha. What can GR do, combat-wise? "" @Morpheus_ said:That's what happens because I have not played Devil May Cry...What do you think of this fight? I know nothing about Dante to actually participate. "" @SwaggaB0y said:It's one of Dante's abilities. "" Quicksilver ftw "The sarcasm definitely eludes me in this case. "
" @SwaggaB0y said:
"Would the stare work on dante?"Would Dante have had to do something that he actually felt bad about for that to work? Most everything he's done (killing, whatnot) has seemed pretty justifiable to me.
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
"He can make people flop on the ground like a fish out of water lol Basic attacks include hellfire. penance stare..stuff like that...I think it would be a pretty good match hence why I made it lol "Hmmm...... "
"He has complete mastery over Hellfire, which is capable of burning the soul of an opponent. I believe that this ability was capable of hurting an angel, so it should be able to hurt Dante. Also, there is the penance stare, the Rider's most infamous attack. It causes the opponent to re-live every pain he has ever inflicted just by looking at his enemy's eyes. His durability is also at great levels. "Does Hellfire act like normal fire? Or does it move in a different way? Radial, whatnot?
" @Morpheus_ said:Hellfire burns away at the soul and penance stare can be anywhere close enough to make eye contact."He has complete mastery over Hellfire, which is capable of burning the soul of an opponent. I believe that this ability was capable of hurting an angel, so it should be able to hurt Dante. Also, there is the penance stare, the Rider's most infamous attack. It causes the opponent to re-live every pain he has ever inflicted just by looking at his enemy's eyes. His durability is also at great levels. "Does Hellfire act like normal fire? Or does it move in a different way? Radial, whatnot? To use the Penance Stare, would GR have to get close enough to see into his eyes? If he did, I don't see that happening given how Dante is ridiculously acrobatic and agile. "
" @Morpheus_ said:GR controls both normal fire (and is also immune to it), and Hellfire, which as I said above is capable of burning both body, but most importantly, tormenting the soul. GR can project Hellfire through various parts of his body, as well. As for the penance stare, I don't believe that he actually needs to be really close. By battle forum rules, they should start facing each other at short distance. If the Rider decides to use it right from the go, I don't think Dante could stop him. But would the Rider do that? Doubtful.Ah, and even if Dante managed to "destroy" GR (break him to pieces), I think he can reform himself without much effort."He has complete mastery over Hellfire, which is capable of burning the soul of an opponent. I believe that this ability was capable of hurting an angel, so it should be able to hurt Dante. Also, there is the penance stare, the Rider's most infamous attack. It causes the opponent to re-live every pain he has ever inflicted just by looking at his enemy's eyes. His durability is also at great levels. "Does Hellfire act like normal fire? Or does it move in a different way? Radial, whatnot? To use the Penance Stare, would GR have to get close enough to see into his eyes? If he did, I don't see that happening given how Dante is ridiculously acrobatic and agile. "
" @Sparda said:I know..but Dante isnt exactly innocent
" @SwaggaB0y said:but he kills evil not the innocent. "
"Would the stare work on dante?"Would Dante have had to do something that he actually felt bad about for that to work? Most everything he's done (killing, whatnot) has seemed pretty justifiable to me.
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
"He can make people flop on the ground like a fish out of water lol Basic attacks include hellfire. penance stare..stuff like that...I think it would be a pretty good match hence why I made it lol "Hmmm...... "
" @Sparda said:You don't have to be evil for the stare to work. Having caused pain to others is enough...To whom exactly, is irrelevant.
" @SwaggaB0y said:but he kills evil not the innocent. "
"Would the stare work on dante?"Would Dante have had to do something that he actually felt bad about for that to work? Most everything he's done (killing, whatnot) has seemed pretty justifiable to me.
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
"He can make people flop on the ground like a fish out of water lol Basic attacks include hellfire. penance stare..stuff like that...I think it would be a pretty good match hence why I made it lol "Hmmm...... "
" @Sparda said:Okay, so he controls where Hellfire moves? He doesn't just shoot it out or anything? I don't think it would be too difficult to avoid the Hellfire. Since you haven't played DMC, you don't know about Dante's reactions and agility, but I'll try to get some videos in a sec." @Morpheus_ said:GR controls both normal fire (and is also immune to it), and Hellfire, which as I said above is capable of burning both body, but most importantly, tormenting the soul. GR can project Hellfire through various parts of his body, as well. As for the penance stare, I don't believe that he actually needs to be really close. By battle forum rules, they should start facing each other at short distance. If the Rider decides to use it right from the go, I don't think Dante could stop him. But would the Rider do that? Doubtful.Ah, and even if Dante managed to "destroy" GR (break him to pieces), I think he can reform himself without much effort. ""He has complete mastery over Hellfire, which is capable of burning the soul of an opponent. I believe that this ability was capable of hurting an angel, so it should be able to hurt Dante. Also, there is the penance stare, the Rider's most infamous attack. It causes the opponent to re-live every pain he has ever inflicted just by looking at his enemy's eyes. His durability is also at great levels. "Does Hellfire act like normal fire? Or does it move in a different way? Radial, whatnot? To use the Penance Stare, would GR have to get close enough to see into his eyes? If he did, I don't see that happening given how Dante is ridiculously acrobatic and agile. "
He controls where Hellfire is directed, yes. And obviously I agree that BFR is indeed an option. But GR is not a weak character, even h2h. He is class 5 - 10+. Depending on which Zarathos (the demon bided to a human soul that gives GR his powers) host we are using. Dante will more than likely be higher, but I felt like mentioning it. And no, he cannot teleport." @Morpheus_ said:
" @Sparda said:Okay, so he controls where Hellfire moves? He doesn't just shoot it out or anything? I don't think it would be too difficult to avoid the Hellfire. Since you haven't played DMC, you don't know about Dante's reactions and agility, but I'll try to get some videos in a sec. Similarly, while GR might be able to tag Dante with the Penance Stare right away, Dante could use Quicksilver right away too......his reaction times might even be greater so he could do it before Rider could do his finishing move as well. I don't think GR can teleport or anything (or else he would have done that to get to Hulk in WWH instead of driving cross-country or whatever), so I believe it may be possible for Dante to BFR him. I think he's strong enough. GR can reform himself? Hmmmm...... "" @Morpheus_ said:GR controls both normal fire (and is also immune to it), and Hellfire, which as I said above is capable of burning both body, but most importantly, tormenting the soul. GR can project Hellfire through various parts of his body, as well. As for the penance stare, I don't believe that he actually needs to be really close. By battle forum rules, they should start facing each other at short distance. If the Rider decides to use it right from the go, I don't think Dante could stop him. But would the Rider do that? Doubtful.Ah, and even if Dante managed to "destroy" GR (break him to pieces), I think he can reform himself without much effort. ""He has complete mastery over Hellfire, which is capable of burning the soul of an opponent. I believe that this ability was capable of hurting an angel, so it should be able to hurt Dante. Also, there is the penance stare, the Rider's most infamous attack. It causes the opponent to re-live every pain he has ever inflicted just by looking at his enemy's eyes. His durability is also at great levels. "Does Hellfire act like normal fire? Or does it move in a different way? Radial, whatnot? To use the Penance Stare, would GR have to get close enough to see into his eyes? If he did, I don't see that happening given how Dante is ridiculously acrobatic and agile. "
"He controls where Hellfire is directed, yes. And obviously I agree that BFR is indeed an option. But GR is not a weak character, even h2h. He is class 5 - 10+. Depending on which Zarathos (the demon bided to a human soul that gives GR his powers) host we are using. Dante will more than likely be higher, but I felt like mentioning it. And no, he cannot teleport.I think Dante might need to breath......in a gameplay segment in the first DMC there was a part where he needed to go underwater and had to hold his breath. That was the first game, though, and he's gotten significantly more powerful since then.
PS Does Dante need to breath? "
" @Morpheus_ said:Could you determine his power level? For argument's sake."He controls where Hellfire is directed, yes. And obviously I agree that BFR is indeed an option. But GR is not a weak character, even h2h. He is class 5 - 10+. Depending on which Zarathos (the demon bided to a human soul that gives GR his powers) host we are using. Dante will more than likely be higher, but I felt like mentioning it. And no, he cannot teleport.I think Dante might need to breath......in a gameplay segment in the first DMC there was a part where he needed to go underwater and had to hold his breath. That was the first game, though, and he's gotten significantly more powerful since then. When you say "class 5-10+", you mean in hand-to-hand? Really? I didn't know that. If Dante was put on the scale......well.....he is pretty much an anime character so naturally he's probably off the charts. Some of the things he does are physically impossible on probably every level. "
PS Does Dante need to breath? "
" @SwaggaB0y said:
" @Sparda said:I know..but Dante isnt exactly innocent "
" @SwaggaB0y said:but he kills evil not the innocent. "
"Would the stare work on dante?"Would Dante have had to do something that he actually felt bad about for that to work? Most everything he's done (killing, whatnot) has seemed pretty justifiable to me.
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
"He can make people flop on the ground like a fish out of water lol Basic attacks include hellfire. penance stare..stuff like that...I think it would be a pretty good match hence why I made it lol "Hmmm...... "
From the top of my head? Venom, in an awesone display of PIS (something about the symbiote covering Brock's eyes...). Don't remember another, but in truth, I am not a GR expert." @Johnny_Nemesis said:
who hasn't the stare worked on? "" @SwaggaB0y said:
" @Sparda said:I know..but Dante isnt exactly innocent "
" @SwaggaB0y said:but he kills evil not the innocent. "
"Would the stare work on dante?"Would Dante have had to do something that he actually felt bad about for that to work? Most everything he's done (killing, whatnot) has seemed pretty justifiable to me.
@Johnny_Nemesis
said:
"He can make people flop on the ground like a fish out of water lol Basic attacks include hellfire. penance stare..stuff like that...I think it would be a pretty good match hence why I made it lol "Hmmm...... "
On the Marvel scale? I don't know that too well so it's sort of hard. A lot of his abilities are sort of.....undefined. He's strong enough to resist, and support blows from a 200 foot tall statue (that was possessed.....don't ask, long story), and moreoever actually support that statutes full weight if I recall."Could you determine his power level? For argument's sake. "
I believe the answer to this, is yes. That is why Ghost Rider is held in high regard in terms of power." So the stare makes you feel the pain of everyone you inflicted pain on? I just wanna clear this up so I can know in the future. "
"@SwaggaB0y said:
I believe the answer to this, is yes. That is why Ghost Rider is held in high regard in terms of power." So the stare makes you feel the pain of everyone you inflicted pain on? I just wanna clear this up so I can know in the future. "
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" Good one bro. but you know everyones gonna lean on the penence stare for the win. "if they do a battle for GR they should just automatically say no penance stare. the first thing they always say is the penance star wins it no matter how pure the other character is, it doesnt matter if the other person is as pure as superman they would still claim that the penance stare would win it for ghost rider.
" @SwaggaB0y said:
" how can you kill GR? "To my knowledge? You can't. At least not in a conventional way.From what I've heard Dante's best shot is to use his agility and strength to BFR GR. "
" @SwaggaB0y said:It's not inaccurate, however. And to address your example, Superman should be able to BFR the Rider far before the stare comes into action." Good one bro. but you know everyones gonna lean on the penence stare for the win. "if they do a battle for GR they should just automatically say no penance stare. the first thing they always say is the penance star wins it no matter how pure the other character is, it doesnt matter if the other person is as pure as superman they would still claim that the penance stare would win it for ghost rider. "
" @cascadeking09 said:
" @SwaggaB0y said:It's not inaccurate, however. And to address your example, Superman should be able to BFR the Rider far before the stare comes into action. "
" Good one bro. but you know everyones gonna lean on the penence stare for the win. "if they do a battle for GR they should just automatically say no penance stare. the first thing they always say is the penance star wins it no matter how pure the other character is, it doesnt matter if the other person is as pure as superman they would still claim that the penance stare would win it for ghost rider. "
" @Morpheus_ said:It's immediate, but as already stated, GR has to make eye contact and lock his sight on his opponents eyes first.
" @cascadeking09 said:how long does it take for the PS to take effect? "
" @SwaggaB0y said:It's not inaccurate, however. And to address your example, Superman should be able to BFR the Rider far before the stare comes into action. "
" Good one bro. but you know everyones gonna lean on the penence stare for the win. "if they do a battle for GR they should just automatically say no penance stare. the first thing they always say is the penance star wins it no matter how pure the other character is, it doesnt matter if the other person is as pure as superman they would still claim that the penance stare would win it for ghost rider. "
" @cascadeking09 said:it is to say that it would work on an innocent" @SwaggaB0y said:It's not inaccurate, however. And to address your example, Superman should be able to BFR the Rider far before the stare comes into action. "" Good one bro. but you know everyones gonna lean on the penence stare for the win. "if they do a battle for GR they should just automatically say no penance stare. the first thing they always say is the penance star wins it no matter how pure the other character is, it doesnt matter if the other person is as pure as superman they would still claim that the penance stare would win it for ghost rider. "
" Ghost Rider stomps "The A-town stomp maybe.
" @Vance Astro said:You're Canadian..it's ok." @Psyker star said:I don't get it. "" Ghost Rider stomps "The A-town stomp maybe. "
" @Morpheus_ said:Is Dr Strange innocent? To me he is. And it sure worked on him." @cascadeking09 said:it is to say that it would work on an innocent "" @SwaggaB0y said:It's not inaccurate, however. And to address your example, Superman should be able to BFR the Rider far before the stare comes into action. "" Good one bro. but you know everyones gonna lean on the penence stare for the win. "if they do a battle for GR they should just automatically say no penance stare. the first thing they always say is the penance star wins it no matter how pure the other character is, it doesnt matter if the other person is as pure as superman they would still claim that the penance stare would win it for ghost rider. "
" @Morpheus_: thats wats innacurate to me. y would it work on someone that hasnt caused much pain. i never read any ghost rider, but wouldnt it just make him feel sad or depressed cause thats probably the only real pain he's ever caused any body. i think its messed up to let ghost rider even use his stare on anybody other than demons and other evil. "At the time, the Rider's side overwhelmed Blaze's control, and I believe he thought Strange wasn't Strange, but an impostor. When GR realized his mistake, Strange appeared dead. He wasn't, but he was near. Innocent, or not, GR has done it.
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